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    Why are we being linked with Arbeloa? He won't fix our defence ffs. Can't we keep Manquillo?
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Why are we being linked with Arbeloa? He won't fix our defence ffs. Can't we keep Manquillo?
    There's something about Manquillo that Rodgers doesn't rate. I think it's his overall fitness - don't think he has the energy to last 90 mins how Rodgers wants his fullbacks/wingbacks (and probably won't ever).


    Assaidi sale confirmed.

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...permanent-deal
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    I feel like we'll still need to spend more than that regardless.
    Providing we sell the players we don't need/want, we really do need to spend in the summer but actually get it right this time.

    No youngsters with potential, no punts on the next big thing
    Just buy quality, even if it's a higher price.
    We've wasted so much money on trying to do that, and we would've been much better off buying big in the first place.

    Balotelli and Lovren cost 36m.
    Neither get in to our team.
    36m could get you a top striker or a world class defender, that's all I'm saying...
    That isn't how the football world works though. Almost any transfer has the capacity to fail, regardless of whether you are buying established players or youngsters so spending all your budget on 1 or 2 decent 3rd/4th tier senior players isn't smart at all.
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    (Original post by The_Mighty_Bush)
    That isn't how the football world works though. Almost any transfer has the capacity to fail, regardless of whether you are buying established players or youngsters so spending all your budget on 1 or 2 decent 3rd/4th tier senior players isn't smart at all.
    Tomkins reckons statistically only 40% succeed.
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    Good business RE: Assaidi.

    The Arbeloa thing is weird. He's obviously experienced, and if we could get him cheap and pay him less than Johnson, I wouldn't be anti his return. He's Madrid's weak link, though, and he wouldn't make that much of a difference to us in that position. There are other areas we are desperately needing improvements, and it worries me we aren't linked with strengthening them. We're in danger of becoming Arsenal in the back end of the noughties, when Wenger kept buying the same type of creative player and failed to address their need for a holding midfielder/a bit of bite in midfield.
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    So when Sturridge comes back, do we stick to 3-4-3 or change to a 4-2-3-1 or do we go back to the 4-4-2 diamond that people love?
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    So when Sturridge comes back, do we stick to 3-4-3 or change to a 4-2-3-1 or do we go back to the 4-4-2 diamond that people love?
    do you mean a 4-4-2 diamond with sturridge-sterling or with sturridge-balotelli
    because i feel like we would work best with sturridge as a spearhead and 2 players out wide (i.e: sterling and markovic for instance)

    i like 3-4-3 for us
    it accommodates our fullbacks very well, still giving us a solid midfield with henderson and lucas, and also has the creativity up top.

    i think overall it would all depend on who we buy (if anybody) this month.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    do you mean a 4-4-2 diamond with sturridge-sterling or with sturridge-balotelli
    because i feel like we would work best with sturridge as a spearhead and 2 players out wide (i.e: sterling and markovic for instance)

    i like 3-4-3 for us
    it accommodates our fullbacks very well, still giving us a solid midfield with henderson and lucas, and also has the creativity up top.

    i think overall it would all depend on who we buy (if anybody) this month.
    Assuming we don't buy anyone?

    So you would go with:

    Coutinho Sturridge Sterling
    Moreno Lucas Henderson Markovic
    Sakho Skrtel Can
    Mignolet

    Personally I wonder if we should go to:

    Sturridge
    Coutinho Sterling Markovic
    Lucas Henderson
    Moreno Sakho Skrtel Manquillo
    Mignolet

    Although it is hard to leave Can out.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Assuming we don't buy anyone?

    So you would go with:

    Coutinho Sturridge Sterling
    Moreno Lucas Henderson Markovic
    Sakho Skrtel Can
    Mignolet

    Personally I wonder if we should go to:

    Sturridge
    Coutinho Sterling Markovic
    Lucas Henderson
    Moreno Sakho Skrtel Manquillo
    Mignolet

    Although it is hard to leave Can out.
    Definitely prefer the second option there. Can/Lucas can alternate, I'd have no issue with that.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Assuming we don't buy anyone?

    So you would go with:

    Coutinho Sturridge Sterling
    Moreno Lucas Henderson Markovic
    Sakho Skrtel Can
    Mignolet

    Personally I wonder if we should go to:

    Sturridge
    Coutinho Sterling Markovic
    Lucas Henderson
    Moreno Sakho Skrtel Manquillo
    Mignolet

    Although it is hard to leave Can out.
    the first one you mentioned would be my exact XI and formation.
    markovic was an excellent RWB against sunderland - even though they were poor, he showed his ability to defend at a "decent" level and his willingness to make a run forward.
    plus with 3 centre backs, his lack of defensive experiences would be compensated for.
    being able to bring on lallana and gerrard for goals with manquillo as defensive backup would be nice.

    4-2-3-1 would be quite an easy, typical formation for us.
    not one i would be against though
    i feel like having a good set-up for 3-4-3 and 4-2-3-1 would allow us to alter our style depending on the opponent or how things are going during the match.

    like i said, this is assuming we don't buy anybody that would go in to the first team.
    if we bought a first team striker this month, maybe a diamond would be the way to go
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    Definitely prefer the second option there. Can/Lucas can alternate, I'd have no issue with that.
    Great minds think alike


    (Original post by Lúcio)
    the first one you mentioned would be my exact XI and formation.
    markovic was an excellent RWB against sunderland - even though they were poor, he showed his ability to defend at a "decent" level and his willingness to make a run forward.
    plus with 3 centre backs, his lack of defensive experiences would be compensated for.
    being able to bring on lallana and gerrard for goals with manquillo as defensive backup would be nice.

