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    And to think this life and all it's wonders and creation just all came from a giant explosion. Absolutely amazing when you think about it.
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    Personally, I think we are closer to the edge than we would think.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    Personally, I think we are closer to the edge than we would think.
    What you mean?
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    It was just an amazing show of passion from the Atletico fans, it was a real force of nature. All of the colours, the atmosphere. "Defend our colours" on banners. I suppose the Man City title win reactions from the fans could be interpreted as similarly euphoric. However, this is somewhat different in that they won in a very financially constricted way, they won the title in a very proud way. This felt complete, even as a neutral.
    Yeah wholeheartedly agree.

    Man City's title win with the best squad and managing to nearly bottle their title win to QPR of all teams isn't amazing. They had the strongest squad by a distance.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    What you mean?
    Not absolute destruction of the human race because that is an overestimation for the foreseeable future.
    But, I see pandemics becoming a lot more of a thing in the future. Obviously, global warming also. We have an overwhelming ability to advance and survive. However, we also have the overwhelming ability to **** ourselves over. Don't think humans will be the ones to deal the biggest blows though in the future, I think nature is the cruelest of all.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    And to think this life and all it's wonders and creation just all came from a giant explosion. Absolutely amazing when you think about it.
    The ultimate mind**** is the universe is still expanding. But what is it expanding into? :holmes:
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    Not absolute destruction of the human race because that is an overestimation for the foreseeable future.
    But, I see pandemics becoming a lot more of a thing in the future. Obviously, global warming also. We have an overwhelming ability to advance and survive. However, we also have the overwhelming ability to **** ourselves over. Don't think humans will be the ones to deal the biggest blows though in the future, I think nature is the cruelest of all.
    I disagree on pandemics, I think that depends on whether people are willing to use biological warfare though.

    This may be arrogant of me but I believe that the human race is the best race of all and that we have dominion over non humans. I wouldn't be averse to colonising another planet and stripping it of it's resources. Guess I'm no different from the United States of America then!
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    (Original post by jam277)
    I disagree on pandemics, I think that depends on whether people are willing to use biological warfare though.

    This may be arrogant of me but I believe that the human race is the best race of all and that we have dominion over non humans. I wouldn't be averse to colonising another planet and stripping it of it's resources. Guess I'm no different from the United States of America then!
    I would not bet against it. Not in the western world, but in certain areas of the globe I would not be sure. And then the chances of that spreading are perfectly possible.

    Pandemics in general, I think it is just as equally likely to become a lot more serious in the western world in the future as it is to be non-threatening. Depends how strains evolve.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    I would not bet against it. Not in the western world, but in certain areas of the globe I won't name sure. And then the chances of that spreading are perfectly possible.

    Pandemics in general, I think it is just as equally likely to become a lot more serious in the western world in the future as it is to be non-threatening. Depends how strains evolve.
    I think we have general control over pandemics, Ebola e.g. while there is no cure it had been declared ebola free in Nigeria as the disease was no longer spreading and any severely effected patient had already died.

    Swine flu, avian flu etc. have all been sorted out it's just propaganda by the media used to fund the pharmaceutical companies, you make more money treating the disease than finding the cure for it.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    I think we have general control over pandemics, Ebola e.g. while there is no cure it had been declared ebola free in Nigeria as the disease was no longer spreading and any severely effected patient had already died.

    Swine flu, avian flu etc. have all been sorted out it's just propaganda by the media used to fund the pharmaceutical companies, you make more money treating the disease than finding the cure for it.
    And SARS? I don't believe it is all propaganda. Our survival against such things can only be assured as far as we have control over them/anticipate them.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    And SARS? I don't believe it is all propaganda. Our survival against such things can only be assured as far as we have control over them/anticipate them.
    Ain't looked too much into SARS.

    But anyway 627,000 people died of malaria in a year. About 5000 people died of ebola outbreak with 10k people infected in 2014. It's clear that one issue is being over represented by the media.

    Malaria could be easily stopped with a few vaccines(I contracted it when I was younger and was fine within a week e.g.) so it's not like we aren't prepared to stop it.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Ain't looked too much into SARS.

