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    Ah FFS, Hunt stays. Thought he'd been sacked?
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    Crabb gone. Surprised at that.
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    Britain now has a comprehensive school-educated Secretary of State for education, Mrs Greening likely does not know what makes a decent school, has no experience of a good school, and will consign another generation of young Britons, who are unfortunate enough to attend a comprehensive school, to a life of underachievement, false promise, mediocrity, and no hope.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Britain now has a comprehensive school-educated Secretary of State for education, Mrs Greening likely does not know what makes a decent school, has no experience of a good school, and will consign another generation of young Britons, who are unfortunate enough to attend a comprehensive school, to a life of underachievement, false promise, mediocrity, and no hope.
    Yeah, because there are no decent comprehensives and we should definitely only have education secretaries with an experience of schooling which we can't afford to provide to most of the country.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Models collapsed?
    And just because we don't do it much doesn't mean we don't have a part to play.

    Indeed they don't care about generations to come, the effects of oceanic acidification, the affects of acid rain killing forests, the effects of future flooding events due to it being a more unpredictable climate.
    Well, temperatures were supposed to keep going up and going up and going up no end and we were all supposed to be dying in a perpetual heat wave by now, instead we've seen fairly static temperatures for the entirety of the century so far and growing of the ice sheets, we're ****ing over the climate so much that we aren't actually ****ing it over.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Britain now has a comprehensive school-educated Secretary of State for education, Mrs Greening likely does not know what makes a decent school, has no experience of a good school, and will consign another generation of young Britons, who are unfortunate enough to attend a comprehensive school, to a life of underachievement, false promise, mediocrity, and no hope.
    Not the first one, but it's irrelevant because good SoS knows little about their department anyway; former miner as chairman now, and the cabinet keeps getting better and better with somebody pro hunting now heading defra.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Britain now has a comprehensive school-educated Secretary of State for education, Mrs Greening likely does not know what makes a decent school, has no experience of a good school, and will consign another generation of young Britons, who are unfortunate enough to attend a comprehensive school, to a life of underachievement, false promise, mediocrity, and no hope.
    What are you basing your view of comprehensive schools on? Have you ever attended one, or had someone close to you attend one for a reasonably long period of time?
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    Andrea Leadsom as Environment Secretary.. lol, isn't she the one who had to ask what climate change is?

    As expected, the reality does not reflect the rhetoric.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    Andrea Leadsom as Environment Secretary.. lol, isn't she the one who had to ask what climate change is?

    As expected, the reality does not reflect the rhetoric.
    She'll be tasked with sorting out farming subisidies. One of the claims of Brexiteers was that our farmers would not suffer as a result and that the EU funding they received would be subsidized in case of Brexit.

    Now she has her chance to put her money where her mouth is.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Not the first one, but it's irrelevant because good SoS knows little about their department anyway; former miner as chairman now, and the cabinet keeps getting better and better with somebody pro hunting now heading defra.
    It is relevant, having a comprehensive-educate MP in the role before explains why the average standard of education in Britain is near the bottom of the developed world, the department needs an MP who has the ideals of grammar schools, or independent schools to reform education in Britain from the ground up. Tinkering with exams, changing the curriculum, changing what is expected of teachers, and investing in new facilities is small changes that will not bring the large improvements needed, the entire system needs to be destroyed completely to be rebuilt from the ground up to provide all children with a personalised education that pushes each child to reach their own unique potential.

    cranbrook_aspie my view of comprehensive schools is based on the proportion of them being placed in special measures; the move towards large schools with over 1000 pupils where children are known to staff as a number, not a child; the reports that place average education in Britain below the average standard of education in other developed countries; the average standard of achievement of pupils attending comprehensive schools; and the very purpose of comprehensive schools which is to provide all children an education when some children need to be pushed further, or be sent to a borstal school.

    Bornblue finding one isolated example does not prove anything when Parliament is dominated by privately educated MPs who attended the top universities in the country, average lifetime earnings for privately educated individuals is higher, the chance of reaching the top jobs for privately educated individuals is higher, and the average rating of an independent school in Britain is higher, however, the comment does not only refer to independent schools, the comment refers to grammar schools which are a lot better at providing an education than comprehensive schools: the education system needs to be destroyed then rebuilt.
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    Certainly on the face of it Greening in Education is very progressive, if only they matched that with action.
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    http://hellomynameis.org.uk

    Is this for real or just a bad joke?

    “I made the stark observation that many staff looking after me did not introduce themselves before delivering my care. It felt incredibly wrong that such a basic step in communication was missing.”

    Incredibly wrong… Incredibly… Wrong… Incredibly wrong… What the ****?! :confused:

    Britain in five years: Offended for making eye contact, offended for not making eye contact, offended for just being.
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    Patel Made ID Sec ... Not be bad , Clarke is the new Business , Energy and Industry Sec ... Looks like they are keeping DOT and merging Energy and Business considering Skills and Innovation is being handed over to the Education Department as well as HE and FE
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    http://hellomynameis.org.uk

    Is this for real or just a bad joke?

