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Only just got to watch it and, yeah, it was good. It was definitely the best episode of this series, but still it felt too rushed. I think someone on here suggested that it should have been a two-parter, and I totally agree as it would have allowed them to really develop on the Ponds' departure. Still, this episode had some really powerful moments, like seeing old-man Rory on the bed and that whole scene, and the Doctor (or Amy) reading the last page of the book, and the Doctor's anger and frustration when he found out that Amy would be leaving. The acting was brilliant, but I guess the acting is never really the problem in this series, it's mostly just the underdeveloped plot lines. Overall, it was good. Not as emotional as I thought it was going to be, but still a good episode.
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(Original post by xanthippe)
Aaaa just watched the episode on BBC iPlayer.

THOSE. BABIES. OH GOD. O___O

I'm not sure which are more terrifying, the babies or the silence.
The Silence are epic. They're so scary, but at least they just look like scream masks! Those little baby angels were horrific. Especially the one that blew the match out.
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(Original post by Feefifofum)
Well, there have been 5 episodes:
1 - Daleks
2 - Alien baddie
3 - Cyborg
4 - Cubes - but also people with weird faces stealing people from hospitals, and an alien with cracked skin
5 - Angels/statues

So it's really only the last 2 that have had non-animate monsters. It is generally true though that there's a trend away from having a visibly alien monster-baddie.
Loved the angels the most of them all. I wonder when the cybermen will return. I do agree with the above view that some of the monsters are a bit inanimate. Death by cubes really isn't a threat. I want them to bring the oldens back. Like, The Daleks, Cybermen, The Silence, and all them. I know they have to space them out so they don't permanently use them, but some of the monsters are just odd. Cubes for example... :confused:
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(Original post by lizolove)
The Silence are epic. They're so scary, but at least they just look like scream masks! Those little baby angels were horrific. Especially the one that blew the match out.
The silence are the most awful thing I've ever seen in a tv series. Seriously.

A friend of mine once almost scared me to death by drawing those kind of marks on me after I'd passed out. The horror.
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(Original post by Feefifofum)
Well, there have been 5 episodes:
1 - Daleks
2 - Alien baddie
3 - Cyborg
4 - Cubes - but also people with weird faces stealing people from hospitals, and an alien with cracked skin
5 - Angels/statues

So it's really only the last 2 that have had non-animate monsters. It is generally true though that there's a trend away from having a visibly alien monster-baddie.
(Original post by snowyowl)
The very first episode of this series was Asylum of the Daleks, did you not see it?
Oh, I see no, I didn't. There was another Smith episode a while back with inanimate enemies also, which put me off the rest, and it looks like I missed the 'good' ones, lol. As for the odd people stealing people from hospitals, I don't really count them - there's too many plot holes in the cube episode, like whatever happened to those cube people and so on. It just felt like nothing compared to the Daleks, Cybermen, etc.
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(Original post by xanthippe)
The silence are the most awful thing I've ever seen in a tv series. Seriously.

A friend of mine once almost scared me to death by drawing those kind of marks on me after I'd passed out. The horror.
OH MY GOD. :eek:
How hilariously cruel!
I was edgy yesterday when I walked past a grave yard... I can only imagine how you felt. (':
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(Original post by coopsyy)
Love Amy and Rory, hate Matt Smith...can't be the only one?

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Matt Smith is great! and Amy was just as great .. Rory is debatable, but his role was always to be the bumbling companion.
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(Original post by getfunky!)
Matt Smith is great! and Amy was just as great .. Rory is debatable, but his role was always to be the bumbling companion.
Nah, Rory was like Neville Longbottom. Starts off bumbling and a bit useless, but by the end he was kick-ass and saved the day by figuring out how to create the paradox.
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(Original post by Feefifofum)
Nah, Rory was like Neville Longbottom. Starts of bumbling and a bit useless, but by the end he was kick-ass and saved the day by figuring out how to create the paradox.
:ditto:

My ending for HP with Neville triumphing was totally more kick-ass than the actual ending :sad:
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(Original post by Feefifofum)
Nah, Rory was like Neville Longbottom. Starts off bumbling and a bit useless, but by the end he was kick-ass and saved the day by figuring out how to create the paradox.
He was reliable, funny, and clever in his own way:moon:
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exactly! creepy stuff always scares me most tbh! horror doesn't always but if something creeps me out it stays with me much longer! :eek: I hope you got out of the cemetery without being zapped back in time then!

could be yeah, they never explained the daleks return either so they don't seem as fussed with continuity this series (which is a bit of a pain but hopefully they correct it in future), he sure doesn't have much luck on that front! I think it's nice they got to live out their lives together though
I guess angels were lazy back then it's a good thing I didn't watch Dr Who back then- I would have been even more scared
I think them living their lives together was really sweet and touching. I understand Amy's sacrifice- after all, where else would she find someone who would guard her for 2000 years :moon:
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(Original post by AutVinceriAutMori)
I guess angels were lazy back then it's a good thing I didn't watch Dr Who back then- I would have been even more scared
I think them living their lives together was really sweet and touching. I understand Amy's sacrifice- after all, where else would she find someone who would guard her for 2000 years :moon:
just as well! you a relatively new fan then? yeah, it was very sweet and stuff, true love and stuff :moon:
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Love being negged for giving an opinion :rolleyes:

Anyway, I just feel it went downhill with Matt Smith, because they changed everything - tardis, theme tune etc, no continuing storyline really. I think if it had stayed as RTD and hadn't changed things like that, Matt Smith would have grown on me.

