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    (Original post by Kevmeister)
    Frimpong/Ramsey - new signings.
    Do you want to make a bet that Wenger will sign someone this summer? You seem to forget that Koscielny/Vermaelen/Arshavin/Nasri have all been fairly big buys in recent summers.
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    We need someone that isn't afraid to shoot when outside the 18 yard box. and definitely a commanding centre back...personally i'd prefer an Englishman with a no nonsense attitude. Gary Cahill? We missed out on Smalling who is looking like a great prospect.

    The keeper situation is bugging me, even though schezney is a quality shot stopper, his decisions making needs to get better! he's young though so you never know.
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    (Original post by 419)
    Kos over Djour?
    easily
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    (Original post by 419)
    Eveyone's talking about which players to get rid, but no one is suggesting any replacement.
    That's because there's not a lot of point speculating, frankly.

    Have you ever in your Arsenal supporting life predicted a signing before it was announced in the media?
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    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...ummer-transfer
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    (Original post by T.Adams VI)
    Do you want to make a bet that Wenger will sign someone this summer? You seem to forget that Koscielny/Vermaelen/Arshavin/Nasri have all been fairly big buys in recent summers.
    Arshavin wasn't a summer signing. I'll say that Wenger won't sign a midfielder unless Cesc leaves, tbh.
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    If we had spent an extra £2m on Xabi Alonso, we'd be champions.
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    (Original post by keira)
    Wenger never bought the best players. Ever. Henry was like 26 or something when he came. He always bought established players for £10 million pounds who he then took to the next step. Sure I'll give him four years of not very much money because of the stadium but why can't we revert back to that old model now? None of the invincibles cost the earth.
    No, Henry was 21/22 when he came.
    Wenger has always stuck with the old model. But, he was able to get away with it back then because other teams weren't spending money then but then came Ambromovich and recently with Citeh. (You can't race a Renault Clio against a Bugatti Veyron. )

    Now with the UEFA Finiancial play league, it seems things might going back to the old ways but that don't mean it'll be all of a sudden be in our favours because other teams have copied the Wenger model and have scouts all over the world.
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    (Original post by TommyWannabe)
    That's because there's not a lot of point speculating, frankly.

    Have you ever in your Arsenal supporting life predicted a signing before it was announced in the media?
    There's a difference between speculating and suggesting.

    Speculating would be bandling about names like Cahill/Given/Hazard, that the media come up with every day.

    It's no different to predicting the outcome of a game, tbf.
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    (Original post by 419)
    No, Henry was 21/22 when he came.
    Wenger has always stuck with the old model. But, he was able to get away with it back then because other teams weren't spending money then but then came Ambromovich and recently with Citeh. (You can't race a Renault Clio against a Bugatti Veyron. )

    Now with the UEFA Finiancial play league, it seems things might going back to the old ways but that don't mean it'll be all of a sudden be in our favours because other teams have copied the Wenger model and have scouts all over the world.
    Hm. My bad.

    I haven't thought this through entirely but i'm sure there's something missing in the formula but I can't work it out. Something has changed with Wenger's attitude. I can't pin point it.
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    (Original post by marcusmerehay)
    It's a good point. When chopping and changing players you need to think about who to bring in.

    I've mentioned before that at the back I'd (realistically) recommend Vrsaljko, van der Wiel or Spahic (temporary).

    Not really sure who to look at for midfield, best options are probably in France though (Valbuena?), as Bundesliga options like Kagawa are almost certainly too expensive.

    For wingers don't forget that we have Miyaichi coming back from Feyenoord at the end of the season, although I'd like us to look at Milos Krasic at Juventus, he's a quality player.

    Striker-wise I'm not sure what we need. A versatile target man would be good, but we've got Chamakh already and he doesn't really suit our style. Cavani is banging the goals in for Napoli and I wouldn't be surprised to see N'Doye (Copenhagen) in the Premier League next season.
    Cavani and Krasic will not come to Arsenal they are both worth at least 20 mil and have not even played a season in their current teams.Valbuena would command a fee of at least 15 mil.Kagawa is in a Borussia team that look like they could be a force in the CL.Realistically in attacking options Arsenal could go for Jeremy Menez.
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    (Original post by MoMatrix)
    Cavani and Krasic will not come to Arsenal they are both worth at least 20 mil and have not even played a season in their current teams.Valbuena would command a fee of at least 15 mil.Kagawa is in a Borussia team that look like they could be a force in the CL.
    We signed Koscielny, didn't we?
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    (Original post by marcusmerehay)
    We signed Koscielny, didn't we?
    Koscielny came from Lorient and came for £8m.Cavani and Krasic play for bigger teams and cost at least double.............
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    (Original post by keira)
    If we had spent an extra £2m on Xabi Alonso, we'd be champions.
    No we wouldn't have. We need leaders, and Xabi won't solve that.
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    (Original post by T.Adams VI)
    No we wouldn't have. We need leaders, and Xabi won't solve that.
    He's not a leader? I'd always assumed he was a really well liked player at liverpool the players looked up to.
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    (Original post by keira)
    He's not a leader? I'd always assumed he was a really well liked player at liverpool the players looked up to.
    He's more Laissez-faire like most cultured DMs are.
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    (Original post by Kevmeister)
    Arshavin wasn't a summer signing. I'll say that Wenger won't sign a midfielder unless Cesc leaves, tbh.
    We're not in crying need of a midfielder though. Nasri fills in for Cesc when he is not fit. And Denilson/Ramsey can fill in for Wilshere/Song. We clearly need better backups in midfield, but it is not one of our major priorities given the strengths of the first 3. Also Ramsey deserves to be given the chance, because he can be quality. But Wenger will spend elsewhere in the squad this summer, I'm certain of it.
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    (Original post by T.Adams VI)
    Ship out 3 of Bendtner/Eboue/Denilson/Diaby/Vela/Rosicky, and recoup ~ 12m. Bring in Contrao and Hazard. Turn Walcott into a striker.


    So when RvP is not fit, we can do this:


    Hazard Walcott Nasri

    Wilshere Song Fabregas

    Contreao Vermaelen Koscielny Sagna

    Chesney



    :coma:
    You think Walcott can lead the line on his own?
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    (Original post by T.Adams VI)
    Xabi isn't a leader, he's more Laissez-faire like most cultured DMs are.
    Hm. I'd imagine he would be like what Pires would have been if had stayed on Pires had stayed on, just because he doesn't shout and scream like Campbell would've doesn't mean he couldn't control the pace of the game, slowing it down or speeding it up as he wished. So giving Arsenal some level of control. And that is evidently what's missing from the team. The ability to keep a cool head under pressure and controlling the pace.
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    (Original post by keira)
    Hm. I'd imagine he would be like what Pires would have been if had stayed on Pires had stayed on, just because he doesn't shout and scream like Campbell would've doesn't mean he couldn't control the pace of the game, slowing it down or speeding it up as he wished. So giving Arsenal some level of control. And that is evidently what's missing from the team. The ability to keep a cool head under pressure and controlling the pace.
    Which is exactly what Cesc does :yy:
 
 
 
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