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    (Original post by ThisLittlePiggy)
    Oh Goodness, Skyrim is dominating my life! Brilliant game ... not so brilliant for deadlines and in the fight against the Christmas podge.

    Belated Merry Christmas you bunch of champions.
    Hahaha. I'l start Skyrim after I finish BF3 and MW3
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    Oh Goodness, Skyrim is dominating my life! Brilliant game ... not so brilliant for deadlines and in the fight against the Christmas podge.

    Belated Merry Christmas you bunch of champions.
    Should I get it?
    I've finished Mass Effect 2 now (yes I know very late) and have little to do at the mo!
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    Should I get it?
    I've finished Mass Effect 2 now (yes I know very late) and have little to do at the mo!
    You should go back to Mass Effect 1 if you haven't already! I'm a bit obsessed with those games.
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    Argh the only time I can buy games is when I break up for summer so I can play them guilt free
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    Just started zelda: ocarina of time on the 3ds. In love with that game all over again.
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    Hey people.

    I'm thinking about getting a stethoscope now rather than later.. in the pretence that I'll do OSCE practice and ****

    But yeah anyway, thinking about getting a Littman Classic II but don't really know much about stethoscopes so not sure if that's the one people recommend and then I have no idea where to get it from..

    Where did people get theirs from and what did you get?

    Cheers
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    (Original post by Penguinsaysquack)
    Hey people.

    I'm thinking about getting a stethoscope now rather than later.. in the pretence that I'll do OSCE practice and ****

    But yeah anyway, thinking about getting a Littman Classic II but don't really know much about stethoscopes so not sure if that's the one people recommend and then I have no idea where to get it from..

    Where did people get theirs from and what did you get?

    Cheers
    Yeah almost everyone in my year got that one. I ordered mine online (I think from medisave) cos they offered free laser engraving
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    (Original post by Philosoraptor)
    Should I get it?
    I've finished Mass Effect 2 now (yes I know very late) and have little to do at the mo!
    It's brilliant. I was expecting not to enjoy it and get bored but I am hooked. It sucks you in with it's vast environment and story telling. It is also good fun working out how to build the sort of character you want.

    I'm making a high level battle mage: one handed weapons and destructive spell casting though in my next play through I'm thinking of going all out mage w/ no armour and only pure reliance on magika.

    /geek.
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    (Original post by Penguinsaysquack)
    Hey people.

    I'm thinking about getting a stethoscope now rather than later.. in the pretence that I'll do OSCE practice and ****

    But yeah anyway, thinking about getting a Littman Classic II but don't really know much about stethoscopes so not sure if that's the one people recommend and then I have no idea where to get it from..

    Where did people get theirs from and what did you get?

    Cheers
    Almost all medical students get a Littman Classic II, apart from the odd few who get the Master Classic II Stethoscope.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Yeah almost everyone in my year got that one. I ordered mine online (I think from medisave) cos they offered free laser engraving

    (Original post by carcinoma)
    Almost all medical students get a Littman Classic II, apart from the odd few who get the Master Classic II Stethoscope.
    Cheers you two.

    I'll take a look around and having looked at the medisave site will probably go ahead and get it from there :yep:
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    (Original post by Penguinsaysquack)
    Cheers you two.

    I'll take a look around and having looked at the medisave site will probably go ahead and get it from there :yep:
    The BMA freshers discount was basically only the delivery, as Medisave sell them at £50.33 +£4.95 delivery, BMA had them for £50.

    Don't you guys have clinical examinations in your first year, like standalone OSCE stations?
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    (Original post by carcinoma)
    The BMA freshers discount was basically only the delivery, as Medisave sell them at £50.33 +£4.95 delivery, BMA had them for £50.

