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    (Original post by The.Joker)
    I read an article the other day how Klopp wants a young LB because he wants to develop and mould the player himself. We have seen how Klopp can take unproven talent and turn them into a worldie so I have complete and utter trust in him. He might feel that Moreno is ok to start for the short term whilst the new LB learns under Klopp and acclimatises to league and his training methods. Earlier in the season he did say he wants patience from the fans wrt to buying young players as they will inevitably make mistakes.

    Either way we have to look at the bigger picture here, I'd rather Klopp slowly improves the team and players over 2/3 seasons and then have strong foundations and a squad able to challenge on all fronts for the long term. Much better than the yo yoing we have seen in the past few seasons.

    How does everyone feel about Mane for £30 million? I haven't really seen him play much, all I know is he has a good bit of pace on him which is something we need and he can score (scored 15 goals in all comps last season).
    Interesting point but then why can't he buy a young LB who will be given 2-3 years before he's thrown into the first team and someone who can actually compete with Moreno today?

    Mane at that price worries me a little since Southampton have a great ability to rip us off + he seems a bit inconsistent.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Interesting point but then why can't he buy a young LB who will be given 2-3 years before he's thrown into the first team and someone who can actually compete with Moreno today?

    Mane at that price worries me a little since Southampton have a great ability to rip us off + he seems a bit inconsistent.
    Mane strikes me as a more than just a little inconsistent, to be honest.

    I hope we keep Allen.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Interesting point but then why can't he buy a young LB who will be given 2-3 years before he's thrown into the first team and someone who can actually compete with Moreno today?

    Mane at that price worries me a little since Southampton have a great ability to rip us off + he seems a bit inconsistent.

    Not a bit, he is 100% inconsistent, thats why he he sat on the bench for 16 games last season

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    Mane did play centrally behind the striker last season so that could be a reason why he was inconsistent, his normal position is outwide.

    I'm more worried about how he will adjust to playing against compact defences. This is where our new signings usually fail at considering we tend to sign them from clubs who don't face parked busses as often as we do.
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    Mane would be Klopp's first big signing so he must see something..?
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Mane would be Klopp's first big signing so he must see something..?
    What do u mean he sees something ? A manager always sees something in thier signings... but that doesn't mean shii... LVG Bought memphis depay and morgan scheiderland bcoz he saw something from them and then they ended up sucking the bench for more than 20 games.

    Pep guardiola or whatever he's name is, bought ibrahimovic and alexis sanchez and they both proved to be catastrophic.

    Just because Klopp is signing all these players doesnt mean they'll transform to something that will take us to TOP4.


    The only good thing about this signing is that we probably wont be going for rubbish Zielinski (god only know what klopp saw in him)



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    Just read on twitter that LFC are still to sign both Zielinski and mane, jesus christ...


    This is going to be the worst window ever.

    Zielinski is a championship player (material), mane is a mid table player, and we're aiming for Top 4.

    Never gonna happen

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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Mane strikes me as a more than just a little inconsistent, to be honest.

    I hope we keep Allen.
    I agree

    I wouldn't want us paying £30m for Mane when we wouldn't pay a little more than that for Teixiera in January.

    I completely understand that for us the issue is more about whether a player wants to come than how much they cost, but I definitely think we could do better than Mane.
    Regardless if we do sign him, he'll have my full support and I'll be optimistic that he can do well for us

    I heard that we rejected an 8m bid for Allen. This pleases me - get this man a new contract please!
    I'd be legitimately upset if we lost Allen this summer.
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    I don't see anything wrong here...
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    (Original post by nerdling_CompSci)
    What do u mean he sees something ? A manager always sees something in thier signings... but that doesn't mean shii... LVG Bought memphis depay and morgan scheiderland bcoz he saw something from them and then they ended up sucking the bench for more than 20 games.

    Pep guardiola or whatever he's name is, bought ibrahimovic and alexis sanchez and they both proved to be catastrophic.

    Just because Klopp is signing all these players doesnt mean they'll transform to something that will take us to TOP4.

    The only good thing about this signing is that we probably wont be going for rubbish Zielinski (god only know what klopp saw in him)

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    If you can't trust the manager to pick the players for his squad, what is the point? End of the day you can complain to a degree (I complained about Benteke last summer) but if you're going to moan about every signing, you might as well start calling for Klopp to be sacked. Klopp has credit in the bank because he's done a decent job + his track record at Dortmund.

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    I agree

    I wouldn't want us paying £30m for Mane when we wouldn't pay a little more than that for Teixiera in January.

    I completely understand that for us the issue is more about whether a player wants to come than how much they cost, but I definitely think we could do better than Mane.
    Regardless if we do sign him, he'll have my full support and I'll be optimistic that he can do well for us

    I heard that we rejected an 8m bid for Allen. This pleases me - get this man a new contract please!
    I'd be legitimately upset if we lost Allen this summer.
    Texiera got sold for 50mil euros - we were never going to be able to outbid Jiangsu Suning who wanted a marquee signing.

    £30mil is the new £20mil from 5 years ago. It's not the end of the world.

    Nah just means we think we should be in the 10-15mil range for the price we get for Allen. If we were going to give him a new contract, it would've happened a while ago.
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    Why does anyone care if Allen goes? Is it because he looks like a more exotic player?

