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    (Original post by JRKinder)
    I think Manchester is better than a lot of people give it credit for, but compared with places like LSE then just no, it's nowhere near on that level. I'd put it with the Notts group at highest, but personally I think it's slightly below that but certain universities are quite hard to differentiate between. We have a bit of a problem in the UK where we have so many good unis that those that are otherwise classed as good worldwide are labelled as below average (or at least below the top echelon) at home Suppose it's a nice problem for a country to have though!
    You can't compare a specialist university with a large generalist university. If Manchester was a university focused on Physics it would be seen on par with LSE.
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    (Original post by Vividly clear)
    2017 Complete ranking 24th

    2017 Guardian 38th

    2017 Sunday times 20th
    Because national rankings are focused on student satisfaction and grades, whilst international rankings focus on research output and Nobel laureates.
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    Bristol has a low student satisfaction, which is why they do badly in local tables (especially Guardian, which gives a high priority to student satisfaction), but do well in the QS international table (which doesn't include it at all).

    Student Satisfaction has almost nothing to do with prestige. A low satisfaction score means that generally students won't have as fun an experience that they would elsewhere, but it probably doesn't represent the minority of students who are doing research (aka the main factor of prestige).
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    (Original post by JRKinder)
    Well if a prestigious bank considers a university to be good then surely you must agree that that is an indication that its alumni are just generally desirable? Obviously for some industries the university you attended doesn't matter, but unis like Warwick just tend to attract a lot of very intelligent individuals (usually Oxbridge rejects though lol), admittedly this is concentrated in Maths and Economics. But still, lets just compare it to Bristol/Nottingham. Warwick is undoubtedly better for the aforementioned Maths/Econ, but do Bristol/Notts stand above Warwick for any other particular course? (can't use medicine as Warwick doesn't offer it at undergrad level). I find Nottingham in particular could be a lot better if it just focused on the courses that it is actually good for, rather than being such a large uni that offers a bunch of other courses that drag it down. Its why places like Imperial and LSE shine aside from being in London, they've chosen to specialise and as a consequence are incredible at their respective courses. I'm not saying Notts should do so to the same extent as those, but focusing on a reduced number of courses could be beneficial for it (because I agree the name is well-known still, it just lacks polish imo).

    As for St Andrews it's consistently topped the Scottish league tables with the only competition coming from Edinburgh, but I agree it has got a lot of rep from William and Kate going there. There probably is a case to move this down, I'm not awfully familiar with the ins and outs of Scottish unis though.
    No, not at all. Banks may focus on performance based on specific subjects (even if they don't specify subjects), or because more students from said unis apply (definitely the case of both Warwick and LSE). But if you take these into consideration, why not law firms or consultancy firms and just banks?

    Additionally, you placed Durham and St Andrews above Notts/Bristol - how is St Andrews or Durham more targeted by banks?

    Bristol stands above Warwick for Law, History, English Literature and many of their engineering courses (as abstract as such rankings are), among others. Nottingham just as much - you simply base your rankings on specific subjects.

    I also fail to see how St Andrews competes with Edinburgh... Their research output pales compared to the latter, as do their resources. I never really und the heat foe St Andrews.

    But, to be on point, Warwick has been given much more credit than it actually has precisely because of IB. I have noticed nonetheless that much of its endorsement through forums such as these comes from its students.

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    Just focus on the quality of the course, the university itself in what it can offer you and the prospects of doing that course at that uni.

    Just use rankings as a basic guide, not as the determining factor.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    I also fail to see how St Andrews competes with Edinburgh... Their research output pales compared to the latter, as do their resources. I never really und the heat foe St Andrews.
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    Wow... what a surprise! A university with a third of the number of students and in a town rather than a city has less research output??
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    Prestige and respectability are not the same as league table rankings.
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    (Original post by Capricancer)
    Wow... what a surprise! A university with a third of the number of students and in a town rather than a city has less research output??
    And how does this weaken my point? It has less research output - the reason is immaterial.

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    Bristol is ranked 8th in the UK if you look at the world ranks... not that ranking even matters tbh
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    According to Entry tariff in the past 10years:

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    Warwick/UCL/Edinburgh/Bristol
    Bath/KCL/Glasgow/Manchester
 
 
 
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