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    (Original post by admonit)
    There was a knife attack, the place was surrounded by soldiers. In this case civilians are forbidden from approaching the place of crime or the soldiers, who protect the place. The man was not supposed to be near the military car. He initiated this incident. What is not clear?
    Pretty certain that anyone who assaults, resists, or wilfully obstructs any police officer in the due execution of his duty or any person acting in aid of such officer is an offence and in breach of the law.
    The man-handling of the disabled person was wrong per se but the fact that the man concerned was disabled had no bearing on what he had to experience as I'm convinced that the same would have happened to anyone who attempted what the disabled did. He was wrong to approach the officers and the scene and one could argue that the officers were making sure he was away from other unforeseen/possible threats in the area after what had just happened.
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    Leaving aside the wider geopolitical and religous issues and people's varying opinions on them let's call this for what is is; a guy tipping a disabled person out of a wheelchair onto the floor which is ****in disgraceful.
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    (Original post by CourtlyCanter)
    Pretty certain that anyone who assaults, resists, or wilfully obstructs any police officer in the due execution of his duty or any person acting in aid of such officer is an offence and in breach of the law.
    The man-handling of the disabled person was wrong per se and the fact that the man concerned was disabled had no bearing on what he had to experience. I'm convinced that the same would have happened to anyone who attempted what the disabled man had. He was wrong to approach the officers and the scene and one could argue that the officers were making sure he was away from other unforeseen/possible threats in the area after what had just happened.
    Oh I am sure the Israeli was concerned about the man being away from other threats.

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    (Original post by inhuman)
    Oh I am sure the Israeli was concerned about the man being away from other threats.

    lol'd
    Not saying that's what they had in mind when they forcefully removed the crowd from the area but they were indeed trying to get on with their job. To put it simply though the disabled wouldn't have ended up on the floor had he not approached the scene which he shouldn't have in the first place. I'm only talking about this particular incidence here.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    It deserves having its land stolen and its people removed from their homes?
    They lost the israelis won. So yes.
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    (Original post by Napp)
    Are you seriously comparing a couple of oiks who fire what is little more than a firework and very rarely hits anything anyway to those genocidal whackjobs response of carpet bombing them?
    By your logic the ploddies here should start cleansing the lower classes since they on averege will commit more crimes thus 'have it coming'.
    If they don't want to get carpetbombed they shouldn't **** with people with the capability to do that. It's their own stupid fault.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    If they don't want to get carpetbombed they shouldn't **** with people with the capability to do that. It's their own stupid fault.
    It's great to be an ******* from behind a computer screen, huh?

    And ahhhh, just remembered you from the other thread. Not surprised then at your comments here.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    It's great to be an ******* from behind a computer screen, huh?

    And ahhhh, just remembered you from the other thread. Not surprised then at your comments here.
    Oh I am so sorry I disagree with you over a first world nation dealing with terrorists as they should. It's isn't like the Israelis give ample warning to civilians is it?
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Oh I am so sorry I disagree with you over a first world nation dealing with terrorists as they should.
    So should the British government have responded to the Troubles by carpet bombing Northern Ireland?

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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Oh I am so sorry I disagree with you over a first world nation dealing with terrorists as they should. It's isn't like the Israelis give ample warning to civilians is it?
    Yea, terrorist in a wheelchair.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    Yea, terrorist in a wheelchair.
    Palestinians would probably do worse to an Israeli in a wheelchair. Don't underestimate people in wheelchairs either, one ran over my foot once and it really hurt.
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    (Original post by anarchism101)
    So should the British government have responded to the Troubles by carpet bombing Northern Ireland?

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    No, because northern Ireland was part of their country and the death toll was a lot lower.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Palestinians would probably do worse to an Israeli in a wheelchair. Don't underestimate people in wheelchairs either, one ran over my foot once and it really hurt.
    Diddums?
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    (Original post by JamesN88)
    Leaving aside the wider geopolitical and religous issues and people's varying opinions on them let's call this for what is is; a guy tipping a disabled person out of a wheelchair onto the floor which is ****in disgraceful.
    Exactly.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    No, because northern Ireland was part of their country
    So?

    and the death toll was a lot lower.
    Not really, given the difference in regional populations and lengths of conflict.

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    (Original post by anarchism101)
    So?

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    Palestine isn't.

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    Not really, given the difference in regional populations and lengths of conflict.

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    No, 3000 died in northern ireland iirc, ~7000 in Palestine (again, from memory).

    The irish conflict has technically been going on since the 13th century, although those numbers represent since 1921(?).
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Palestine isn't.
    Only as and when Israel declares it to be. When it's a question of settlements, the Israeli government treats as a part of Israel that simply hasn't been fully incorporated yet.

    Also, you know there are international laws governing military occupation?

    No, 3000 died in northern ireland iirc, ~7000 in Palestine (again, from memory).
    And Israel-Palestine has several times the population and has, at least in terms of the current conflicts, been going on 20 years longer.

    The irish conflict has technically been going on since the 13th century, although those numbers represent since 1921(?).
    No, it hasn't. You can argue its roots go back that far, sure, but the conventional start date for the modern conflict in Northern Ireland is 1969, just as many of the roots of WW2 lie in WW1, but we still consider them separate wars.
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    (Original post by anarchism101)
    No, it hasn't. You can argue its roots go back that far, sure, but the conventional start date for the modern conflict in Northern Ireland is 1969, just as many of the roots of WW2 lie in WW1, but we still consider them separate wars.
    I know the troubles go back to 1969, the number I cited I don't think does, I think it goes back further.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    Don't underestimate people in wheelchairs either, one ran over my foot once and it really hurt.
    Damning evidence right there.
    We should abuse all disabled people.
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    (Original post by CourtlyCanter)
    Not saying that's what they had in mind when they forcefully removed the crowd from the area but they were indeed trying to get on with their job. To put it simply though the disabled wouldn't have ended up on the floor had he not approached the scene which he shouldn't have in the first place. I'm only talking about this particular incidence here.
    Poor guy was probably trying to pass or trying to get home.
 
 
 
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