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    (Original post by VannR)
    I should clarify. I mean the dialect, not just the accent.
    so since all human language evolves, how can there be a true type of language?
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    (Original post by bittr n swt)
    ^^Environment stuff is bull**** now, damage is done and will never be fully reversed

    I have many views which are unpopular because I'm a traditional man.
    The only true damage that has been done is to Humankind- nature is so much more versatile, adaptable and robust than we will ever be. The world will recover, we won't! Things can be reversed- granted, not fully reversed as long as we have any involvement- but there is not a single thing that we, as a society and species do that can't be fully revised or re-established in order to amend this damage that we've inflicted upon every thing we've laid our hands on.
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    A lot of "clinically depressed" people just need to get over themselves and realise the great position they are in.

    They are wealthier, healthier and safer than 80% of the world. You have so much you can do.

    It would probably help if pharmaceutical companies didn't benefit from their "illnesses".
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    (Original post by All_TheCyanide)
    Not all of us. That's like saying all Muslims are terrorists.

    A lot of my closest friends are guys. The only guys I don't like are those who treat me badly because I'm female.

    I can see where you're coming from though, as it would really seem this way if you'd been listening to that Anita woman. But equally, I could then say that all <insert group of men here> are sexist because I've heard a lot of them be sexist.
    I'm not sure that's an apt analogy, since in my experience a far greater proportion of feminists are man-haters than the comparable small proportion of Muslims which are terrorists.

    I have a couple of friends who are feminists, but neither of them are radical nor man-hating. Man-haters usually get swiftly ejected from my life.

    What particularly galls me about the man-hating feminists is their hypocrisy. They are totally intolerant of hatred of women (including the mildest expressions of disdain for women), while simultaneously espousing a generalised hatred and disdain for men. So if a man has been badly hurt by women and develops a generalised disdain for women, such feminists are happy to demonise and bully him, while exhibiting a complete lack of empathy and sympathy. Yet if a woman expresses much worse hatred and disdain for men, it's "you go girl". I've met quite a few fitting that mould.

    The hypocrisy also extends to which parts of traditional gender roles they would like to keep. For example, a man in distress is still essentially told to "man up" and not be a pussy, in other words, to assume his traditionalist role, and such male distress is viewed as worthy of contempt and hostility rather than empathy and compassion. Shaming and bullying tactics are often viewed as appropriate when directed against such men. While a woman in distress is viewed as an appropriate beneficiary of empathy and compassion. This is just a recycling of old-school chivalry, and the antithesis of gender equality.

    True gender equality would rip apart such gender roles, and make members of both genders equally worthy of empathy and compassion when in distress. It would condemn shaming men into traditionalist gender roles and the social expectations of men to be rugged and Teflon-like, and have no problem granting empathy and compassion to anyone regardless of gender, even when this places a greater onus on women to demonstrate compassion for men who are "weak" or vulnerable or in distress than the traditionalist model.

    Yet granting empathy and compassion to males seems anathema to a lot of feminism in practice, and I have seen a number of purportedly feminist women with nothing but contempt for men who are suffering, and often no qualms in practising bullying behaviour towards them or towards anyone who disagrees with their dogma. This suggests to me that gender equality is not their true agenda, and they are followers of a toxic movement of hate.

    “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” – Robin Morgan
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Anyone on JSA should have to work for 2 days a week on community improvement type projects to earn their money.
    This is something I agree with. Did used to know someone who moaned that he was made to do this. Well, it's got to be better than sitting on your backside all day, no?:rolleyes:
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    Hmm maybe jsa folks could all ride exercise bikes to generate electricity and reduce our fossil fuel consumption.
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    (Original post by Xin Xang)
    A lot of "clinically depressed" people just need to get over themselves and realise the great position they are in.

    They are wealthier, healthier and safer than 80% of the world. You have so much you can do.

    It would probably help if pharmaceutical companies didn't benefit from their "illnesses".
    expect its not that simple......and mental illness rates in the developing world are and can be just as high...
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    (Original post by slg60)
    Even without the whips? What about owning a family pet?
    Horses still have metal in their mouths. Scientists have tested the strength and impact of bits in the horses' mouth, the average pull from a 13 year old boy equalled to 300kg of pressure per sq cm on the horses' mouth. A 'yank' on the bit, exerting even more pressure - say when a rider pulls a horse to the side to stop it running around a jump - causes an entire neuro chronic shock through the horses' head. If this was done to a human, it would cause temporal blindness. Horses could be running blindly at jumps and the rider doesn't even know.

    Unfortunately, even the removal of the bit is bad for the horse, for the straps on the bridle press on sensitive face tissue, tearing tissue on the horses' nose.

