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    (Original post by Lúcio)

    Firstly, Wenger will stay at Arsenal until he dies.
    Secondly, the salt is real

    Klopp is the perfect fit for us - a very passionate and animated manager who did amazing things at a club who are of a similar level to Liverpool.
    He would thrive at Anfield and the fans would respond.
    Not arrogant and doesn't think he's bigger than the club, not like Ancelotti would.
    But yeah, worst fit for him...
    I was talking about from a purely footballing view.

    Look at your current players - Benteke is the total opposite of a Klopp striker. He likes pace, energy, workrate. Benteke has 0 of them.

    You've got a lot of creative players e.g. Lallana, Firmino, Coutinho. Klopp at Dortmund only prefered one of them. There's a lack of direct players at LFC.

    If Klopp comes in there'll be a mass overhaul.

    FYI I've never been big on the Klopp train.
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    (Original post by The Shed End)
    I think every angelfox post is a clear indication of just that.
    @ me next time.
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    (Original post by angelfox)
    I was talking about from a purely footballing view.

    Look at your current players - Benteke is the total opposite of a Klopp striker. He likes pace, energy, workrate. Benteke has 0 of them.

    You've got a lot of creative players e.g. Lallana, Firmino, Coutinho. Klopp at Dortmund only prefered one of them. There's a lack of direct players at LFC.

    If Klopp comes in there'll be a mass overhaul.

    FYI I've never been big on the Klopp train.
    I understand that managers have their own system and style but don't assume that Klopp will be useless just because the squad of Liverpool has different attributes to Dortmund's (in your opinion). Good managers can adapt and he can do that here.

    Benteke may not be suited to Klopp but honestly he isn't suited to Liverpool either so singling him out and using him as an example for the entire club is a little stupid.
    Many of our players have the exact attributes you mentioned above so i don't know what the hell you're talking about...

    Mass overhaul? Why? Jesus this is painful...
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    I understand that managers have their own system and style but don't assume that Klopp will be useless just because the squad of Liverpool has different attributes to Dortmund's (in your opinion). Good managers can adapt and he can do that here.

    Benteke may not be suited to Klopp but honestly he isn't suited to Liverpool either so singling him out and using him as an example for the entire club is a little stupid.
    Many of our players have the exact attributes you mentioned above so i don't know what the hell you're talking about...

    Mass overhaul? Why? Jesus this is painful...
    Ings is perfectly suited tbf.
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    (Original post by angelfox)
    Ings is perfectly suited tbf.
    Thanks for totally unrelated comment.
    Desperate attempt to change topic when you've been called out.

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    (Original post by shawn_o1)
    Don't forget, it's the same Klopp that let Götze go to their rivals, and Lewandowski do the same the following year (for free).
    Gotze had the release clause paid for him. There's nothing you can do in that situation.

    Lewandowski was always going to leave for Bayern regardless of who was manager as well.
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    People who say that Suarez carried Brenda then refuse to admit Lewa/Reus/Gotze carried Klopp smh
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    People who say that Suarez carried Brenda then refuse to admit Lewa/Reus/Gotze carried Klopp smh
    If you're gonna mention 3 names, you might as well throw the whole bloody team in there mate. What about Hummels? Get him in there too.
    What do you know; looks like Klopp was "carried" by 11 players. What a fraud.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    If you're gonna mention 3 names, you might as well throw the whole bloody team in there mate. What about Hummels? Get him in there too.
    What do you know; looks like Klopp was "carried" by 11 players. What a fraud.
    There are more problems with Liverpool than just their manager matey, the only way I can see Klopp fixing it is by bringing in some of his Dortmund players, because otherwise people are going to see he isn't some god of football management, and Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    There are more problems with Liverpool than just their manager matey, the only way I can see Klopp fixing it is by bringing in some of his Dortmund players, because otherwise people are going to see he isn't some god of football management, and Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th.
    You say that as if it's not the best they can hope for
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    (Original post by difeo)
    You say that as if it's not the best they can hope for
    The league is incredibly weak this season, if Liverpool got their **** sorted they could've tried to get second. As it is, their objective will be to keep ahead of Chelsea, and beat Tottenham for the 4th spot.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    There are more problems with Liverpool than just their manager matey, the only way I can see Klopp fixing it is by bringing in some of his Dortmund players, because otherwise people are going to see he isn't some god of football management, and Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th.
    Coutinho and Sturridge are star players.
    Henderson, Milner, Sakho, Benteke and Clyne are solid first XI players.

