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    (Original post by 419)
    When you've got an agenda to **** on arsenal of course it is.

    As you've seen as well quite a few people are willing to encourage this propaganda.


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    Or maybe different people have different opinions

    Get your head out your ass
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    The big losses weren't anything to do with a dm Tbf

    City it was losing the ball in stupid places/not closing down

    Liverpool set pieces/losing the ball in stupid places again (ozil again)

    Chelsea was awful attacking tactics having 8 men ahead of the ball 10 mins in is pretty funny. Even funnier that the same thing happened 3 times within 10 mins with them breaking on us
    I think against Liverpool and Chelsea we started too gung-ho. If you look at the first couple of goals (Sturridge's and Schurlle's), Gibbs and Sagna left acres of space out wide, leaving only Kosc and Mert against the attack

    But the bottom line was we got blown away in those two games; with City I think 6-3 flattered them.

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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    Or maybe different people have different opinions

    Get your head out your ass
    Wait, you're now going to toe this line. Mr I'm here to call out people's delusion and know it all? :yy:


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    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    I think against Liverpool and Chelsea we started too gung-ho. If you look at the first couple of goals (Sturridge's and Schurlle's), Gibbs and Sagna left acres of space out wide, leaving only Kosc and Mert against the attack

    But the bottom line was we got blown away in those two games; with City I think 6-3 flattered them.

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    They missed loads of chances Tbf 6-3 wasn't flattering
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    (Original post by 419)
    Wait, you're now going to toe this line. Mr I'm here to call out people's delusion and know it all? :yy:


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    I'm just here for the same reason as the rest of you to share my opinion. How about you start respecting my opinion because all I want is what's best for the mighty reds
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    Don't really know why we're bothering with Lars again. Hopefully just paper talk, Wenger isn't one that's persistent and generally knows what no means.

    (Original post by baconbutty)
    I'm just here for the same reason as the rest of you to share my opinion. How about you start respecting my opinion because all I want is what's best for the mighty reds
    I promise you, you're only kidding those people that love their anti arsenal talk.


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    (Original post by 419)
    Don't really know why we're bothering with Lars again. Hopefully just paper talk, Wenger isn't one that's persistent and generally knows what no means.



    I promise you, you're only kidding those people that love their anti arsenal talk.


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    I don't give a rats ass who you think is kidding who the fact of the matter is I'm a fully fledged ****ing gunner

    Do I respect chelsea and city? Yes

    Do I hate van persie, fabregas etc for moving on to better things? No I ****ing don't I was happy van persie won a pl title if any arsenal player deserved it it was him.

    Fabregas is an arsenal legend and if I hear any fans give him **** at the emirates I'm gonna bash some ****ing skulls in
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    (Original post by baconbutty)

    Fabregas is an arsenal legend and if I hear any fans give him **** at the emirates I'm gonna bash some ****ing skulls in

    Most likely you wont
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Most likely you wont
    Ever been to the emirates mate?
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    I don't give a rats ass who you think is kidding who the fact of the matter is I'm a fully fledged ****ing gunner

    Do I respect chelsea and city? Yes

    Do I hate van persie, fabregas etc for moving on to better things? No I ****ing don't I was happy van persie won a pl title if any arsenal player deserved it it was him.

    Fabregas is an arsenal legend and if I hear any fans give him **** at the emirates I'm gonna bash some ****ing skulls in
    Cesc Fabregas is far from an Arsenal Legend....
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    They missed loads of chances Tbf 6-3 wasn't flattering
    So did we.

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    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    So did we.

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    They had far more chances in the game
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    (Original post by Kruz)
    Cesc Fabregas is far from an Arsenal Legend....
    8 years of top class service to the club. He's the reason we have money to spend on the likes of Sanchez, ozil etc now I think he's an arsenal legend
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    I don't give a rats ass who you think is kidding who the fact of the matter is I'm a fully fledged ****ing gunner

    Do I respect chelsea and city? Yes

    Do I hate van persie, fabregas etc for moving on to better things? No I ****ing don't I was happy van persie won a pl title if any arsenal player deserved it it was him.