Also, he's the youngest actor to play the doctor, but lately when they do closeups, his face makes him look a lot older than he is. Anyone else noticed this?

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Love being negged for giving an opinion :rolleyes:
I often find the negs rather silly on some comments but not unexpected.

In this case I have put a neg on your post for reasons I will explain
Anyway, I just feel it went downhill with Matt Smith, because they changed everything - tardis, theme tune etc,
no continuing storyline really. I think if it had stayed as RTD and hadn't changed things like that, Matt Smith would have grown on me.
and this is why I have negged you. You have never watched doctor who before the David Tennant have you?

I mean the tardis always changes over the course of the series. There was one part of Tom Bakers run where they just went for a dark wood panel tardis design.

The theme tune frequently changes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcHgI_TIYQ

Did RTD have any continuing story? He seemed to think a story arch meant mention something a few times in a handful of episodes to have the final ep that connected to the thing that got mentioned.

Doctor who has been running for such a long time that continuity really is not that important. I mean this is a long running series that has managed to destroy Atlantis twice in two different ways.

Change is an important part of the series and while some may work better than others with others being ummm.... pretty damn uncomfortable to sit through. The first time Colin Baker is introduced after his regeneration he accuses his companion of being an evil spy and then tries to strangle her...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnodQTzi700
To be fair he was only like that in the immediate episode post regeneration and yes that was the costume he wore throughout both series he was in....

But yes change is an important part of doctor who. The show needs to change to remain fresh and interesting while also being accessible to new audiences.
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You have never watched doctor who before the David Tennant have you?.
I've watched it since it restarted with Christoper Eccleston. I haven't watched any of the classic series', quite simply because it was before I was born and I've never seen a need or want to.

So, I was referring to changes since they revived the programme, with RTD.

So feel free to neg me all you want.
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(Original post by coopsyy)
I've watched it since it restarted with Christoper Eccleston. I haven't watched any of the classic series', quite simply because it was before I was born and I've never seen a need or want to.

So, I was referring to changes since they revived the programme, with RTD.

So feel free to neg me all you want.
Change is a key aspect of the show. I can understand why you have such issue if it has only been new who you have watched, but the show has run a lot longer than the RTD/Moffat.

Writers change and the actors change. It has to change as the programme is so long running.

At the end of the day change has been mostly for the good. ok I hated the majority of RTD episodes and I am very glad the show has changed in my opinion for the better with Moffat as lead writer. Change keeps breathing new life into the series and even rough patches with RTD and while Colin Baker was the doctor (to be fair I rather liked his darker portrayal of the doctor and the biggest issue was the writing plus budget cuts) there are a few gems to be found.

I would really recommend you give the classic series a go. Maybe give 'The seeds of doom' a try (very good story with a silly name).
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(Original post by Politics Student)
I often find the negs rather silly on some comments but not unexpected.

In this case I have put a neg on your post for reasons I will explain

and this is why I have negged you. You have never watched doctor who before the David Tennant have you?

I mean the tardis always changes over the course of the series. There was one part of Tom Bakers run where they just went for a dark wood panel tardis design.

The theme tune frequently changes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcHgI_TIYQ

Did RTD have any continuing story? He seemed to think a story arch meant mention something a few times in a handful of episodes to have the final ep that connected to the thing that got mentioned.

Doctor who has been running for such a long time that continuity really is not that important. I mean this is a long running series that has managed to destroy Atlantis twice in two different ways.

Change is an important part of the series and while some may work better than others with others being ummm.... pretty damn uncomfortable to sit through. The first time Colin Baker is introduced after his regeneration he accuses his companion of being an evil spy and then tries to strangle her...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnodQTzi700
To be fair he was only like that in the immediate episode post regeneration and yes that was the costume he wore throughout both series he was in....

But yes change is an important part of doctor who. The show needs to change to remain fresh and interesting while also being accessible to new audiences.
Just because something has happened before (known or unknown) doesn't make it good. Also, I don't see why people have to have watched every episode ever of Doctor Who before they are allowed an opinion; making judgements based on the new series is perfectly acceptable - and I agree that there seem to be more plot holes in series 6 onwards than series 1-5. Some things could have been much better explained or explained earlier - RTD usually wrapped things up nicely, where SM has left things open for 1/2+ series - some people don't like that.
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(Original post by rmhumphries)
Just because something has happened before (known or unknown) doesn't make it good. Also, I don't see why people have to have watched every episode ever of Doctor Who before they are allowed an opinion; making judgements based on the new series is perfectly acceptable - and I agree that there seem to be more plot holes in series 6 onwards than series 1-5. Some things could have been much better explained or explained earlier - RTD usually wrapped things up nicely, where SM has left things open for 1/2+ series - some people don't like that.
Thank you. Don't see why its so unacceptable to have not seen any of the classic series, when most of us weren't even alive.

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Yeah, finally saw it. Terrific episode.
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Thank you. Don't see why its so unacceptable to have not seen any of the classic series, when most of us weren't even alive
I was alive but a few years old when the show ended, I knew what Dr Who was though and when the new series came on I got a few dvds of it from Lovefilm and liked it.

I would say though that with the bulk of information out there about the show its kinda silly to not know about the show even from Wikipedia.

The classic Who was a total different show and amazing in its own way.
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