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    http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionslea...al/nextseason/
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    everton, man city, spurs, chelsea in our first 7 games for **** sake we're gonna be in the relegation zone by the start of october
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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    The only issue is when you factor in the CL qualifiers and group stage, all our following fixtures in the league are away, bar Newcastle;

    CL (Qual)
    Everton A
    CL (Qual)
    Leicester A
    CL
    Villa A
    CL
    Chelsea A
    CL
    Sunderland A
    CL
    Swansea A
    CL
    West Brom A
    CL
    Newcastle H
    We must finish top of our CL group this year, even if it's another group of death. Sick and tired of playing the top team in the 2nd round every year now!

    We can afford to rotate heavily for Swansea, WBA, Newcastle, Sunderland. Only Chelsea should be prioritised over the corresponding CL game

    (Original post by Bound 2)
    Could you give us a link to the CL fixtures list?
    In Liverpool's case, the 2014-15 CL fixtures finish in 2014. Never mind though, will be great for inflating Liverpool's finishing position again to be the only top club who can focus on the PL ! Swings and roundabouts. And the good thing is, it takes 3/4 years at least to get into the top CL pots so this can continue for years, or at least until you drop out of the CL again!
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    We must finish top of our CL group this year, even if it's another group of death. Sick and tired of playing the top team in the 2nd round every year now!

    We can afford to rotate heavily for Swansea, WBA, Newcastle, Sunderland. Only Chelsea should be prioritised over the corresponding CL game



    In Liverpool's case, the 2014-15 CL fixtures finish in 2014. Never mind though, will be great for inflating Liverpool's finishing position again to be the only top club who can focus on the PL ! Swings and roundabouts. And the good thing is, it takes 3/4 years at least to get into the top CL pots so this can continue for years, or at least until you drop out of the CL again!
    we only play 2 more games before being embarrassingly dumped out
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    As long as we don't have to go to Eurasia more than once, the away fixtures on the back of CL games won't matter too much. Hopefully the Chelsea match is on the back of an home game as it's the only issue. Not like we won't lose to them anyways.
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    (Original post by Bound 2)
    Viera and Pires
    Henry and Cole
    Hleb and Flamini
    Adebayor and Toure
    Fabregas, Nasri AND Clichy
    van Persie and Song
    Sagna and ...?

    Cazorla and Koscielny looked likely but both have signed new contracts. Ozil has just arrived and has yet to do anything worth being signed by another club anyway. Ramsey had a decent season so is probably under threat but maybe not quite yet. Gibbs to City? Szczesny as a back up to one of the bigger clubs in Europe (I'm thinking RM if Casillas leaves)?
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    we only play 2 more games before being embarrassingly dumped out
    They get through every year so this doesn't even make sense. You can't be an Arsenal fan
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    (Original post by Bound 2)
    Viera and Pires
    Henry and Cole
    Hleb and Flamini
    Adebayor and Toure
    Fabregas, Nasri AND Clichy
    van Persie and Song
    Sagna and ...?

    Cazorla and Koscielny looked likely but both have signed new contracts. Ozil has just arrived and has yet to do anything worth being signed by another club anyway. Ramsey had a decent season so is probably under threat but maybe not quite yet. Gibbs to City? Szczesny as a back up to one of the bigger clubs in Europe (I'm thinking RM if Casillas leaves)?
    Cole left at the same time as Vieira and Pires, not Henry
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    They get through every year so this doesn't even make sense. You can't be an Arsenal fan
    I'm talking about the last 16.....
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    I'm talking about the last 16.....
    You need to be more clear m8
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    You need to be more clear m8
    He said their champions league ends in 2014 so they can finish higher the qualifiers are in august :~|
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    He said their champions league ends in 2014 so they can finish higher the qualifiers are in august :~|
    You quoted all of Zurich's post so I thought you were replying to the first bit and saying you'd be out before the groups as you'd be knocked out in the 2 qualifiers.

    whatever just a miscommunication
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    (Original post by manchesterunited15)
    Cole left at the same time as Vieira and Pires, not Henry
    wikipedia says he left in between, but Henry was a goner after the CL final, it just took an extra year.
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    (Original post by Bound 2)
    wikipedia says he left in between, but Henry was a goner after the CL final, it just took an extra year.
    Oh yeah, same time as Pires but a year after Vieira and a year before Henry
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    What are the odds of Arsenal getting 2nd in their CL group again?

    Bet it's something like 1-4 odds.
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    (Original post by Bound 2)
    wikipedia says he left in between, but Henry was a goner after the CL final, it just took an extra year.
    :rofl:

    He just looked at what he could have won and knew that the grass was greener.


    Henry is a snake :rofl: if Chelsea went in for him after his Barca days he wouldn't have hesitated, Wenger would have not got him because of RVP.
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    (Original post by jam278)
    What are the odds of Arsenal getting 2nd in their CL group again?

    Bet it's something like 1-4 odds.
    They're only in it for the money the CL brings them tbf, otherwise they more or less just make up the numbers nowadays.

    I think Liverpool have a better chance of winning the PL than Arsenal do of winning the CL. Although both are quite unlikely when you think about it.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    They're only in it for the money the CL brings them tbf, otherwise they more or less just make up the numbers nowadays.

    I think Liverpool have a better chance of winning the PL than Arsenal do of winning the CL. Although both are quite unlikely when you think about it.
    You get £50m+ for winning the CL, so if that were true, wouldnt we be desperate to win it? 2006-2012 no doubt the CL revenues were important, I've actually seen the RBS prospectus on the Emirates loans and it was naturally made very clear on that how very important that revenue source was. We're not in that position anymore though.

    But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    You get £50m+ for winning the CL, so if that were true, wouldnt we be desperate to win it? 2006-2012 no doubt the CL revenues were important, I've actually seen the RBS prospectus on the Emirates loans and it was naturally made very clear on that how very important that revenue source was. We're not in that position anymore though.

    But I always have to cringe at the fan of a sugar-daddy club mocking a club that worries about paying it's own way. And end of the day, if Arsenal do ever win the CL it will be off our own back, and people will respect that x100 compared with what Roman bought you, simple as that.
    people wont respect it more. you are so funny though keep it up.

    and no we wouldn't be desperate to win it because the money it costs to build a team that can win it offsets the prize money
 
 
 
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