    But anyway half a million people died of malaria last year. About 10000 people died of ebola outbreak. It's clear that one issue is being over represented by the media.
    The media are full of ****. This film is a parody of sorts but it is pretty funny to think that the media feeds on newsworthy tragedy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_%28film%29
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    Dunno how many of you fellas have read LOTR but this scene as a kid, but in the books Sam was overcome with courage and met Shelob with a hate that shelob was wary off.


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    Not even joking, was reading Lord Of the Rings last night ans Sam killed shelob and did it
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    A political debate has emerged...well done Jam, I'm here to back you up.

    - All drugs should be fully legalised. Eventually including dealers. United States drug policy has been an absolute disaster on a monumental scale. 2 million young people in prison, and estimated costs of $1tn US dollars a year, and what do they have to show for it, nothing. The people that really want drugs can already get them. These are the economic arguments, there are also moral and social arguments.
    - Prohibition of alcohol in the United States in the 1920s, was an absolute disaster, hence the policy was reversed.

    - The idea of not treating fat people, or not treating people with diabetes is a very slippery slope indeed. Because you say yes, its your fault, so we won't treat you. But where does that end? You were skiing and got in an accident, thats your fault should we not treat you? You were in a car...sometimes a crash is your fault, therefore we won't treat you. That's not the sort of health service I want.
    Sorry for late reply.

    I agree with what you say though. Tbh with fat people there are too many of them to pay for their treatment when it's a very avoidable thing bar for the obvious thyroid problem the main problem lies on education and if they're still ignorant then they should pay the price for it I'm a selective right winger but fatness is something I can't deal with sorry.

    Wrt prohibition thank god it was such a disaster. Weird to think that people from that era still live now wonder how life was back then.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Sorry for late reply.

    I agree with what you say though. Tbh with fat people there are too many of them to pay for their treatment when it's a very avoidable thing bar for the obvious thyroid problem the main problem lies on education and if they're still ignorant then they should pay the price for it I'm a selective right winger but fatness is something I can't deal with sorry.

    Wrt prohibition thank god it was such a disaster. Weird to think that people from that era still live now wonder how life was back then.
    Didn't you create a thread before on tackling obesity?

    Could taxing junk food work?


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    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Didn't you create a thread before on tackling obesity?

    Could taxing junk food work?


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    I guess so same thing with drugs tax it to **** and people can enjoy it just at a price.

    I was trolling in the thread tbh but obesity can be easily solved with education and some willpower.

    Saw some fat sack of crap the other day guys belly couldn't handle the extra extra large and he smelt of fat person scent. Think he bought a giant pack of nandos crisps or doritos not like I'm ****ing surprised thought I was in a USA convenience store.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    I guess so same thing with drugs tax it to **** and people can enjoy it just at a price.

    I was trolling in the thread tbh but obesity can be easily solved with education and some willpower.

    Saw some fat sack of crap the other day guys belly couldn't handle the extra extra large and he smelt of fat person scent. Think he bought a giant pack of nandos crisps or doritos not like I'm ****ing surprised thought I was in a USA convenience store.
    Not really fair as it's perfectly possible to eat junk food regularly and not be fat. The problem is generally overeating more than the types of food. You could have a fat tax of some sort though, doesn't Japan have financial punishments if your waist is too large or something.
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    (Original post by Fideo)
    Not really fair as it's perfectly possible to eat junk food regularly and not be fat. The problem is generally overeating more than the types of food. You could have a fat tax of some sort though, doesn't Japan have financial punishments if your waist is too large or something.
    Yeah do something like that.

    I do like my KFC but that's clear from my genetics.
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    Problem is people just overeat, excessively smoke, drink too much etc with no emotional consequence on their own health. They know they get taken care of well here.

    Need to adopt the Singapore health system, it's sick. They have to set aside a proportion of their income for healthcare, and spend it when they need to like hospital credits. These can be pooled within families. Various services are means tested which means it factors in a persons income so tackles any inequality. Fundamentally people are in charge of their own healthcare and prevents abuse of the healthcare system.


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