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Original post by joostan
I'm sorry to say that the two forms you've given me are not equivalent. Check the bold.
The inductive proof was so much tidier :tongue:


Original post by DJMayes
As said, it cost me 5 UMS - I don't know exactly how many raw marks that is though, and I'm fairly sure I got the rest of the paper right.



You're not allowed to just quote the summation formula, so there are a few things you could do. Firstly, you could prove the summation formula Sn=12n(2a+(n1)d) S_n = \frac{1}{2}n(2a+(n-1)d) (I think that's the formula) but in my opinion a better way would be to simply prove the given summation using induction.

(You could also prove the result for the sum from one to n of r, and then use this and series methods to derive the result. The problem is that I'm not familiar with the WJEC syllabus so I don't know what method is going to be expected.)


Wait what?

I can get the summation from first principles...

But then what do I do with that?

( 4n^2 - 2n ) / 2 = 2n^2 - n

= n(2n-1)
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Wait what?

I can get the summation from first principles...

But then what do I do with that?

( 4n^2 - 2n ) / 2 = 2n^2 - n

= n(2n-1)


You ask a question, then proceed to solve it... so are you really asking a question at all? :curious:
Original post by justinawe
You ask a question, then proceed to solve it... so are you really asking a question at all? :curious:


:dontknow:

So my two choices are:

Prove general summation and sub in values.

Prove summation using the values there (as Llewellyn showed me from the mark scheme)
Original post by L'Evil Fish
:dontknow:

So my two choices are:

Prove general summation and sub in values.

Prove summation using the values there (as Llewellyn showed me from the mark scheme)


I honestly have no clue what is meant by proving "from first principles" here, so I'd just go with what they put in the markscheme.
Original post by justinawe
I honestly have no clue what is meant by proving "from first principles" here, so I'd just go with what they put in the markscheme.


Okay that's fine then...

What else... There was this too, maybe I'm just finding manipulation difficult, it was last night though...

I'll post them in a few minutes if you don't mind?
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Okay that's fine then...

What else... There was this too, maybe I'm just finding manipulation difficult, it was last night though...

I'll post them in a few minutes if you don't mind?


Sure, go ahead.
Original post by justinawe
Sure, go ahead.


Really simple method I guess... Just don't know where I went wrong.

AP:
55 = Sum of first ten
4th + 7th + 9th = 27

55 = 5(a+9d)
11 = a + 9d
a = 11 - 9d

(a+3d)+(a+6d)+(a+8d)=27
(11-9d+3d)+(11-9d+6d)+(11-9d+8d)=27

33 - 10d = 27
d = 6/10
a = 5.6
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Original post by joostan
On second thoughts I suppose you're right. :smile:
Btw I proved the summation formula on the previous page :tongue:


Ahh, fair do's, fair do's ^^
Original post by L'Evil Fish
:dontknow:

So my two choices are:

Prove general summation and sub in values.

Prove summation using the values there (as Llewellyn showed me from the mark scheme)

Or, choice number 3... :tongue: :emo:
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Really simple method I guess... Just don't know where I went wrong.

AP:
55 = Sum of first ten
4th + 7th + 9th = 27

55 = 5(a+9d)
11 = a + 9d
a = 11 - 9d

(a+3d)+(a+6d)+(a+8d)=27
(11-9d+3d)+(11-9d+6d)+(11-9d+8d)=27

33 - 10d = 27
d = 6/10
a = 5.6


2a :colone:
Original post by justinawe
2a :colone:


Damn, okay, that's sorted then...

Last one before it should be full marks in my knowledge (like I could now)

I think it was a circle one...

Area of Sector OAB = 43.56

Arc BC is 13cm shorter than CD.

Radius is 11cm.

I need to find theta and the other one.

I got

Theta = 0.72
The other one = 1.80 (this is wrong I think)

Forgot to post a diagram... *walks upstairs*

And now it wont upload :mad:
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Damn, okay, that's sorted then...

Last one before it should be full marks in my knowledge (like I could now)

I think it was a circle one...

Area of Sector OAB = 43.56

Arc BC is 13cm shorter than CD.

Radius is 11cm.

I need to find theta and the other one.

I got

Theta = 0.72
The other one = 1.80 (this is wrong I think)


Your value for theta is right.

What's this "other one" you speak of, though? :colonhash:
Original post by justinawe
Your value for theta is right.

What's this "other one" you speak of, though? :colonhash:


Call it angle x.

Basically:

11x + 13 = 11(pi-x)

In my opinion, because it's the diameter, split up into two sectors, with one labelled x. And one arc is 13cm less than the other arc.
Reply 872
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Wait what?

I can get the summation from first principles...

But then what do I do with that?

( 4n^2 - 2n ) / 2 = 2n^2 - n

= n(2n-1)


Precisely :smile:
Original post by joostan
Precisely :smile:


Sn = 1 + 5 + . . . + (4n 7) + (4n 3)
Sn = (4n 3) + (4n 7) + . . . + 5 + 1
Reversing and adding
Either:
2Sn = (4n 2) + (4n 2) + . . . + (4n 2) + (4n 2)
Or:
2Sn = (4n 2) + . . . (n times)
2Sn = n(4n 2)
Sn = n(2n 1)
Reply 874
Original post by L'Evil Fish
Sn = 1 + 5 + . . . + (4n 7) + (4n 3)
Sn = (4n 3) + (4n 7) + . . . + 5 + 1
Reversing and adding
Either:
2Sn = (4n 2) + (4n 2) + . . . + (4n 2) + (4n 2)
Or:
2Sn = (4n 2) + . . . (n times)
2Sn = n(4n 2)
Sn = n(2n 1)


Yeah or . . .
Option 3:

Spoiler

Original post by joostan
Yeah or . . .
Option 3:

Spoiler



I can't do those for **** :tongue:
Reply 876
Original post by L'Evil Fish
I can't do those for **** :tongue:


Lol but it's so pretty :tongue:
Original post by joostan
Lol but it's so pretty :tongue:


If I did that, do you think I would have gotten marks anyway?:tongue:
Original post by L'Evil Fish
I can't do those for **** :tongue:

Isn't it just a simple process each time. Prove for base case, k, k+1.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by reubenkinara
Is it just a simple process each time. Prove for base case, k, k+1.


Yeah, but it never works for me :9

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