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    (Original post by geoking)
    Oh dear.

    It means that if someone was to propose that the UK was to become an oligarchy or autocracy, you would probably argue that a democracy is the best form of government.
    Of course I would. And you wouldn't?

    Unlike you I seem to be quite keen on democracy. If you trust in democracy why are you afraid of a 2nd Referendum?

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    Of course I would. And you wouldn't?

    Unlike you I seem to be quite keen on democracy. If you trust in democracy why are you afraid of a 2nd Referendum?

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    Probably because it's being called by the losers of another referendum which has only just happened, because they don't respect the outcome of a democratic poll?

    Democracy doesn't = "it only counts if the vote goes my way".

    I mean protesting the outcome is the height of stupidity. There is nothing to protest. You lodged your opinion/will during the referendum, and your chosen outcome was legitimately defeated by the opposition. End of.

    Disappointment is understandable, but a lot of Remainer's grip on democratic principles is sorely deficient/warped.
    Kids who have been raised with the false impression that shouting and moaning the loudest = legitimacy and mandate for a position in democracy rather than the will of the majority.
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    Parliament has agreed to debate the petition.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

    The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.

    The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.

    A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.

    The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website:http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role

    Thanks,
    The Petitions team
    UK Government and Parliament



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    Parliament has agreed to debate the petition.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

    The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.

    The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.

    A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.

    The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website:http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role

    Thanks,
    The Petitions team
    UK Government and Parliament



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    Well that is something i suppose.
    No hope though
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    (Original post by FredOrJohn)
    Well that is something i suppose.
    No hope though
    Correct. There never was.

    But it will mean the issue has its "day in court"....

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    Correct. There never was.

    But it will mean the issue has its "day in court"....

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    Lets hope that the the REMAIN MPs can give the government a good verbal kicking
 
 
 
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