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    Originally Posted by dita_parlo
    Well I have been eating only about 400 cals a day for the past week because of binging on cocaine with my boyfriend and I have lost 3lbs but now I am back to eating normally, I guess I will put it all back on again. Although I am back at the gym so that may subsidise some of the weight gain. Eating 400 cals a day is not sustainable AT ALL and will cause her to put weight on when she starts eating again. Just gym it instead and she will get a nice, toned figure


    lindsay lohan is that you?
    LOL
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    (Original post by kimoso)
    How ridiculous!! Have you ever actually BEEN on a 400 cal a day diet? You lose between 0.5-1.5lbs a day. I'm not condoning it but saying you'll GAIN weight is just completely untrue.
    Of course no-one would gain weight on a 400 cal diet, but you would only lose 1.5 lbs a day on that diet if you simultaneously burned off 4850 calories per day. Which is improbable number for anyone, let alone a young woman.
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    ^^^ You could well lose water weight since most food contains water and she is eating less.
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    Plus its not just the amount lost, but the type of tissue lost, e.g. body has to turn to body tissues for most of its energy since its not provided in the diet, it won't just go for the fat tissue, but proteins in organs etc too.
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    I don't understand how somebody at a size 6 would want to lose weight! Surely she must have an eating disorder if she is basically starving herself and overexercising.

    I recommend getting her some help.
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    The problem is the person may not be ready to accept help, and by pushing them into getting help might actually make them worse. This has to be her decision, she has to realise the damage her behaviour is causing, and find the courage to ask for help. I think its about just been there for her, knowing she has support should she need it. As mentioned before in the thread, there are support groups out there which may be good to find out about.
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    (Original post by ~Kirsty~)
    The problem is the person may not be ready to accept help, and by pushing them into getting help might actually make them worse. This has to be her decision, she has to realise the damage her behaviour is causing, and find the courage to ask for help. I think its about just been there for her, knowing she has support should she need it. As mentioned before in the thread, there are support groups out there which may be good to find out about.
    Good advice ;yes;

    Also if she becomes severely underweight she will be sectioned against her will. I believe the average weight for sectioning is 4 stone.
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    (Original post by Tufts)
    Good advice ;yes;

    Also if she becomes severely underweight she will be sectioned against her will. I believe the average weight for sectioning is 4 stone.
    An Adult weighing four stone, crazy.
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    (Original post by Artemidoros)
    An Adult weighing four stone, crazy.
    Indeed. Hence the sectioning against will.
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    I wonder how many feeding tubes get pulled out, when they get sectioned though? Its a hard situation.
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    Question: What is a dietitian and how does it differ from a nutritionist?
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    she's said this before in a thread, they overlap a bit I think she said. Nutritionist is someone who just kinda educates a person who is healthy how to eat well but a dietician is more focused on helping people who have been sick get better and not get unwell again!
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    (Original post by burningnun)
    Question: What is a dietitian and how does it differ from a nutritionist?
    a nutritionist is not an expert that can give u diets. he/she is only able to tell u the correct food to eat and he/she can tell u in a general way what to avoid eating and how many hours a day u must exercise.

    a dietitian is an expert who can give u diets. he/she is one level above nutritionist cz he/she will tell u to do blood analysis to see sugar/cholesterol/iron levels before u go on a diet. there r clinical dietitians that r even better than just dietitians and they r the ones that can heal eating disorders.
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    These nuts that she's eating-Macadamia nuts by any chance? It sounds like she's doing an (even more extreme-the diet is already pretty extreme) version of the kekwick diet which is basically eating 1000 cals of macadamia nuts a day (which is something ridiculous like 15 nuts or 1000 cals of anything with 90% of kcals coming from fat) to maintain ketosis. I don't know much about it, except that the only reason I've heard about it was when I stumbled across a pro-anorexia site by mistake so it's possible she may be visiting these sites. It certainly sounds like she has/is developing a serious problem. Is there any way you could tell her parents? She probably won't like you for it much at first but if she won't listen to you herself you may not have much choice.
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    (Original post by Alex_biomeds)
    a nutritionist is not an expert that can give u diets. he/she is only able to tell u the correct food to eat and he/she can tell u in a general way what to avoid eating and how many hours a day u must exercise.

    a dietitian is an expert who can give u diets. he/she is one level above nutritionist cz he/she will tell u to do blood analysis to see sugar/cholesterol/iron levels before u go on a diet. there r clinical dietitians that r even better than just dietitians and they r the ones that can heal eating disorders.
    Theres 2 types of dietitians?

    We do NOT have to see blood analysis prior to diets. It depends on the condition - e.g. for a normal weight loss diet we wouldn't necessarily request it but go on anthropometry instead (ie measurements). For a special medical condition such as diabetes, PKU, coeliac, etc we would want to see blood test results to confirm diagnosis, and in some cases see how the patient is managing the diet. In this situation you can only work with what the patient would allow, if there are blood test resutls available then its a bonus, but not a necessary.

    Dietitian is a protected term, so all detitians are approved by the health professions council, and are basically more clinical, however dietitians can work in clinical environments such as hospitals or out in the community, or even in research - its such a varied job. There are also lots of different specialisms including obesity, renal, eating disordrs, cardiac, stroke, paediatrics, cancer, diabetes, PKU, HIV/AIDS etc, so once your qualified you can choose to work in the area you want to work in. I must admit a huge proportion of the work, believe it or not, is in the care of the elderly.

    The basic principle though, is a nutritionist is more to do with promoting health via diet and lifestyle, and can be just as much an expert as a dietitian. It would not be fair to say we are a level above a nutritionist - we just focus on different things. At the end of the day a nutritionist 'should' have a degree in nutrition which is just as difficult as a dietetic degree.

    As a dietitian i would focus more on ill people, than healthy. I help treat the poorly, and a nutritionist tries to prevent them getting sick in the first place.

    In this situation, however, a specialised eating disorders dietitian would probably be the person to see, not a nutritionist.
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    ^^ i think u understood what i wrote.
    in cyprus and greece your first diploma is for nutritionists, the second (master/MBA) is for dietitians and the third (PHD) is for clinical dietitians :rolleyes: that's why i wrote that a dietitian is above nutritionists..
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    Its different here. Nutriton and dietetic degrees are the same level (BSc hons OR MSc) Phd is something you can do when your more specialised but is not essential.
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    (Original post by ~Kirsty~)
    Its different here. Nutriton and dietetic degrees are the same level (BSc hons OR MSc) Phd is something you can do when your more specialised but is not essential.
    Really?? thx for the info!
 
 
 
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