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    We've got to remember that although they'll have strict criteria for scoring the applications, they're probably very different to this old document. If they just wanted you to prove you met each point of the PS, they wouldn't be using these specific questions. There'll be some crossover, but they're marking how we answer these questions, not how many points we can shoehorn in.
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    (Original post by librarygirl)
    I imagine the majority of it comes from the statements, but pretty sure details of any placements or relevant employment will count towards marks on team work, specific lab skills, study-work balance etc.
    I don't think they will try to fish out information from your employment/placement description. For sure not about your interpersonal skills. You might have said that your role was to maintain lab equipment but an actual proof would come from an interview.
    As for the published work, it is much easier /common to publish if you are e.g. an immunologist than audiologist so I think for some specialisms there will be a much higher number of applicants with published work than for the other specialisms.
    Also if you have a PhD, your thesis is a published work and usually you will also have one or more papers in a peer reviewed journal. Nevertheless a lot of people who get to STP are straight after their undergrad so obviously having a paper is not that important.
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    Hey guys, I've been reading up on the posts in this thread and also trying to figure out when we will hear back! I'm currently in NHS employment as a healthcare science support worker (HCSSW) and I have previously applied for the STP once. I was longlisted last time and this current application cycle, but was unsuccessful with shortlisting last time so I have my fingers crossed for this time, as I now have experience to show! My first application was straight out of uni, so it's tough for new graduates too... I have actually accepted a new post as a trainee BMS but I am also holding out for the possibility of getting on the STP. Oh and I have picked specialisms in biochemistry and haematology/transfusion, with most of my experience in biochemistry.

    On the Applicant Guidance I have found this:
    "For 2016, shortlisting for all specialisms will take place from Thursday 18th February 2016 toFriday 11th March 2016" so we should be hearing back by 21st at the latest?

    Good luck everyone!
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    (Original post by emilyphoto)
    I have actually accepted a new post as a trainee BMS but I am also holding out for the possibility of getting on the STP.
    I hear trainee BMS posts are like gold dust these days? I would almost accept that as an alternative to STP if I could find one! Then again there's no dedicated genomics ones...

    (Original post by emilyphoto)
    On the Applicant Guidance I have found this:
    "For 2016, shortlisting for all specialisms will take place from Thursday 18th February 2016 toFriday 11th March 2016" so we should be hearing back by 21st at the latest?
    I knew I had read that somewhere, the 11th! Yeah I guess it makes sense for them to finish around that time and then use the next week to taunt us/assign everyone an order on the sliding scale of doom.
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    (Original post by SlipperyJohn)
    I hear trainee BMS posts are like gold dust these days? I would almost accept that as an alternative to STP if I could find one! Then again there's no dedicated genomics ones...

    I knew I had read that somewhere, the 11th! Yeah I guess it makes sense for them to finish around that time and then use the next week to taunt us/assign everyone an order on the sliding scale of doom.
    They are pretty difficult to find, luckily the trust I'm working at currently has had a few band 5 BMS posts come up so I missed out on them in my department but I'm moving over to immunology! I have accepted the post but still waiting to see if I get an interview for STP, it would be a quicker route up the ladder!

    So unfair really, if they decide on the shortlist then they should announce it as soon as they know

    What's your background? Hope you're not my competition
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    (Original post by emilyphoto)
    What's your background? Hope you're not my competition
    I doubt I will get an interview so don't worry about that but my background for the most part has been in genotyping knock out clones for a research pipeline.
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    When I mentioned to my parents about the shortlisting, they said in the most sceptical tone ever "Well if it's as hard as you say it is, then maybe you should just.....what have you got to offer others don't?"

    Some parents would say "I believe you're worth shortlisting" and some of my friends have kindly said they would pray that I get in. But not my folks. Down to earth, ALWAYS. Even if that means having no faith in my capabilities XD
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    (Original post by SlipperyJohn)
    I doubt I will get an interview so don't worry about that but my background for the most part has been in genotyping knock out clones for a research pipeline.
    Why do you doubt your chance at interview? Sounds like you've got a lot of specialist experience!

    (Original post by librarygirl)
    When I mentioned to my parents about the shortlisting, they said in the most sceptical tone ever "Well if it's as hard as you say it is, then maybe you should just.....what have you got to offer others don't?"Some parents would say "I believe you're worth shortlisting" and some of my friends have kindly said they would pray that I get in. But not my folks. Down to earth, ALWAYS. Even if that means having no faith in my capabilities XD
    Haahaha my parents have no idea what I'm talking about and they're always just asking how I've done, but as always, they're disappointed in me constantly :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by emilyphoto)
    Why do you doubt your chance at interview? Sounds like you've got a lot of specialist experience!
    Protective pessimism mostly. What is your background? You are going for the Genomics strand also or?
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    Hi guys,

    Just wondered if you guys have a back up plan in case this doesn't work out? I hate to think negatively but considering how competitive this programme is, it has crossed my mind.