    Whenever you see a ridden horse, say in the sport of dressage, in 'collection', it is a false collection. Horses 'collect' naturally when a stallion is exerting his presence in a herd - he puffs his entire body up to make his front half appear larger and more powerful, bringing his hind legs underneath him, neck up in the air, and his head may drop vertically. When a horse is ridden, all the rider does is pull on the bit/bridle to bring his head down and in. This tears the horses' poll tissue and causes extra bone to grow. We may think we are riding horses in 'correct', 'natural' collection when our horses start to adapt this position themselves, when in reality it is just muscle memory - painful muscle memory. Pain in the poll or pain in the mouth when you stick your head up to avoid said pain, and the rider pulls on your mouth to bring it back down? A horse can only stay in true natural collection for 45 seconds - this may extend to two minutes as the horse matures and becomes stronger. An average exercise session for a horse is an hour. Tell me, the bit does not exert such pain, how is a small, fragile human able to force a horse into such a position?

    When you consider just how riders are able to manipulate horses into doing things a horse would never consider doing, it makes complete sense that the only way we could coerce such a heavy, powerful creature into doing these things is through pain - pain in the most fragile part of a creatures body - the mouth.

    Horses are not physiologically designed to carry humans. It is rather bizarre that this kind of thing is still allowed - just imagine people's reactions if this was done to a dog?

    I could go on forever about horse riding - not to mention the pressure a rider on a horses' back exerts on its muscles - but I'll stop here to answer the family pet question.

    Of course I have no problems with keeping horses - but I don't agree with stabling horses. Even before really reading into scientific research, I could never get my head around why people think its okay to confine such an animal in such a small space. Especially when a horse is designed to be constantly moving and grazing. People wonder why horses' get colic, lameness, stiffness… it's really not rocket science… I've also heard stupid things like 'well, it's cruel to leave it outside at night in the cold'. :facepalm: My own horse has the option of going in a stable or standing outside in his field. He will always roam outside in the rain or snow rather than stand in his stable. This is because a horse's natural instinct to graze, and move, overrides the weather. Besides, he grows a winter coat, and even has the luxury of wearing rugs. Horses, believe it or not, are adapted to living outside. :eek: They have to keep moving to keep their digestive system going, or else they develop illnesses.

    If a tiger was kept in a cage at a zoo the same proportion as a horse to its stable, the amount of complaints would rocket. Why is it okay for horses?

    Of course, there are people that ride and really do love their horses, as opposed to those that use them for sport and materialist gain.

    I do try and be open minded about it. But personally I struggle to ride horses now
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    (Original post by hamix.forllz)
    so since all human language evolves, how can there be a true type of language?
    This thread is about controversial views, remember. You are not expected to agree with, or even understand my point of view. I don't know why I think this, but I do, and I don't really think that anything could change my mind on the matter.
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    (Original post by VannR)
    This thread is about controversial views, remember. You are not expected to agree with, or even understand my point of view. I don't know why I think this, but I do, and I don't really think that anything could change my mind on the matter.
    erm..no, its about discussuon, idiot...
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    Inheritance isn't taxed enough.
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    (Original post by TheTruthTeller)
    Hey guys,

    As the title says, what is the view you hold deemed most "controversial" in this society we live in today in Britain?
    I firmly believe in concentration camps being the best thing... Not for Jews though, I couldn't do that to my people
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    (Original post by Blue_Mason)
    Nothing wrong with acknowledging or complimenting on another mans appearance.
    But us men have boundaries when it comes to complementation.
    You typed men have a "man crush" with crush meaning you you're sexaully attracted or have feelings for that person.
    Men do not cross those boundaries unless they're bisexual or gay.
    Some men do call it a man crush and r straight. .. whether you like it or not
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    (Original post by morgan8002)
    Opportunity for places should be given based on ability and intelligence, not economic background.
    And that's why there are loans, grants, bursaries and scholarships available for those from disadvantaged backgrounds who deserve to go?
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    All educational exams should be standardised (i.e. ONE exam board) and all universities should create their own aptitude/verbal reasoning tests (or perhaps IQ tests) for applicants to take.

    And also UCAS should allow you to have more than five options.
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    That everything evil emanates from the poor.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    I firmly believe in concentration camps being the best thing... Not for Jews though, I couldn't do that to my people
    Yes, but you're French so you probably do mean that.
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    I've been thinking this one over the past few days, and I think it's probably this;


    You're not entitled to an opinion without the reasons behind it.



    What this amounts to is that most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. That most people on TSR who have their opinions shouldn't be considered at all, could even go into a subsection of the debates & current affairs where they'll rot until they find reasons for their posts and can join the other sections. It's something that sounds so simple in theory but in practice would be extremely oppressive.


    It sounds bad but to be honest I think I have a reason behind it, so it's a circular logic I can't escape. :lol:
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    (Original post by Hal.E.Lujah)
    I've been thinking this one over the past few days, and I think it's probably this;


    You're not entitled to an opinion without the reasons behind it.



    What this amounts to is that most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. That most people on TSR who have their opinions shouldn't be considered at all, could even go into a subsection of the debates & current affairs where they'll rot until they find reasons for their posts and can join the other sections. It's something that sounds so simple in theory but in practice would be extremely oppressive.


    It sounds bad but to be honest I think I have a reason behind it, so it's a circular logic I can't escape. :lol:
    people dont need teasons to do things...
 
 
 
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