    4-2-3-1 would be quite an easy, typical formation for us.
    not one i would be against though
    i feel like having a good set-up for 3-4-3 and 4-2-3-1 would allow us to alter our style depending on the opponent or how things are going during the match.

    like i said, this is assuming we don't buy anybody that would go in to the first team.
    if we bought a first team striker this month, maybe a diamond would be the way to go
    Yea you can see how it's more likely to rip apart certain teams but equally it could be ripped apart?

    The 3-4-3 would probably be more likely to break down Villa than the 4-2-3-1. You can see how Lucas and Henderson could get shut down and then stop the ball going into our front 4.
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    Swiss Ramble has started posting on his blog again.

    Man Utd's revenues will probably break £500mil next year when the Chevrolet and Adidas deals kick in along with the new CL TV deal if they finish top 4 this year. Foe 2013/14 I believe Man Utd's revenues were £433mil

    Our figures haven't been released yet but I imagine they will be around 250-260mil by comparison for 2013/14.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Yea you can see how it's more likely to rip apart certain teams but equally it could be ripped apart?

    The 3-4-3 would probably be more likely to break down Villa than the 4-2-3-1. You can see how Lucas and Henderson could get shut down and then stop the ball going into our front 4.
    yeah, it's definitely a risky formation against some of the better teams, but we all know rodgers is a risky manager when you look at how he seems to ignore defence and focus only on attacking.

    villa's big problem is scoring goals - they've scored a ridiculously low number this season but also conceded few too.
    3-4-3 would definitely work better to break down their defence - using wing backs to add to our attack would definitely stretch their defenders and make things easier.

    i'm working on the saturday so i won't be able to see the game at all, which will suck.

    will we have sturridge back on saturday or will he return for the cup game(s) instead?
    come to think of it; 3 cup games in a week - 2 of those aginst chelsea?!
    damn...
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    yeah, it's definitely a risky formation against some of the better teams, but we all know rodgers is a risky manager when you look at how he seems to ignore defence and focus only on attacking.

    villa's big problem is scoring goals - they've scored a ridiculously low number this season but also conceded few too.
    3-4-3 would definitely work better to break down their defence - using wing backs to add to our attack would definitely stretch their defenders and make things easier.

    i'm working on the saturday so i won't be able to see the game at all, which will suck.

    will we have sturridge back on saturday or will he return for the cup game(s) instead?
    come to think of it; 3 cup games in a week - 2 of those aginst chelsea?!
    damn...
    Well maybe he should start looking at our defence..!

    You know Villa will score like 5 goals against us. Always happens that a team down on its luck gets a dose of it against us before becoming crap again.

    My guess is that they won't rush Sturridge back and will assess and manage his return for the long term benefit. Doubt he'll be in the squad against Villa. Maybe we'll see him in the squad against Bolton or the 2nd leg against Chelsea? I imagine he'll get like 20-30 mins for a week or two and then slowly build up to 90 mins.
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    When is Flanagan set to come back? The lad has been out for longer than Sturridge which is an achievement....
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    (Original post by samir12)
    When is Flanagan set to come back? The lad has been out for longer than Sturridge which is an achievement....
    Might be back in about a month? Had fluid in his knees or something which didn't clear up so had to have an operation.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Might be back in about a month? Had fluid in his knees or something which didn't clear up so had to have an operation.
    Hopefully by mid February, we will have a fully fit squad which we will need for the extra EL games coming up.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Well maybe he should start looking at our defence..!

    You know Villa will score like 5 goals against us. Always happens that a team down on its luck gets a dose of it against us before becoming crap again.

    My guess is that they won't rush Sturridge back and will assess and manage his return for the long term benefit. Doubt he'll be in the squad against Villa. Maybe we'll see him in the squad against Bolton or the 2nd leg against Chelsea? I imagine he'll get like 20-30 mins for a week or two and then slowly build up to 90 mins.
    you know he isn't like that as a manager.
    kinda pisses me off because growing up i've been used to a manager like benitez who would get 30+ clean sheets in a season.
    last season in the league we got a grand total of....10.

    that's true - we always seem to think a match will be easy, but then the opponent decides to just go for it randomly and we get embarrassed.

    i wouldn't chance him at the weekend, i'd play for 30 minutes in the first chelsea leg, rest him for bolton (maybe a 10 minute cameo) and give him the full game in the second leg.
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    Forget about Flanno bless him. His return gives us another option. Hope the injury hasn't affected his ability in the way it did with Martin Kelly.
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    (Original post by samir12)
    Hopefully by mid February, we will have a fully fit squad which we will need for the extra EL games coming up.
    Yea fingers crossed. Other than Sturridge we've not been too unfortunate with injuries this season.

    (Original post by Lúcio)
    you know he isn't like that as a manager.
    kinda pisses me off because growing up i've been used to a manager like benitez who would get 30+ clean sheets in a season.
    last season in the league we got a grand total of....10.

    that's true - we always seem to think a match will be easy, but then the opponent decides to just go for it randomly and we get embarrassed.

    i wouldn't chance him at the weekend, i'd play for 30 minutes in the first chelsea leg, rest him for bolton (maybe a 10 minute cameo) and give him the full game in the second leg.
    Well he needs to learn if he wants to win anything.

    I don't think he'll be ready that soon. He's not played any football for over 4 months so might take him more time with training?

    (Original post by Mackay)
    Forget about Flanno bless him. His return gives us another option. Hope the injury hasn't affected his ability in the way it did with Martin Kelly.
    Will take him a while to get the fitness back and then he's competing with Johnson and Manquillo - potentially even Markovic at RWB. Might be a while till we see much of him. Think his contract expires this summer too so we'll see if he signs or not.
 
 
 
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