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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    If we look at those which need less than a 5% swing (unlikely in one election but can happen over 2 or 3) then it would be the 4 in the north east, Anglesy, Bridgend and Newport West. That would make it 18-18.
    Bridgend?! That's a real shock.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Bridgend?! That's a real shock.
    Needs about a 4% swing.
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    Just cought up with Daily Politics and had to laugh at the Labour MP in the clip..

    MP: Major said he's got 3 *******s in the cabinet.. i don't think he can count.
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    The last couple of days have shown that the clothing retailing industry in this country is in a bad way, and the inability of many people to dress stylishly in slightly above average temperatures is awful. We should also get used to a few more days a year like this given climate change and adapt our infrastructure.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    The last couple of days have shown that the clothing retailing industry in this country is in a bad way, and the inability of many people to dress stylishly in slightly above average temperatures is awful. We should also get used to a few more days a year like this given climate change and adapt our infrastructure.
    Nothing about this country can cope with this weather, nor can it at the other end of the spectrum.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Nothing about this country can cope with this weather, nor can it at the other end of the spectrum.

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    Nothing to do with climate change. It's highly unusual not to have a couple of 30C days during high summer.

    At any rate, La Nina continues to builds and global angular momentum is falling off a cliff so don't be shocked if August feels more like early Autumn.
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    Mays comment about unscrupulous bosses to corbyn was actually quite good.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    The last couple of days have shown that the clothing retailing industry in this country is in a bad way, and the inability of many people to dress stylishly in slightly above average temperatures is awful. We should also get used to a few more days a year like this given climate change and adapt our infrastructure.
    Why not write a motion on it?
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    It aggravates me that people think that because we voted to leave the EU, we somehow voted to end freedom of movement, and so ending that is more important than access to the single market.

    48% who voted remain clearly felt that maintaining freedom of movement was a fair compromise for the benefits of the single market. From the 52% who voted leave, polls show that immigration was their major concern of only a third of them, with many others being more concerned with things like the undemocratic aspects of the EU, the imposition of austerity on countries, the corporate **** sucking and TTIP, (the lies about) the money we send to the EU, and just a general **** you to the establishment ("something had to change". Therefore there is absolutely no evidence that even a majority of leave voters favour stopping freedom of movement to having access to the single market, nevermind a majority of the country as a whole.

    In hindsight the referendum should have been an AV vote with 3 options: Remain in the EU, Leave the EU but join EFTA, or leave the EU and the single market entirely.

    I imagine the second option would have won in that scenario
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    (Original post by cBay)
    It aggravates me that people think that because we voted to leave the EU, we somehow voted to end freedom of movement, and so ending that is more important than access to the single market.

    48% who voted remain clearly felt that maintaining freedom of movement was a fair compromise for the benefits of the single market. From the 52% who voted leave, polls show that immigration was their major concern of only a third of them, with many others being more concerned with things like the undemocratic aspects of the EU, the imposition of austerity on countries, the corporate **** sucking and TTIP, (the lies about) the money we send to the EU, and just a general **** you to the establishment ("something had to change". Therefore there is absolutely no evidence that even a majority of leave voters favour stopping freedom of movement to having access to the single market, nevermind a majority of the country as a whole.

    In hindsight the referendum should have been an AV vote with 3 options: Remain in the EU, Leave the EU but join EFTA, or leave the EU and the single market entirely.

    I imagine the second option would have won in that scenario
    A referendum using AV would have taken forever to calculate the result (probably an extra day after the initial results are confirmed. However I feel that actually staying in would have won in that situation.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    A referendum using AV would have taken forever to calculate the result (probably an extra day after the initial results are confirmed. However I feel that actually staying in would have won in that situation.
    I don't think the time it takes to count is of particular concern when you're making the most important decision in your country's recent history.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    I don't think the time it takes to count is of particular concern when you're making the most important decision in your country's recent history.
    Yes but it would have seen a lot of turmoil in that day.
    Plus if we were doing a ranked system it's better to run a multiplier test then an AV test. Whereby each option would be given 3,2 or 1 points and all the points are then multiplied together. Such methodology rewards consistency and would see the most agreeable decision win. However it wouldn't be equivalent to votes and would ent up as an enormously large number.
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    Caroline Lucas' Proportional Representation Bill rejected by 81 votes to 74. I look forward to seeing the list of MPs who rejected it.
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    Caroline Lucas' Proportional Representation Bill rejected by 81 votes to 74. I look forward to seeing the list of MPs who rejected it.
    Rejected at first reading?
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    (Original post by cBay)
    It aggravates me that people think that because we voted to leave the EU, we somehow voted to end freedom of movement, and so ending that is more important than access to the single market.

    48% who voted remain clearly felt that maintaining freedom of movement was a fair compromise for the benefits of the single market. From the 52% who voted leave, polls show that immigration was their major concern of only a third of them, with many others being more concerned with things like the undemocratic aspects of the EU, the imposition of austerity on countries, the corporate **** sucking and TTIP, (the lies about) the money we send to the EU, and just a general **** you to the establishment ("something had to change". Therefore there is absolutely no evidence that even a majority of leave voters favour stopping freedom of movement to having access to the single market, nevermind a majority of the country as a whole.

    In hindsight the referendum should have been an AV vote with 3 options: Remain in the EU, Leave the EU but join EFTA, or leave the EU and the single market entirely.

    I imagine the second option would have won in that scenario
    I doubt that the Electoral Commission would have accepted that proposal though, because it is unfairly weighted towards leaving the EU, two options proposing that vs. the one option not.
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    ****ing hell.

    Westminster voting intention:
    CON: 40% (+10)
    LAB: 29% (-4)
    UKIP: 12% (-8)
    LDEM: 9% (+3)
    GRN: 3% (-)
    (via YouGov / 17-18/07)
    Chgs. from April

    Seems like a big bunch of kippers are returning to the Tories now they've got what they wanted. Apart from that, general Labour incompetence might mean the Tories are taking some of the swing voters?
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    This is quite interesting: http://boardreader.com/fp/The_Studen...s_9355611.html
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    Westminster voting intention:
    CON: 40% (+10)
    LAB: 29% (-4)
    UKIP: 12% (-8)
    LDEM: 9% (+3)
    GRN: 3% (-)
    (via YouGov / 17-18/07)
    Chgs. from April

    No typo

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Westminster voting intention:
    CON: 40% (+10)
    LAB: 29% (-4)
    UKIP: 12% (-8)
    LDEM: 9% (+3)
    GRN: 3% (-)
    (via YouGov / 17-18/07)
    Chgs. from April

    No typo

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    TF's already put this up.
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    Westminster voting intention:
    CON: 40% (+10)
    LAB: 29% (-4)
    UKIP: 12% (-8)
    LDEM: 9% (+3)
    GRN: 3% (-)
    (via YouGov / 17-18/07)
    Chgs. from April
 
 
 
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