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    No one said they'd try to block it (no one of influence at least). You seem to forget that the difference was just 4% - by no means significant enough to allow Leave do whatever they want. Hence Parliament must be able to debate on proposed terms.

    The Court can only view matters from a legal perspective - not political. That's why -among other things of course- Britain's judiciary is one of the most respected, influential around the world. I can't fathom how people want to reduce that and support idiotic leaflets saying judges are the enemies of the people. Truly incomprehensible.
    I said I hoped they did not that they should if they feel it isn't within the law. The court should never be political... doesn't mean I can't hope for a specific outcome.

    As for parliament having a say - yes they should - but the lib dems for example demanding another vote and saying they will block article 50 if they don't get it is beyond my understanding. Once it's triggered we have two years. It's just an excuse to force us into staying rather then accepting we are leaving(in any form that takes). They will frustrate the process and try to say the terms are so poor we couldn't leave. It's ignoring democracy or, at the very least, the promise parliament made when it voted (6-1) for the referendum.

    I want to leave the EU and am willing to leave the single market but even I don't want the tories to have a blank check. It's why I worry an election is coming. The tories would get a massive majority and be given that blank check.It's the worst outcome I can think of.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ering-article/
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    Though I must be cheeky and say the Germans thought they could control Hitler when they made him Chancellor in 1933
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    poorer? what do you mean by this; less money put into it or overal grade ?
    Overall quality.

    Road maintenance quality is low by western European standards. Correspondingly whilst the highest speed limits are similar, average speed limits in the USA are significantly lower. That is important when it comes to rejuvenating depressed towns. It reduces the sensible commuting range.

    Although the US pours millions of dollars every year into an almost irrelevant long distance train service, few American cities have viable metro systems, commuter rail networks and inter-urban rail systems.

    US airports are virtually all municipally owned, and have poor facilities by international standards. In international ratings the top US airport (Denver) is 28th. Immigration lines at the country's principal international gateway, JFK, have been legendary for 40 years. There are an inadequate number of security lines at most airports and waiting times are getting longer, yet the USA still does not reconcile domestic passengers and their checked baggage. Most of the world is moving to a model of privately owned airports (China is the latest to do so); but the USA is still wedded to regional local government owned monopolies.

    There are insufficient incentives to redevelop urban property in many cities leading to a doughnut effect where downtown cores spiral downwards and developers build on edge of town greenfield sites. This phenomenon has been known for 30-40 years yet little has been down to address this through zoning, municipal taxes etc.

    Ultimately Trump is a property and hotel man and this is an area he understands; bringing wealth (and employing people) by investment in physical infrastructure.

    Bear in mind incoming tourists are exports (and along with higher education, one of the two biggest drivers in western countries of economic regeneration in post industrial areas), the USA (with the exception of Florida) massively underperforms. The USA gets about 30,000,000 non-Canadian, non-Mexican travellers a year. Over a third of these visit Florida. With one ninth of the population of the USA (and frankly much less to see and do), Canada gets 5,000,000 non-American visitors a year.
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    People actually watch that?
    I heard there was an average low attention span on this forum.
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    I heard there was an average low attention span on this forum.
    Yea, this isn't the place for conceited hacks.
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    Overall quality.

    Road maintenance quality is low by western European standards. Correspondingly whilst the highest speed limits are similar, average speed limits in the USA are significantly lower. That is important when it comes to rejuvenating depressed towns. It reduces the sensible commuting range.
    Woe. roads are done by the state and local community - counties. Some times federal money is put into it but quality is based on the people for sure. Been to a few states myself - the worst is probably California. Otherwise, not everywhere is same quality on that.

    Plus, I don't see how speed suggests poor quality. the speed limits around here are set for safety. Regardless to how fast someone goes, the highways near San Jose California will always get clogged up. Overall quantity of vehicles should be considered.

    Although the US pours millions of dollars every year into an almost irrelevant long distance train service, few American cities have viable metro systems, commuter rail networks and inter-urban rail systems.

    US airports are virtually all municipally owned, and have poor facilities by international standards. In international ratings the top US airport (Denver) is 28th. Immigration lines at the country's principal international gateway, JFK, have been legendary for 40 years. There are an inadequate number of security lines at most airports and waiting times are getting longer, yet the USA still does not reconcile domestic passengers and their checked baggage. Most of the world is moving to a model of privately owned airports (China is the latest to do so); but the USA is still wedded to regional local government owned monopolies.

    There are insufficient incentives to redevelop urban property in many cities leading to a doughnut effect where downtown cores spiral downwards and developers build on edge of town greenfield sites. This phenomenon has been known for 30-40 years yet little has been down to address this through zoning, municipal taxes etc.

    Ultimately Trump is a property and hotel man and this is an area he understands; bringing wealth (and employing people) by investment in physical infrastructure.

    Bear in mind incoming tourists are exports (and along with higher education, one of the two biggest drivers in western countries of economic regeneration in post industrial areas), the USA (with the exception of Florida) massively underperforms. The USA gets about 30,000,000 non-Canadian, non-Mexican travellers a year. Over a third of these visit Florida. With one ninth of the population of the USA (and frankly much less to see and do), Canada gets 5,000,000 non-American visitors a year.

    Not every city needs rail system. Bus is dependent on usage. What is population and what is percentage of population using bus system. If usage is inadequate, why have it? Again this seems to be based more on quantity rather quality.

    The long distance train service sounds like speed train in california - can't control minds of the stupid.

    Airports? I'll take your word on that. I don't fly much. In terms of wait times - more people. longer lines.

    I would agree to the underdeveloped down town. But incentives go so far. Even where incentives exist, troubles have been looming because of crime or other unpleasantness.
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    Woe. roads are done by the state and local community - counties. Some times federal money is put into it but quality is based on the people for sure. Been to a few states myself - the worst is probably California. Otherwise, not everywhere is same quality on that.

    Plus, I don't see how speed suggests poor quality. the speed limits around here are set for safety. Regardless to how fast someone goes, the highways near San Jose California will always get clogged up. Overall quantity of vehicles should be considered.




    Not every city needs rail system. Bus is dependent on usage. What is population and what is percentage of population using bus system. If usage is inadequate, why have it? Again this seems to be based more on quantity rather quality.

    The long distance train service sounds like speed train in california - can't control minds of the stupid.

    Airports? I'll take your word on that. I don't fly much. In terms of wait times - more people. longer lines.

    I would agree to the underdeveloped down town. But incentives go so far. Even where incentives exist, troubles have been looming because of crime or other unpleasantness.
    I raise you telephone and internet. It is incredible common for more rural places in America to lose signal or even electricity, because the supply chain is old, really old, and a simple storm can **** it over.

    America may be one of the most advanced countries, but there are many people missing out on that. A large proportion of schoolkids is on food stamps, etc.
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    It doesn't really matter how many people voted for him or Clinton. It doesn't matter the amount. He won the electoral vote.
 
 
 
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