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    (Original post by Semi-101)
    Hi guys,

    Just wondered if you guys have a back up plan in case this doesn't work out? I hate to think negatively but considering how competitive this programme is, it has crossed my mind.

    X
    Yeah, I'm trying to be optimistic, but realistically speaking the odds are not in my favor at all I've got a Plan B and a Plan C and...yeah, hopefully won't need Plan D haha. But if it doesn't work out with the STP this year, I'll be looking (already have) at other Genetics-related jobs with the NHS/private clinics so I can get more experience and try again next year...to be honest I also have interest in Immunology/Hislology/Oncology so anything in these areas would be great. As a back-up of the back-up I'm considering industry as a temporary thing until I get something with the NHS as for the long run I can picture myself only in a hospital/clinical setting, don't think I have what's needed to progress in industry *shrug*.

    What about you?
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    (Original post by Semi-101)
    Hi guys,

    Just wondered if you guys have a back up plan in case this doesn't work out? I hate to think negatively but considering how competitive this programme is, it has crossed my mind.

    X
    I have a job interview with a company on 17th March and actively looking for others. That should answer your question.
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    (Original post by Semi-101)
    Hi guys,

    Just wondered if you guys have a back up plan in case this doesn't work out? I hate to think negatively but considering how competitive this programme is, it has crossed my mind.

    X
    Great question. Personally I am already looking at applying for jobs with research groups that are closely linked to a hospital genomics laboratory. Not quite what I see myself doing long term but taking steps to do anything to improve my skills and perhaps give me a better chance for STP next year.

    IMHO If you're not learning/not improving your skills in a transferable way the best thing to do is move over to something that will give you those skills.

    I realise this is what I want to do so I'm in it until it happens.
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    (Original post by SlipperyJohn)
    Protective pessimism mostly. What is your background? You are going for the Genomics strand also or?
    Aha I totally feel the same! Prepare for the worst, then you're never disappointed?

    Nope I'm going for biochemistry and haematology/transfusion!
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    (Original post by Semi-101)
    Hi guys,

    Just wondered if you guys have a back up plan in case this doesn't work out? I hate to think negatively but considering how competitive this programme is, it has crossed my mind.

    X
    I'm just going into a trainee BMS post so that's my current and backup plan for the moment! How about you?
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    (Original post by Semi-101)
    Hi guys,

    Just wondered if you guys have a back up plan in case this doesn't work out? I hate to think negatively but considering how competitive this programme is, it has crossed my mind.

    X
    I'm lined up to study a MSc as I'm only just graduating
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    The more I think about it, the less likely it seems. It could be any number of marks' difference which means you don't get shortlisted. Plus I think my ears will fall off if I hear once more "it's so competitive (basically don't bother hoping)"
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    well as it is really competitive and there are very few spaces aaaand because we dont no how many people have applied for our specialty i dont think it is pessimistic to make a backup plan or two.. its actually the wiser approach bec u dont wana find yourself high and dry with nothing to do..
    All that said (I applied for genomic counselling and genomics) i love science (genetics lets be honest) so much but im a people person and need to be in a job i find highly stimulating.. hence i dont think i could get a lab job to sit it out til next STP cycle or something like that.. patience is not my strong point!!
    So i am thinking of
    - science patent law (my uni gave us a speech about that .. sounds lucrative but oh so boring) or other areas of law but dnt rly wana go thru alot more studying
    - going to work in a totally different field (goodbye genetics) that i can use my people skills and management and energy for - any ideas?!
    - i have been involved in charity work and i may go do this professionally like liasing between patients and hospitals etc but would ideally prefer a career where i am advancing my scientific status
    - postgrad medicine .. always been a secret dream but i missed the deadlines last year :/ i would consider this..
    - a masters but i would get a job as well
    - i am considering a PhD and applied to some but none were successful slash my references didnt send in in time would keep applying even though i dont really want to spend 4 years in research bu ti prefer it to a lab job for 4 years - this way i will be much more qualified.
    Any ideas welcome!
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    I have no back up plan whatsoever. I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than do another year of post-doc... So basically, I have to get into STP!!!
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    (Original post by nech)
    - going to work in a totally different field (goodbye genetics) that i can use my people skills and management and energy for - any ideas?!
    Ever thought about sales? Scientific of course. As far as I know you basically have to have great people/networking skills to talk to people about their work and provide them with your products/solutions.
 
 
 
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