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    rah one of those posts so in depth and long, you wonder what someone does for a living
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    Arsenal u-19s have just beaten BVB u-19s 2-0 in Germany. Unreal banter from Arsenal there.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Arsenal u-19s have just beaten BVB u-19s 2-0 in Germany. Unreal banter from Arsenal there.
    I wonder if the youth team share the same flight with the seniors, Wenger and the backroom (i mean coaching) staff?
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    (Original post by shawn_o1)
    I wonder if the youth team share the same flight with the seniors, Wenger and the backroom (i mean coaching) staff?
    Of course they share the same flight. You think Wenger will let the club pay for separate flights when there's no 2 for 1 special offer?
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Hehehe

    It's not the fact that we lost, its' the manner in which we did. What also irritates me is the fact key players for them were out. Anyways, we move on and get ready for the next game.


    Yeah fair enough. Poor performance but im sure you'll bounce back against Villa.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Arsenal u-19s have just beaten BVB u-19s 2-0 in Germany. Unreal banter from Arsenal there.
    Loooooool BVB did this on purpose.
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    I'm not feeling too confident against Aston villa I mean they generally play well against London teams.


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    Benteke back in training aswell
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    (Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)


    Yeah fair enough. Poor performance but im sure you'll bounce back against Villa.
    No high hopes there.

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    Loooooool BVB did this on purpose.
    Trust me.

    (Original post by Numan786)
    I'm not feeling too confident against Aston villa I mean they generally play well against London teams.


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    Benteke back in training aswell
    And this.
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    Surely Benteke wont play?
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    There's a "the arsenal thread" active right now, surely the real one was 10 years ago?
    Sorry, looked like one of the thread posts was deleted by the mods (specifically, the "I'm your dad" nonsense )
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    Guys I just met Drogba on Edgware Road and bought an ounce from him. He asked me where Topman was, so I told him, but also told him there was a sale on at River Island. Oh and I was smoking a fine Cuban cigar at the time, not relevant, just wanted to mention cuz well you'know.



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    (Original post by qua)
    I don't really see the point of dissecting a post into little pieces unless you take point for point or unit of meaning for unit of meaning (rather than the starting sentences of each paragraph, which don't represent the whole point, and only focusing on them rather than the point as a whole), it doesn't really reflect what I wrote.
    I did actually read the whole post I just quoted the first part because it saves a significant amount of space. I haven't replied to every point, just the ones I feel are relevant to my original point. I'd agree the wasting of chances would mainly be attributed to Mkhitaryan rather than Dortmund as a whole. I don't think its worth addressing within the wider point of chances that were squandered in reference to Arsenal being punished for their mistakes.

    But anyway, my main point was simply to contest the notion that Dortmund were "in no way" great/brilliant, regardless of your convo with Arkasia, and not to necessarily contradict all of your points/implications (I don't disagree with all of them). I just don't think that Arsenal being poor or potentially able to win with a different approach to the game takes anything away from Dortmund's performance (even though I agree that similarly, Dortmund's performance is no excuse for Arsenal's), so that was the whole point. I guess it's rather subjective though. But while we're discussing it:
    Fair enough. I don't think there is any need to labour this, but I do think the post quoted (Arkasia's) is inherently relevant to a response.

    It was your "not defensively solid" notion I was contesting, which became clear in my whole paragraph (I used the wrong word(ing) however). I'd say there's some spectrum between "defensive shut out", "defensively solid" and "not defensively solid", so not showing a defensive shut out does not mean that the performance as a whole wasn't solid. I'd say the overall performance was considering how little chances they allowed Arsenal (ofc debatable how much this can be accredited to BVB and how much to Arsenal) and how they isolated Welbeck for the most part, despite the few chances he had (although I'd say only one of those was a sitter).
    I didn't think Dortmund were sloppy or that they didn't limit Arsenal, but the didn't stop them. Arsenal did have chances in the game, which was my point, and they didn't fall to unfavourable players. Whether they were created or gifted doesn't matter in answering the question could Arsenal have scored.

    I don't think the possession stats necessarily correlate with the other aspect of your point. The "benefits that possession brings" aren't automatic and not worth a lot if most of your passing lanes are blocked, the players in advanced areas can't be reached and your build-up play is more of less suffocated by the opponent. So for the most part of the game, BVB did deny them the possession "benefits".
    I don't think there automatic but they are there in a way they cannot be if you don't have the ball. Arsenal cannot play the game they practise week in week out without the ball, they are a passing and possession based side. When you have the ball the onus falls on you to do something with it.

    On top of that, iirc Dortmund were dominating possession until they dropped intensity in the latter stages of the game; it was only from around the middle of the second half that Arsenal got longer and longer spells of possession;
    Well for the first goal, Arsenal were high up the pitch and Dortmund's highest player was Immobile fairly deep in his own half, I think. That's a fair change from the opening minutes where Arsenal were pinned in and around their own box for sustained periods, that was just before the half way point and before Arsenal were chasing the game.

    which was in the last 10 or so minutes further facilitated by Dortmund switching to a formation with 2 defensively-minded CMs/DMs and another DM-CB hybrid between midfield and back 4 and mostly focused on not condeding, allowing Arsenal more time on the ball.
    I don't think Arsenal can complain about that though. The tactic was made viable by taking the lead in the game.

    Again, Arsenal could have dealt with this better and avoided some of these problems, but that doesn't mean that Dortmund weren't great, both in their approach to the opponent and in general.
    Perhaps my wording of 'in now great' was incorrect. From a Dortmund point of view, they there succeeded in all aspect of the their game plan, so all their aims were completed successfully and in that respect it was a great performance.


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    Your qua post monitoring is bordering on fetish tbh.
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    (Original post by swarly)
    Guys I just met Drogba on Edgware Road and bought an ounce from him. He asked me where Topman was, so I told him, but also told him there was a sale on at River Island. Oh and I was smoking a fine Cuban cigar at the time, not relevant, just wanted to mention cuz well you'know.



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    (Original post by swarly)
    Guys I just met Drogba on Edgware Road and bought an ounce from him. He asked me where Topman was, so I told him, but also told him there was a sale on at River Island. Oh and I was smoking a fine Cuban cigar at the time, not relevant, just wanted to mention cuz well you'know.



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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    Why do you care so much?
    you know when cuffin season comes a guy can't help but get all emosh and shizz you feel me?
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    I always said we should have stuck with Gervinho a little longer. He could have been one heck of a player for us now.

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    I'm so jacked on morphine right now after I found out my two gums were infected and had to be scraped after tooth extraction still fill some slight pain tho


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    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    I always said we should have stuck with Gervinho a little longer. He could have been one heck of a player for us now.

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    I'd say some players can only play their absolute best if they are coached by the people they love and trust the most
 
 
 
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