    We're only really weak in GK, CB and CM and even then it isn't disastrous.
    If we bought a quality keeper OR centre-back, a lot of our problems will be sold.

    We have a better team than you think. A team that is certainly able to at least put in a challenge for top 4 the way this season has stated.
    Perhaps the squad depth isn't quite there yet and maybe we won't make it, but I know my club a lot better than you and I have no problem admitting where we're weak and where we aren't.

    You're absolutely bricking it because there's a possibility that we might get a quality manager and you're terrified of us becoming good again, so you're trying your hardest to convince yourself that he's overrated and that our squad is awful.

    Yet again we have arrogant Arsenal fans who think they're superior. Surprise.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    Coutinho and Sturridge are star players.
    Henderson, Milner, Sakho, Benteke and Clyne are solid first XI players.

    We're only really weak in GK, CB and CM and even then it isn't disastrous.
    If we bought a quality keeper OR centre-back, a lot of our problems will be sold.

    We have a better team than you think. A team that is certainly able to at least put in a challenge for top 4 the way this season has stated.
    Perhaps the squad depth isn't quite there yet and maybe we won't make it, but I know my club a lot better than you and I have no problem admitting where we're weak and where we aren't.

    You're absolutely bricking it because there's a possibility that we might get a quality manager and you're terrified of us becoming good again, so you're trying your hardest to convince yourself that he's overrated and that our squad is awful.

    Yet again we have arrogant Arsenal fans who think they're superior. Surprise.
    Sturridge and Coutinho are "different gravy mate" as your most famous fan the Liddel would say. Nah seriously though they are top class, Stuzza would easily get into our team or united's. The problem is he's injury prone, you could lose him for 6 months with ease (irony I know coming from an arsenal fan). At least you have benteke as back up who is actually a top 4 striker too, I rate him.
    Problem you've got is Cout ain't sticking around, he's gone in the summer. And milner isn't lasting much longer than a season on those legs. You need two new TOP wingers to challenge next season.
    Hendo wouldn't get into any top 4 side and sakho would struggle (although he is young so has potential to get there). I'd add Skrtyl to your list there but again he's getting on a bit.

    Where your main trouble lies is in depth, you just don't have it anywhere bar up top and possibly GK (I rate Bogdan). That along with 3 or 4 glaring holes in your starting squad and you're looking at £70mil AT LEAST to fix those problems, then another £100mil playing 9 or 10 players for depth.

    The fact that you've spent £300mil and you still have obvious problems is laughable.

    Overall judgement: you're in a top 4 scrap but it's tough to say right now who will be in it with you. Spurs should be, Everton to and Chelsea, but West Ham could be a surprise package and Soton are performing too now (and Leicester lol). Whether you'll get top 4 I'm not so sure
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    Klopp couldn't have made Gotze or Lewandowski stay.

    I'm more interested in how he dealt with the departures of the likes of Sahin and Kagawa, to be honest. He allowed them to leave and then recruited them back once their respective moves hadn't materialised into dreams.

    What's more impressive is that Klopp was convinced as to why they struggled, and rectified that duly.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    People who say that Suarez carried Brenda then refuse to admit Lewa/Reus/Gotze carried Klopp smh
    People throwing in random names without taking one single look at dates smh

    Reus wasn't playing for BVB in their most successful seasons. He joined in 2012, after BVB had won a league and a double.

    Lewa scored a grand total of 8 goals in Klopp's first title-winning season - carrying him? Götze was introduced into the 1st team by Klopp and back then far from being in any form to predictably 'carry' a team to anything.

    Later, both Lewa's and Götze's form contributed to BVB's succes - but relying on your best players to perform well does not take anything away from managerial success, that's poor logic. Especially when the manager in question contributed to the development of said players into (potentially) world-class ones. And that's true for both Lewa and Götze.

    Now who by your logic carried Klopp in his first 2 seasons in which he turned BVB from a lost bottom-half side into stable top 4 contenders? Neither of the players you mentioned played for the first team, unless you'd call the 5 sub apps Götze got in 09/10 'to carry'.

    Like I said before, all the people who question Klopp's managerial quality based on criticism that doesn't go deeper than "his last season" or "big players" (why not bring up valid points like his rotation? lack of sustainability?) either seem to know nothing about BVB & their history, or decide to irrationally ignore it. But IIRC you were also comparing BVB's qualifying for the EL to Man Utd potentially qualifying for the EL, so that explains it.
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