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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    I believe it was fair. Others feel it was too harsh or too lenient. This seems like an agreeable balance.
    However, the rule I broke was in place to stop people from using another account to advantage them, when I made a new account it was only to my disadvantage, there was no intention of ever using it to advantage the other account which was abandoned.

    So, not only did I not get the fresh start, not only did I give up my seat, not only did I give up a year's achievements, I also couldn't stand in the GE and have been banned from being an MP (just rubs salt in the wounds)
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    However, the rule I broke was in place to stop people from using another account to advantage them, when I made a new account it was only to my disadvantage, there was no intention of ever using it to advantage the other account which was abandoned.

    So, not only did I not get the fresh start, not only did I give up my seat, not only did I give up a year's achievements, I also couldn't stand in the GE and have been banned from being an MP (just rubs salt in the wounds)
    I'd rebut that point, but the debate on the issue has already concluded.
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    (Original post by BenC1997)
    Nat Libs 'til I die!
    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Disgraceful kidding!
    It is disgraceful It's left or right, we can't have any of these useless, wishy-washy, middle-of-the-road centrists!

    (Original post by BenC1997)
    Yes, a minority view admittedly, but thanks I suppose.

    I'm not really up to date with who's who here, which party are you running for?
    He was a Socialist-Green dual member, then joined Labour and was Chancellor last term for a bit, then was suspended for having a dupe and joined the Conservatives.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    It is disgraceful It's left or right, we can't have any of these useless, wishy-washy, middle-of-the-road centrists!



    He was a Socialist-Green dual member, then joined Labour and was Chancellor last term for a bit, then was suspended for having a dupe and joined the Conservatives.
    Well, it's right, because, well... we're right
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    It is disgraceful It's left or right, we can't have any of these useless, wishy-washy, middle-of-the-road centrists!



    He was a Socialist-Green dual member, then joined Labour and was Chancellor last term for a bit, then was suspended for having a dupe and joined the Conservatives.
    HE has not joined, he merely endorses.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)

    He was a Socialist-Green dual member, then joined Labour and was Chancellor last term for a bit, then was suspended for having a dupe and joined the Conservatives.
    That's very much off. I wasn't suspended for having a dupe, in fact, I wasn't at all punished for having a dupe. I also haven't joined the Tories.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    That's very much off. I wasn't suspended for having a dupe, in fact, I wasn't at all punished for having a dupe. I also haven't joined the Tories.
    Then why have you been suspended?
    You openly endorse them, which led to me assuming you had joined.

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    HE has not joined, he merely endorses.
    Right.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    Then why have you been suspended?
    You openly endorse them, which led to me assuming you had joined.
    I was suspending for acting against the spirit of the rules.

    I endorse them as the second best option to voting for myself
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I was suspending for acting against the spirit of the rules.

    I endorse them as the second best option to voting for myself
    What written down rule did you break??
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I was suspending for acting against the spirit of the rules.
    also duping

    fwiw I wouldn't have penalised you considering the extent to which the accounts interacted.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    What written down rule did you break??
    "one person, one account" - which was a moderation rule, not an MHoC one, and one that I broke merely to have a fresh start.

    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    also duping

    fwiw I wouldn't have penalised you considering the extent to which the accounts interacted.
    I understand why Ray did what he did, and I respect why he did it, I just think it was over the top when you consider that my intentions were sincere and innocent.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    "one person, one account" - which was a moderation rule, not an MHoC one, and one that I broke merely to have a fresh start.



    I understand why Ray did what he did, and I respect why he did it, I just think it was over the top when you consider that my intentions were sincere and innocent.
    Where's that written out of interest?

    I'm split on the decision to be honest... depending on what mood I'm in, sometimes I agree, sometimes I think it was too harsh, sometimes too lenient.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Where's that written out of interest?

    I'm split on the decision to be honest... depending on what mood I'm in, sometimes I agree, sometimes I think it was too harsh, sometimes too lenient.
    I don't even know.

    To make it clear, I didn't have to reveal who I was previously, by doing (what I believed to be) the right thing and tell the truth, it led to me being punished. That's particularly why I believe it to be so unfair.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I don't even know.

    To make it clear, I didn't have to reveal who I was previously, by doing (what I believed to be) the right thing and tell the truth, it led to me being punished. That's particularly why I believe it to be so unfair.
    Mmm, I'd like to see the rule, or is it just convention, like the rule Labour broke and got no punishment for?

    Yeh, but lets be honest, you could barely keep it under wraps However non-sensical the sentence was, you just shouldn't have interacted with your other account, and then it wouldn't have been a problem... Out of interest, do you ever use your old account, not for MHoC, just in general...?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Mmm, I'd like to see the rule, or is it just convention, like the rule Labour broke and got no punishment for?

    Yeh, but lets be honest, you could barely keep it under wraps However non-sensical the sentence was, you just shouldn't have interacted with your other account, and then it wouldn't have been a problem... Out of interest, do you ever use your old account, not for MHoC, just in general...?
    I'm not too sure, but it wasn't in the constitution or the GD, so I didn't know of it.

    I believe it was leaked that I was a dupe and that spread through the house. The decision that I wouldn't have to reveal who I was before was made after this and I could have easily have let it be that way. Should I have joined the tories (which was my intention) I would have told L_p prior to the decision that I was who I was, and I would have also let Saracen's Fez know too.


    No, after the resignation it'd been abandoned and that was when I started getting properly involved with this one. This account I use both in the MHoC and in the rest of TSR.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I'm not too sure, but it wasn't in the constitution or the GD, so I didn't know of it.
    Is it even written down.... who knows!!!

    I believe it was leaked that I was a dupe and that spread through the house. The decision that I wouldn't have to reveal who I was before was made after this and I could have easily have let it be that way. Should I have joined the tories (which was my intention) I would have told L_p prior to the decision that I was who I was, and I would have also let Saracen's Fez know too.
    I think it was less that it was leaked, but more that we knew something was up, and pretty much the most excitement around here is duping, so it was hardly a stretch. In any case, we run dupe checks for new members, so even if you hadn't said anything, we would've found out.

    No, after the resignation it'd been abandoned and that was when I started getting properly involved with this one. This account I use both in the MHoC and in the rest of TSR.
    Fairs.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Mmm, I'd like to see the rule, or is it just convention, like the rule Labour broke and got no punishment for?
    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I'm not too sure, but it wasn't in the constitution or the GD, so I didn't know of it.
    It's hidden away here.

    Really the guidelines ought to be a bit more prominent.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    It's hidden away here.

    Really the guidelines ought to be a bit more prominent.
    Ahh it is there!
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Shall we have a joint Socialist-Tory Bill on this?
    No we bloody well won't you traitor. Next thing you'll be suggesting the bureaucratic collectivisation of agriculture and tricking me into not attending SLF's funeral!

    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Haha, I wouldn't have a problem with that Should definitely get rid of Sunday trading laws!
    I would. I like Sunday trading laws.
    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Oh, excellent! That ConSoc effort will have to wait then...

    And I'll be making sure it waits.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    No we bloody well won't you traitor. Next thing you'll be suggesting the bureaucratic collectivisation of agriculture and tricking me into not attending SLF's funeral!



    I would. I like Sunday trading laws.



    And I'll be making sure it waits.
    That sucks for you then, since Labour already beat us to it xD
 
 
 
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