    Fabregas is an arsenal legend and if I hear any fans give him **** at the emirates I'm gonna bash some ****ing skulls in
    Haha, how can you say Fabregas is a legend. He was a quality player for us, but he captained us and was the heart of the team during our most unsuccessful era. You can't get legendary status that way. I don't doubt for one minute his contribution to the team and his ability but I'm not gonna get sentimental.

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    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    Haha, how can you say Fabregas is a legend. He was a quality player for us, but he captained us and was the heart of the team during our most unsuccessful era. You can't get legendary status that way. I don't doubt for one minute his contribution to the team and his ability but I'm not gonna get sentimental.

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    Because he was the reason the emirates project succeeded there is no ****ing way we'd of stayed top 4 without him. One of our best midfielders ever got a lot of time for him
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    Because he was the reason the emirates project succeeded there is no ****ing way we'd of stayed top 4 without him. One of our best midfielders ever got a lot of time for him
    We stayed in the top four the three years after he left and even finished third once. As I said, I don't doubt his credentials but I'm not prepared to shower him with legendary status.

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    (Original post by qwerty_mad)
    We stayed in the top four the three years after he left and even finished third once. As I said, I don't doubt his credentials but I'm not prepared to shower him with legendary status.

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    If he wasn't here there was honestly no ****ing way we would of finished in the top 4. The year after he left we got ridiculously lucky that spurs and chelsea collapsed and van persie stayed fit all season and the 2 years after that is because we've built a better squad
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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    If he wasn't here there was honestly no ****ing way we would of finished in the top 4. The year after he left we got ridiculously lucky that spurs and chelsea collapsed and van persie stayed fit all season and the 2 years after that is because we've built a better squad
    Honestly, you're chatting a load of **** now.

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    (Original post by alittlehelp)
    It's definitely not totally wrong, everything you've mentioned here is something Ozil is having to do.
    If you don't know the difference between playing football in europe after playing in brazil and playing in europe then you're totally wrong too.

    Neymar was always going to have an average season, he's primarily playing in a counter attacking system for Brazil where he has space to play(even in this tournament you see that happening) while for Barca he's constantly facing parked buses and trying to thread through tight defences who are of a much higher/tactical level than a lot of the international teams and most teams in brazil.
    (Original post by qua)
    What made you chage your mind then? Last time we were discussing him you argued that the way Tata used him on the wing was getting the best/most out of him.

    Also don't see how Alexis seems like that kind of player, AW has been interested in him for a long time even when he didn't need a striker, so I think it's more a case of - player becomes available - snatch him!, like in Özil's case. Don't think it's a question of "forward or Alexis" either, didn't really expect AW to go all out for an expensive top striker anyway (not like there are many available) so buying Alexis doesn't necessarily change anything in that regard.
    Watched Chile vs Brazil, Sanchez had a boss game, drops deep, helps out the midfield, has a good work rate and linked up with the striker and midfielders well. Felt like he was the main way(other than the wing backs) that Chile actually got up the pitch.

    He had a very good game as the creative spark in the middle. I think the way Tata used him on the wing did help, possibly due to the wingers getting more of the ball, more touches of the ball means more chances to actually create and score goals. Rather than passing to Messi at every opportunity hoping for a moment of magic, which was what I watched under Tito. Regardless, Messi is probably a problem for Sanchez, Sanchez isn't a runner, he's a creator. He'll just be an fast upgrade on Cazorla, but again I have problems with Arsenals formation on the left so I'm not worried in the slightest about them getting him. If they got a Ribery type player who can run to the byline on the left and actually feed Giroud crosses as well as cutting in helping with play I'd be a bit more worried about the signing.

    Also doubt they'll get a DM this summer. Honestly he's going to try and fit Jack Wilshere in the first team somewhere.
 
 
 
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