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    what points did you include for the liberalism 45 marker?
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    (Original post by Zilein)
    Why do socialist promote a evolutionary road to gradualism (something like that if not that)
    Was it not something along the lines of "why do some socialists favour an evolutionary road to socialism" rather than "...to gradualism" - I mean i talked about gradulism in my answer, but did the question mention the word gradualism in it?
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    (Original post by MouseyBrown)
    What was the wording of the last socialism 15 marker - anyone remember?
    I thought it was "why do they support the evolutionary road to socialism" (rather than 'evolutionary road to gradualism' as someone said) - I'm now worrying I misread it!!!
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    Can you still get a good mark if you only mention thinkers rarely and instead just talk about the different features of what they're asking?

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    (Original post by qwertyasdfghj)
    I thought it was "why do they support the evolutionary road to socialism" (rather than 'evolutionary road to gradualism' as someone said) - I'm now worrying I misread it!!!
    Yeah it didn't mention gradualism in the question.

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    (Original post by dfradkin)
    is it fine if my 45 on the new right was a bit one sided?

    this is what i wrote:
    divided: human nature- individualist vs negative, society- atomistic vs values/authority (forgot about organic society, how bad is that?), attitude to reform - radical vs pragmatic, supranationalism vs nationalism
    united: politically- neoconservatism helps maintain free market and property emphasised by neoliberalism
    guys please! would an essay with 3 vs 1 arguments be penalized?
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    (Original post by lilmizzdilz)
    what points did you include for the liberalism 45 marker?
    for they are divided:
    minimal state vs enabling state
    economic liberalism vs economic management
    egoistical individualism vs developmental (reflected in their belief for the role of the state)
    positive vs negative freedom (influences their belief on the role of the state)
    for they are not divided:
    they both believe in state intervention to an extent
    they both believe that the role of the state should be to enforce one type of freedom
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    Anyone have a past paper summary for 4B
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    unit 4d predictions?
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    In the evolutionary road to socialism 15 marker, I basically wrote about how they want evolutionary rather than revolutionary because revolutionary gets rid of capitalism completely, and replaces it with a qualitatively different system, which revisionist socialists don't want as they realize the necessity for capitalism to generate wealth so just want to reform it which can be done through evolutionary means. Then I went on to talk about the inevitability of gradualism, and then, in a third paragraph, I mentioned how they would also support the evolutionary road because they do think that the state is a neutral arbiter rather than a state in the interests of the bourgeoisie so can reform gradually, and evolve rather than have to have a revolution etc. Is this ok? Or was the whole answer meant to be wholly centered around gradualism?
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    For Pressure group 15 marker. Did people talk about roles such as representation, education etc. Or did they talk about iron triangles, revolving door and direct action??
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    (Original post by lilmizzdilz)
    what points did you include for the liberalism 45 marker?
    - Minimal State vs Enabling State
    - Negative Freedom vs Positive Freedom
    - Egotistical individualism vs developmental individualism
    - They both believe that the state is a necessary evil
    - Necessary: to protect life liberty and property. Social contract to ensure that there is not a state of nature
    - Evil: State can encroach on the rights and liberties of the individual.
    - Threw in something about constitutionalism somewhere in here and then linked it to CL belief in minimal state lol

    Concluded that they disagreed over the role of the state to a great extent.
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    For evolutionary road to socialism,
    I put:
    Para 1: revolution has been associated with oppression and dictatorship
    Para 2: a growing content middle class and shrinking working class has meant that there may not be enough people to carry out a successful revolution
    Para 3: the best way of dealing with capitalism is not to over throw it through s revolution but rather to revise it by extending legal and political rights to workers
    Para 4: workers would be naturally drawn to socialist parties, ensuring political success for socialism whereby they can carry out reform and thus socialism is achieved
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    (Original post by jim80james123)
    for they are divided:
    minimal state vs enabling state
    economic liberalism vs economic management
    egoistical individualism vs developmental (reflected in their belief for the role of the state)
    positive vs negative freedom (influences their belief on the role of the state)
    for they are not divided:
    they both believe in state intervention to an extent
    they both believe that the role of the state should be to enforce one type of freedom
    Did you talk about Darwinism ? Or was that not needed
    Looking at your answers I'm scared now haha
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    (Original post by phantomspecialist)
    - Minimal State vs Enabling State
    - Negative Freedom vs Positive Freedom
    - Egotistical individualism vs developmental individualism
    - They both believe that the state is a necessary evil
    - Necessary: to protect life liberty and property. Social contract to ensure that there is not a state of nature
    - Evil: State can encroach on the rights and liberties of the individual.
    - Threw in something about constitutionalism somewhere in here and then linked it to CL belief in minimal state lol

    Concluded that they disagreed over the role of the state to a great extent.
    Hmm I'm not sure about my answer now
    I wrote that they are not in major disagreement because modern times requires a state but they still put the individual over society.

    Feel like I've failed now. Oh no
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    (Original post by xxvine)
    Did you talk about Darwinism ? Or was that not needed
    Looking at your answers I'm scared now haha
    I didn't mention Darwinism because I had trouble thinking of how they are not divided haha! Mines really unbalanced; so I wouldn't go by my answers :P I'm sure Darwinism and meritocracy etc is a viable point for sure!
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    (Original post by _Dreamville_)
    Yeah it didn't mention gradualism in the question.

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    No it didn't... but it was still basically asking why evolution/gradualism instead of revolution.
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    did anyone on here do unit 3D? want to talk to someone about my answers because i'm not sure if i went off on a tangent would appreciate some help
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    Liberalism 45 marker
    Intro: definition of liberalism- brief over view on their emphasis on individual liberty etc

    Is a divide
    - negative freedom (freedom from constraint allow the individual to develop, nightwatchman etc) and positive freedoms (role of the state welfare provision and how state should help those unable to help themselves etc)
    -modern and classical views of the roles of intervention so minimallistic or not
    - modern and classical view of type of govt democracy so direct and representative and I talked about the pros and cons of each
    - I also mentioned neo liberal view of free markets but wasn't sure if that was right?

    Not a divide
    -individual freedom and liberty is priority
    -their emphasis on merit
    - I linked in social Darwinism and counteracted it with modern thinking using Greens quote of poverty
    -how liberals fear an arbituary govt and prefer limited govt I backed each point up with political thinkers

    I can't remember what else I added in but this is the gist of it
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    (Original post by xxvine)
    Hmm I'm not sure about my answer now
    I wrote that they are not in major disagreement because modern times requires a state but they still put the individual over society.

    Feel like I've failed now. Oh no
    I said something along the lines of "although all liberals do believe in the need for a state in order to protect the rights and liberties of the individual and to ensure that liberty does not become licence, they disagree over the role of the state to a great extent as CL endorse a minimal state, which underpins the ideas of negative freedom and freedom of choice, whereas ML endorse an enabling state, which underpins the ideas of positive freedom and human flourishing".

    So what you said isn't wrong, I just summed up all my arguments at the end into a "they are united, however..."
 
 
 
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