Struggling with homophobia in the church.

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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Because it's a terrible idea.
    What about the armenian genocide? It doesnt directly affect her but where is her post on that?
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    (Original post by Robby2312)

    I am no better than Isis? Are you disabled? Wow you really need to wake up. I wasnt even religous a few years ago and I still believed a man is for a woman and a woman for a man. Why are you blaming genocide on religon? Its people who have interpreted it wrongly for their own use so why are you blaming the religious texts?
    Truth is you're probably gay and too ashamed to speak to anyone so you're siding with them. How about you keep your mouth shut aswell as your keeping your sexuality to yourself?
    You're so angry the world hates homosexuals dont you? Dont cry X
    "Are you disabled"? Is this a feeble attempt at outrage? Why would you ask someone this because they don't agree with you? Are you completely incapable of seeing the point of view of another individual without resorting to such tactics as asking if they are disabled?
    It is people like you who perpetuate the "world hates homosexuals" crap. I am quite relieved that you do not intend to bring children into this world, simply because one person who thinks like you is an unhealthy addition to the human race, but to pass on your homophobic crap in the name of some mythical bloke in a frock sitting on a cloud would most certainly be a disaster.
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    (Original post by samantham999)
    What about the armenian genocide? It doesnt directly affect her but where is her post on that?
    So what?
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    (Original post by Robby2312)

    I am no better than Isis? Are you disabled? Wow you really need to wake up. I wasnt even religous a few years ago and I still believed a man is for a woman and a woman for a man. Why are you blaming genocide on religon? Its people who have interpreted it wrongly for their own use so why are you blaming the religious texts?
    Truth is you're probably gay and too ashamed to speak to anyone so you're siding with them. How about you keep your mouth shut aswell as your keeping your sexuality to yourself?
    You're so angry the world hates homosexuals dont you? Dont cry X
    Its not exactly an accident that the majority of muslim governed countries are anti gay and thats because it says so in their holy book.Why would I be ashamed of being gay? Thats like being ashamed of having blue eyes.It makes no sense.I would be ashamed if I lacked the critical thinking skills so as to be unable to deduce the difference between reality and fairy stories.And the world is growing more accepting of gay people not less.It is religion that is slowly dying out.You might think its growing in some places.Dont be fooled this is just the final death throes before its inevitable demise.
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    (Original post by lowza)
    So I go to a pretty liberal, happy clappy pentecostal church which i LOVE. The atmosphere is always so unbelievably positive and accepting and loving so I really thought that I'd found my people and my church going there...until this morning.

    We had a guest preacher (turns out he used to be the pastor there like 10 years ago but I've not been there that long) and he was talking about the second coming of Christ. He was saying about how the world is getting worse and ungodly so it will be soon, and this was due to terrorism and war etc. Then he started talking about the loss of family values and sexual immorality. He never outrightly said homosexuality or being gay but it was SO clear what he was talking about.

    I wasn't happy but understood why he might feel this way, he backed up this with scripture and I won't disagree with God's word but then he started going off on some of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. He kept saying "now young people, listen to this" and then genuinely was suggesting that being gay lead to disease (AIDs), taking drugs and turning evil. I actually couldn't believe what I was hearing and how my lovely, accepting church was allowing him to say these things. It felt like he totally went off reading scripture and was just on a tangent about his own hateful opinions.

    I'm now feeling very torn about whether this church is the right one for me. I believe that God loves us all and as long as we believe and follow the path of Jesus then we will be saved. And I definitely think you can be gay and follow Jesus. I think what has upset me the most is the fact that I've always seen my church as so accepting, I used to go to a really conservative catholic church and nothing this hateful was ever said there so it completely shocked me to come from my current church.

    I don't know whether this is something I have to accept and just continue in my church because apart from today I have loved it. Or do I need to find a new church?

    (I'm sorry this is long, I just needed to get it all out of my system)
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    (Original post by samantham999)
    Loooooooool
    You're so stupid, the question is about the church you cretin
    Naturally I would address the 3 common religions
    You have essentially called him a fool. Let us see what the Bible has to say about that.

    Matthew 5:22
    But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca,’ shall be in danger of the council; but whosoever shall say, ‘Thou fool,’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    You have essentially called him a fool. Let us see what the Bible has to say about that.
    Hahahhahaha I am not christian love
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    (Original post by samantham999)

    Its not exactly an accident that the majority of muslim governed countries are anti gay and thats because it says so in their holy book.Why would I be ashamed of being gay? Thats like being ashamed of having blue eyes.It makes no sense.I would be ashamed if I lacked the critical thinking skills so as to be unable to deduce the difference between reality and fairy stories.And the world is growing more accepting of gay people not less.It is religion that is slowly dying out.You might think its growing in some places.Dont be fooled this is just the final death throes before its inevitable demise.
    If the world is growing accepting of more gays go an eff men then? Why are you still justifying your odd sexual desires?
    No one honestly gives a crap about what gay people do in the bedroom they just find it disgusting and comment

    Btw why does every girl lesbian cut her hair extremely short and wear tomboy clothes?
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    (Original post by samantham999)
    Hahahhahaha I am not christian love
    Everyone knows what you are. You have shown youself up here for what you are. For someone who doesn't care what people do in their bedroom, you're certainly making a lot of noise about it.
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    (Original post by Robby2312)