    Don't you guys have clinical examinations in your first year, like standalone OSCE stations?
    Not much of a discount back then then when loads of people bought them..
    I've decided on the bronze finish with just my name engraved on it

    Yeah that's right. So far we've done basic examinations in cardio and respiratory systems. Probably nowhere near as much detail as a proper clinical exam but still something and something that needs to be done so better get some practice in with a stethoscope :erm:

    That and hope that end of year OSCE isn't on a woman as no idea what to do if they have breasts!
    Seriously.. how do you feel for the apex of the heart in a woman if she has breasts? It must be awkward :dontknow:
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    (Original post by Penguinsaysquack)
    That and hope that end of year OSCE isn't on a woman as no idea what to do if they have breasts!
    Seriously.. how do you feel for the apex of the heart in a woman if she has breasts? It must be awkward :dontknow:
    I think you use the back of your hand to push it away rather than grabbing it with your fingers...
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    (Original post by Penguinsaysquack)
    Not much of a discount back then then when loads of people bought them..
    I've decided on the bronze finish with just my name engraved on it

    Yeah that's right. So far we've done basic examinations in cardio and respiratory systems. Probably nowhere near as much detail as a proper clinical exam but still something and something that needs to be done so better get some practice in with a stethoscope :erm:

    That and hope that end of year OSCE isn't on a woman as no idea what to do if they have breasts!
    Seriously.. how do you feel for the apex of the heart in a woman if she has breasts? It must be awkward :dontknow:
    I would just ask them to hold it up and out of the way :dontknow:

    If you act embarrassed, then they will feel embarrassed. Just act professional :yep:
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    (Original post by Penguinsaysquack)
    Not much of a discount back then then when loads of people bought them..
    I've decided on the bronze finish with just my name engraved on it

    Yeah that's right. So far we've done basic examinations in cardio and respiratory systems. Probably nowhere near as much detail as a proper clinical exam but still something and something that needs to be done so better get some practice in with a stethoscope :erm:

    That and hope that end of year OSCE isn't on a woman as no idea what to do if they have breasts!
    Seriously.. how do you feel for the apex of the heart in a woman if she has breasts? It must be awkward :dontknow:
    What do you mean by basic cardio and rep exam?, there is not much to them in the first place.


    Haha, my end of year OSCE (aka clinical competency) combined exam was on a woman. You just ask for them to lift and hold their bra and breast up on the left hand side, or just ask them to move their bra up slightly on the LHS.

    Its not awkward at all in that setting, but to avoid feeling awkward/anxious yourself on the day I would definitely practice on a female.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    I think you use the back of your hand to push it away rather than grabbing it with your fingers...
    We would get assassinated for that, you have to always ask the patient to do it. Although yea that is commonly done.
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    We would get assassinated for that, you have to always ask the patient to do it.
    Whoops duly noted!

    Does that stand even if you ask for their permission and they understand what you're going to do (and with someone else there)?
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Whoops duly noted!

    Does that stand even if you ask for their permission and they understand what you're going to do (and with someone else there)?
    No, that would be acceptable but it would just be far easier for them to hold it up and out of the way. Leaves you both hands free.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Whoops duly noted!

    Does that stand even if you ask for their permission and they understand what you're going to do (and with someone else there)?
    Why would you need their permission? Surely it's less hassle for everyone if they just do it themselves?

    I would much rather move it out the way myself than for anyone else to do it.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    I think you use the back of your hand to push it away rather than grabbing it with your fingers...
    Yeah I've heard that from some of the women that practiced on each other in clinical skills. Just thought I'd see what you lot do
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    I would just ask them to hold it up and out of the way :dontknow:

    If you act embarrassed, then they will feel embarrassed. Just act professional :yep:
    I'll act professional.. or I'll try.

    Still ages away until that though so it's alright for now :yep:
    (Original post by carcinoma)
    What do you mean by basic cardio and rep exam?, there is not much to them in the first place.


    Haha, my end of year OSCE (aka clinical competency) combined exam was on a woman lol. You just ask for them to lift and hold their bra and breast up on the left hand side, or just ask them to move their bra up slightly on the LHS.

    Its not awkward at all in that setting, but to avoid feeling awkward/anxious yourself on the day I would definitely practice on a female.
    Well I don't know whether it's in depth or not as all I have is what I've been taught so far.

    For cardio, aside from general inspection there's radial pulse + rate, radial-radial comparison. Brachial pulse. BP. JVT. Carotid pulse. Apex of the heart. 4 valve auscultations.

    For resp, again gen inspection, looking at use of accessory muscles/diaphragm usage, looking for pectus excavatum/carinatum, cyanosis etc. Vocal crepitus. Expansion of the chest. Percussion. Auscultation.

    Think that's all we need to know so far :dontknow:

    I'll bear that in mind :yep:
    And I think one of our flatmates has offered for us lads to examine her.. sounds odd I know but she offered so might as well :lol:
 
 
 
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