    “I made the stark observation that many staff looking after me did not introduce themselves before delivering my care. It felt incredibly wrong that such a basic step in communication was missing.”

    Incredibly wrong… Incredibly… Wrong… Incredibly wrong… What the ****?! :confused:

    Britain in five years: Offended for making eye contact, offended for not making eye contact, offended for just being.
    It costs nothing and establishes a better relationship between patients and health care staff. Better relationships mean more honest and compliant patients
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)

    cranbrook_aspie my view of comprehensive schools is based on the proportion of them being placed in special measures; the move towards large schools with over 1000 pupils where children are known to staff as a number, not a child; the reports that place average education in Britain below the average standard of education in other developed countries; the average standard of achievement of pupils attending comprehensive schools; and the very purpose of comprehensive schools which is to provide all children an education when some children need to be pushed further, or be sent to a borstal school.
    You cannot assume that all comprehensive schools are the same or judge them as a single entity just based on that. Yes, there are bad ones, but there are also very good comprehensives - there are a couple near me where people have actually moved to be within the catchment area just like they would with a private or grammar school. Also, private schools aren't necessarily good - for example, I attended one where not only were my and other people's rather complex learning difficulties almost entirely brushed over and ignored, but there were people without learning difficulties who did not know basic English spelling, maths and geography up until Year 8.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    http://hellomynameis.org.uk

    Is this for real or just a bad joke?

    “I made the stark observation that many staff looking after me did not introduce themselves before delivering my care. It felt incredibly wrong that such a basic step in communication was missing.”

    Incredibly wrong… Incredibly… Wrong… Incredibly wrong… What the ****?! :confused:

    Britain in five years: Offended for making eye contact, offended for not making eye contact, offended for just being.
    What's wrong with this? If you were seriously ill, would you seriously trust someone that you didn't even know the name of to pay sufficient attention to your needs and provide you with relatively personal care that was adequately tailored to your specific requirements?
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    It costs nothing and establishes a better relationship between patients and health care staff. Better relationships mean more honest and compliant patients
    Okay, but kicking up a fuss of gigantic proportions for a non-issue such as someone not introducing himself? She should have asked them or complained to their superiors if she felt so hurt and *****y, not rant to her husband and start a social media campaign. No wonder he essentially told her to shut the **** up.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    What's wrong with this? If you were seriously ill, would you seriously trust someone that you didn't even know the name of to pay sufficient attention to your needs and provide you with relatively personal care that was adequately tailored to your specific requirements?
    How does knowing someone's name influences their skill and expertise?! :confused:
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    You cannot assume that all comprehensive schools are the same or judge them as a single entity just based on that. Yes, there are bad ones, but there are also very good comprehensives - there are a couple near me where people have actually moved to be within the catchment area just like they would with a private or grammar school. Also, private schools aren't necessarily good - for example, I attended one where not only were my and other people's rather complex learning difficulties almost entirely brushed over and ignored, but there were people without learning difficulties who did not know basic English spelling, maths and geography up until Year 8.
    That is a lovely story, dear, you tell is so nicely, I do like to hear about anecdotal examples to try to disprove all of the reports stating the averages for both systems wrong. There are good comprehensive school but one good school does not justify the continued existence of an education system that systematically fails generation after generation by failing to push pupils to reach their abilities, failing to foster ambition in pupils, and consigning pupils to a life of mediocrity where the average circumstance of their lives will be a boring office job with average pay at best.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Bornblue finding one isolated example does not prove anything when Parliament is dominated by privately educated MPs who attended the top universities in the country, average lifetime earnings for privately educated individuals is higher, the chance of reaching the top jobs for privately educated individuals is higher, and the average rating of an independent school in Britain is higher, however, the comment does not only refer to independent schools, the comment refers to grammar schools which are a lot better at providing an education than comprehensive schools: the education system needs to be destroyed then rebuilt.
    This is rather silly.
    You are complaining about how comprehensive schools lead to underachievement while bringing up an example of a comprehensive school student reaching the cabinet. Yeah, real underachivement.

    All you are doing really is pointing out inequalities. Of course private school students generally do better, that's because they pay huge amounts for their education which the general public cannot afford.
    But sadly the vast majority of people cannot afford to go to a fee-paying school. What's your solution, government grants?

    I know those on the tory right and UKIPers go on about grammar schools as if they are the holy grail and the answer to all our problems, but as usual with such groups they ignore the mountains of evidence disproving their point and instead listen to the man down the pub.
    We had grammar schools for decades and still do. There is zero evidence that grammar schools did or do increase social mobility and if anything, they seemed to reduce it.

    Only a few weeks ago you were supporting turning all schools, including grammar schools into academies, of which there is zero evidence that they increase performance.
 
 
 
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