    If the world is growing accepting of more gays go an eff men then? Why are you still justifying your odd sexual desires?
    No one honestly gives a crap about what gay people do in the bedroom they just find it disgusting and comment

    Btw why does every girl lesbian cut her hair extremely short and wear tomboy clothes?
    I'll ask my daughter. She's a lesbian.
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    (Original post by Seamus123)
    Everyone knows what you are. You have shown youself up here for what you are. For someone who doesn't care what people do in their bedroom, you're certainly making a lot of noise about it.
    Ah the bedroom part makes me vomit and I was making a lot of noise because OP randomly begun this thread
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    (Original post by Robby2312)

    If the world is growing accepting of more gays go an eff men then? Why are you still justifying your odd sexual desires?
    No one honestly gives a crap about what gay people do in the bedroom they just find it disgusting and comment

    Btw why does every girl lesbian cut her hair extremely short and wear tomboy clothes?
    Perfect example why humanity is doomed to destroy itself one day.
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    (Original post by samantham999)
    Ah the bedroom part makes me vomit and I was making a lot of noise because OP randomly begun this thread
    The OP has a perfect right to start a thread. If you're not happy with the content, you're under no obligation to respond.
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    (Original post by lowza)
    So I go to a pretty liberal, happy clappy pentecostal church which i LOVE. The atmosphere is always so unbelievably positive and accepting and loving so I really thought that I'd found my people and my church going there...until this morning.

    We had a guest preacher (turns out he used to be the pastor there like 10 years ago but I've not been there that long) and he was talking about the second coming of Christ. He was saying about how the world is getting worse and ungodly so it will be soon, and this was due to terrorism and war etc. Then he started talking about the loss of family values and sexual immorality. He never outrightly said homosexuality or being gay but it was SO clear what he was talking about.

    I wasn't happy but understood why he might feel this way, he backed up this with scripture and I won't disagree with God's word but then he started going off on some of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. He kept saying "now young people, listen to this" and then genuinely was suggesting that being gay lead to disease (AIDs), taking drugs and turning evil. I actually couldn't believe what I was hearing and how my lovely, accepting church was allowing him to say these things. It felt like he totally went off reading scripture and was just on a tangent about his own hateful opinions.

    I'm now feeling very torn about whether this church is the right one for me. I believe that God loves us all and as long as we believe and follow the path of Jesus then we will be saved. And I definitely think you can be gay and follow Jesus. I think what has upset me the most is the fact that I've always seen my church as so accepting, I used to go to a really conservative catholic church and nothing this hateful was ever said there so it completely shocked me to come from my current church.

    I don't know whether this is something I have to accept and just continue in my church because apart from today I have loved it. Or do I need to find a new church?

    (I'm sorry this is long, I just needed to get it all out of my system)
    I think you should become a Mormon, or a scientologist, I'm both and Xenu loves it.
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    (Original post by Robby2312)

    If the world is growing accepting of more gays go an eff men then? Why are you still justifying your odd sexual desires?
    No one honestly gives a crap about what gay people do in the bedroom they just find it disgusting and comment

    Btw why does every girl lesbian cut her hair extremely short and wear tomboy clothes?
    If no-one gave a crap about what they do then why has it been illegal for decades?You clearly do give a crap because you commented calling people sick in the head.Personally I dont think it matters whether people have sex with boys or girls.In a 100 years you'll be dead,I will be dead and in 1000 years no-one will even remember my name.In a billion years the human race will probably be extinct.No sky daddy sorry.Just like there is no doggy heaven.You die.Thats it.Just nothingness for the rest of forever.Why does it matter if someone wants to **** guys as you put it? They may as well just do what they want with their own lives. And I never actually said I was gay you just assumed that.
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    (Original post by samantham999)
    OP if you're not gay or homosexual why did you even create this thread?
    If people didn't protest, question or try to help matters which did not apply to themselves, the world would be a much worse place. People would not give to charity nor have helped solved social issues. It is best summed up by the famous poem:


    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—
    and there was no one left to speak for me.
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    (Original post by Toughtee)
    If people didn't protest, question or try to help matters which did not apply to themselves, the world would be a much worse place. People would not give to charity nor have helped solved social issues. It is best summed up by the famous poem:

    Shut up X
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    (Original post by samantham999)

    If no-one gave a crap about what they do then why has it been illegal for decades?You clearly do give a crap because you commented calling people sick in the head.Personally I dont think it matters whether people have sex with boys or girls.In a 100 years you'll be dead,I will be dead and in 1000 years no-one will even remember my name.In a billion years the human race will probably be extinct.No sky daddy sorry.Just like there is no doggy heaven.You die.Thats it.Just nothingness for the rest of forever.Why does it matter if someone wants to **** guys as you put it? They may as well just do what they want with their own lives. And I never actually said I was gay you just assumed that.
    Yes we will all die soon, and then there will come a time where homosexuals will burn in hell but lets just leave it here X
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    (Original post by Toughtee)
    If people didn't protest, question or try to help matters which did not apply to themselves, the world would be a much worse place. People would not give to charity nor have helped solved social issues. It is best summed up by the famous poem:

    I have this on my wall at home. It is very relevant here.
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    (Original post by samantham999)
    Shut up X
    Aahh you've convinced me! I hate gays now!*

    *Warning, contains sarcasm.
 
 
 
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