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    Junk food costs the NHS more than cigs/alcohol.
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Junk food costs the NHS more than cigs/alcohol.
    I don't need facts, just back me up pls.

    Fk is right, ban alcohol.

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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    I'm talking about refined added sugar though...not some complex carbohydrate that eventually metabolises to a key bodily fuel. It's not essential, why do we need to add sugar to things? Is that how people used to eat many many years ago?

    Red wine in moderation has more health benefits than refined sugar.

    Alcoholism can lead to rape/domestic violence if not consumed responsibily...in the same way sugar can lead to diabetes and obesity, and a whole range of health problems which if you knew cause more deaths in the world than alcohol related deaths.
    Agree on the refined sugar points tbh. I don't eat chocolates or sweet things anyway really (very very rarely) so a ban wouldn't bother me too much.

    Thing with alcohol is people get addicted, and then it's hard for them to drink in moderation. Also it doesn't do any good to the world, so may as well be prohibited.


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    (Original post by Isometrix)
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    Also those with diet related type 2 Diabetes should have to find treatment themselves.


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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Junk food costs the NHS more than cigs/alcohol.
    And the other two are heavily taxed so the costs are covered anyway.
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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    Explain to me how I'm trolling when I make statements backed up with scientific facts.

    Agree with fat people but only those who don't actively seek to reduce their weight/ suffer from genetic disorders.


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    When you said that Alcohol should be prohibited was when I determined you were trolling.

    Prohibition of drugs has not worked in anyway and we've seen how prohibiting Alcohol in a western country worked before in 1920s America. There's scientific facts that it lead to gangster rings, corruption(MPs will rely on gangsters to import alcohol e.g. so they get away with their criminal acts) and more stuff.

    Anyway I've killed you anyway so no need to get into this more.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    When you said that Alcohol should be prohibited was when I determined you were trolling.

    Prohibition of drugs has not worked in anyway and we've seen how prohibiting Alcohol in a western country worked before in 1920s America. There's scientific facts that it lead to gangster rings, corruption(MPs will rely on gangsters to import alcohol e.g. so they get away with their criminal acts) and more stuff.

    Anyway I've killed you anyway so no need to get into this more.
    Times have changed. I say let the ****ers make illegal alcohol which isn't brewed properly anyway and then if they die it's on their own heads. They can pay for their own treatment and be consequential.

    From that I assume you would be open to the legalisation of drugs? Interesting viewpoint. I would say, in accordance with Sharia Law, it should stay banned.

    Tl;Dr drugs and alcohol are a disease to the world and to the system.


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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    Agree on the refined sugar points tbh. I don't eat chocolates or sweet things anyway really (very very rarely) so a ban wouldn't bother me too much.

    Thing with alcohol is people get addicted, and then it's hard for them to drink in moderation. Also it doesn't do any good to the world, so may as well be prohibited.


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    Same could be said about religion, but you practice religion do you not?
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    (Original post by Fideo)
    And the other two are heavily taxed so the costs are covered anyway.
    I doubt that's where the tax money goes :lol:

    And it wouldn't be enough anyway
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    (Original post by jam277)
    When you said that Alcohol should be prohibited was when I determined you were trolling.

    Prohibition of drugs has not worked in anyway and we've seen how prohibiting Alcohol in a western country worked before in 1920s America. There's scientific facts that it lead to gangster rings, corruption(MPs will rely on gangsters to import alcohol e.g. so they get away with their criminal acts) and more stuff.

    Anyway I've killed you anyway so no need to get into this more.
    Jam I have mad respect for you bro but I hate when you use the sameword twice in a sentence like anyway I've killed you anyway


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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Same could be said about religion, but you practice religion do you not?
    That's a very very very debatable point.

    Also why have you assumed I do?


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    (Original post by Fizzel)
    Standard summer-winter set up. I think people who say they don't like beer just need to commit tbh. I know a number of people who just forced themselves for a holiday or something and it changed their mind. I think for many its an acquired taste. I do like how you can drink over a longer period though, cider in summer is a classic. If there is football like England or something on that evening, having drinks over 4-5 hours building up is so much nicer.

    Went to Croatia a couple of years back, beer there was cheaper than water. You'd pay more for 250ml of bottled water with a meal than a 600ml odd of beer. Wasn't great quality but was local.
    You tried this stuff in winter?



    Nice drop. 2.8% I think so no chance of getting pissed, but it's good.
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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    That's a very very very debatable point.

    Also why have you assumed I do?


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    You said before you don't drink because you were strict muslim crew..

    you also literally referenced the sharia law a few posts above :holmes:
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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    I doubt that's where the tax money goes :lol:

    And it wouldn't be enough anyway
    lol what? How does it not go there

    It's more than enough https://fullfact.org/factchecks/does...treasury-29288
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    Lol at times have changed what makes people think that gangsters can't make good alcohol now it's 2014 not 1924. **** it I know 15 year olds who've made decent alcohol before now what makes people think that a bunch of gangsters can't make decent alcohol off info from google.
    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Same could be said about religion, but you practice religion do you not?
    The thing is that religion is very much detrimental to society. There was a time and a place for it and that was the 1800s.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Lol at times have changed what makes people think that gangsters can't make good alcohol now it's 2014 not 1924. **** it I know 15 year olds who've made decent alcohol before now what makes people think that a bunch of gangsters can't make decent alcohol off info from google.
    Vast majority of people won't drink if it's banned. Only chavs and cretins will and I say **** em then. If it brews wrong and they die then fine. If it goes right then good luck to them but they shouldn't expect free NHS treatment.
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    (Original post by Fideo)
    lol what? How does it not go there

    It's more than enough https://fullfact.org/factchecks/does...treasury-29288
    So the treasury takes rakes in £12bn from tobacco sales, £14.6bn from alcohol.

    It's not enough to cover obesity cost that is £47bn/year. The article you posted above says its enough to fund the cost of running the NHS. Currently they're only spending £6bn to treat obesity, which is what I meant when I said not all of that tax will obviously be going to treat it.
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    (Original post by IceJJFish(II))
    Vast majority of people won't drink if it's banned. Only chavs and cretins will and I say **** em then. If it brews wrong and they die then fine. If it goes right then good luck to them but they shouldn't expect free NHS treatment.
    What about treatment for bipolar disorder for religious people then even though it's no longer mandatory to believe in a religion?
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    (Original post by jam277)
    What about treatment for psychopathy for religious people then even though it's no longer mandatory to believe in one?
    I think that those with depression, or any other mental illness, should be treated on the NHS. You?
 
 
 
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