    He is still a pretty poor player, too weak, no creativity. Just a fairly bog standard player :dontknow:

    It seems like he has become a bit of a meme and people are buying into absolutely nothing of substance.
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    (Original post by The Rusty Spork)
    Why does anyone care if Allen goes? Is it because he looks like a more exotic player?

    He is still a pretty poor player, too weak, no creativity. Just a fairly bog standard player :dontknow:

    It seems like he has become a bit of a meme and people are buying into absolutely nothing of substance.
    Nah we all know if Allen was from Spain/Brazil, we'd be all over him.

    I think you're underestimating him just because he isn't a massively attacking player. He isn't gonna give you a Pirlo pass or a Gerrard long shot, but what he is gonna give you is consistency.

    He'll come on and keep the ball. He'll keep possession. He'll somehow win headers against players much taller than him.
    I agree he isn't a first team player it when you're winning 1-0 after 70 minutes, Allen is the player you want to bring on to calm things down.

    He has been one of the best midfielders of the tournament so far and it's no accident.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    Nah we all know if Allen was from Spain/Brazil, we'd be all over him.

    I think you're underestimating him just because he isn't a massively attacking player. He isn't gonna give you a Pirlo pass or a Gerrard long shot, but what he is gonna give you is consistency.

    He'll come on and keep the ball. He'll keep possession. He'll somehow win headers against players much taller than him.
    I agree he isn't a first team player it when you're winning 1-0 after 70 minutes, Allen is the player you want to bring on to calm things down.

    He has been one of the best midfielders of the tournament so far and it's no accident.
    He's had 4 years to prove himself at Liverpool and he hasn't been able to. 129 appearances so it's not like he hasn't had game time. Would've been nice to keep Allen as a squad player for another year but he was going to get replaced sooner or later.
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    (Original post by nerdling_CompSci)
    Just read on twitter that LFC are still to sign both Zielinski and mane, jesus christ...


    This is going to be the worst window ever.

    Zielinski is a championship player (material), mane is a mid table player, and we're aiming for Top 4.

    Never gonna happen

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    You absolutely have no idea, neither do I, about Zielenski's quality.

    And I'm looking forward to Mane. It's not like Rodgers raiding English clubs because he has no knowledge of players outside of England. Pearce, Paul Joyce among others reported that Klopp has followed Mane since his time at Salzburg so I have confidence in him.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    He's had 4 years to prove himself at Liverpool and he hasn't been able to. 129 appearances so it's not like he hasn't had game time. Would've been nice to keep Allen as a squad player for another year but he was going to get replaced sooner or later.
    I'd sell Henderson before Allen. He was massive last season in big games.

    To name a few, equalizer against Arsenal. At home to Man United in the Europa they were all over us until Allen came on and we coincidentally took back control of the midfield. And in *that* win against Dortmund, him coming on completely changed the game. He's also been fantastic in the Euros.

    I won't be happy if we sell him (and keep Henderson), I'll be disgusted if we sell him for less than £15m. I know my Henderson opinion isn't popular but I'm not a fan.
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    (Original post by Samiz)
    I'd sell Henderson before Allen. He was massive last season in big games.

    To name a few, equalizer against Arsenal. At home to Man United in the Europa they were all over us until Allen came on and we coincidentally took back control of the midfield. And in *that* win against Dortmund, him coming on completely changed the game. He's also been fantastic in the Euros.

    I won't be happy if we sell him (and keep Henderson), I'll be disgusted if we sell him for less than £15m. I know my Henderson opinion isn't popular but I'm not a fan.
    He's worth 15-20, but he'l go for 10-12 because he's in his last year of his contract.
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    (Original post by Samiz)
    I'd sell Henderson before Allen. He was massive last season in big games.

    To name a few, equalizer against Arsenal. At home to Man United in the Europa they were all over us until Allen came on and we coincidentally took back control of the midfield. And in *that* win against Dortmund, him coming on completely changed the game. He's also been fantastic in the Euros.

    I won't be happy if we sell him (and keep Henderson), I'll be disgusted if we sell him for less than £15m. I know my Henderson opinion isn't popular but I'm not a fan.
    I'd do the same in a heartbeat.
    When does the awkward situation come up when our supposed "captain" soon won't be good enough for our first team?

    Like I said before, people underestimate him because he isn't the one scoring or assisting. He's the one stabilising the midfield, keeping possession so that others like Sturridge or Coutinho can get the goals and the glory.

    His usefulness for Wales cannot be underestimated and that's why people love him so much. Yeah they have Bale and Ramsey but Allen is the one who gets the ball to them so they can do their thing.

    He'll never be a world class player but he is the definition of the word "teammate".
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    We're looking to sign Mane for £30m whilst Man Utd are looking to sign Mikhitryan for £30m. Difference between the two sides. Think Klopp is overrated Bundesliga isn't the same as PL. klopp will fail at this rate.
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    (Original post by LFC_fan_321)
    We're looking to sign Mane for £30m whilst Man Utd are looking to sign Mikhitryan for £30m. Difference between the two sides. Think Klopp is overrated Bundesliga isn't the same as PL. klopp will fail at this rate.
    And what are the reported wages of those two m8
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    We have agreed a fee for Mane. £30m. Medical tomorrow.
 
 
 
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