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The Shed End
He passes with his left foot - he passes with his right!
No amount of chanting will distract me from the fact that he looks like a **** Zorro.
Original post by Arkasia
No amount of chanting will distract me from the fact that he looks like a **** Zorro.
And when we win the league again, we'll sing his song all night!
Original post by The Shed End
He wanted to sign for Arsenal, but Arsene said **** that!
changed it for you
We should get Cavani I don't care what anyone says he is world class 7 goals in last 4 games.
Original post by al_94
We should get Cavani I don't care what anyone says he is world class 7 goals in last 4 games.
I wouldn't give more than £35m and Podolski, although I'd rather do that for Reus than for Cavani.
Original post by al_94
So the 'specialist in failure' Wenger has said we will not sign any central defenders in the summer. This is what he said.
Four is enough," Wenger said."(Mathieu) Debuchy can play there, (Nacho) Monreal can play there, so you can say we are not out to buy a central defender."And Gabriel will be a great central defender, believe me."
Four is enough," Wenger said."(Mathieu) Debuchy can play there, (Nacho) Monreal can play there, so you can say we are not out to buy a central defender."And Gabriel will be a great central defender, believe me."
agree with him - we dont need another CB
We have 4 CBs and 2 other defenders who can play there..
More than enough
Original post by fallen_acorns
agree with him - we dont need another CB
We have 4 CBs and 2 other defenders who can play there..
More than enough
We have 4 CBs and 2 other defenders who can play there..
More than enough
Who are you getting then? Or what do you think Wenger wants? I mean will you really sign a striker with Giroud, Welbeck who was only signed last year, and now seemingly Walcott, for one position?
And what about DM? Does Coquelin get benched if you bring in someone like Schneiderlin? Hard to see what Wenger wants to do this summer. You have an absolute tonne of wingers and full backs too.
Original post by hayles101
Who are you getting then? Or what does Wenger want? Will you really sign a striker with Giroud, Welbeck who was only signed last year, and now seemingly Walcott, for one position?
And what about DM? Does Coquelin get benched if you bring in someone like Schneiderlin? Hard to see what Wenger wants to do this summer. You have an absolute tonne of Wenger's and full backs too.
And what about DM? Does Coquelin get benched if you bring in someone like Schneiderlin? Hard to see what Wenger wants to do this summer. You have an absolute tonne of Wenger's and full backs too.
all the gossip seems to be around a foward (pedro being the most rumoured) and a CM (obviously schniderlin gets all the talk)
Those 2 positions seem to be wengers priority, especially as its looking more likely that walcott could leave.
Your right that it is less obvious this year - we have one of the more complete squads we have had in a while, and unlike the last 2-3 summers, there are not absolute 100% must sign gaps in our team..
I would expect to see some departures though - one of flamini or arteta to leave, and be replaced by a better CM, a couple out of Podolski walcott campbel to leave.. sanogo to go on loan again, etc.
Personally I would like us to sign a great goal keeper, as I feel at the moment we just have 2 good keepers, who are both solid, but not up to the standard of our rivals (DDG/Courtoir/Lloris) - but wenger has already ruled this out.
I would think:
Foward (striker, or player who can play striker or on the wing)
CM (not as defensive as coq)
+ a promising youngster or two
Would probably be our summer
Original post by fallen_acorns
agree with him - we dont need another CB
We have 4 CBs and 2 other defenders who can play there..
More than enough
We have 4 CBs and 2 other defenders who can play there..
More than enough
Mertesacker is past it, Koscielny is injury prone, Gabriel I can't judge him I aint seen enough and Chambers is a kid. I would buy another CB especially if he doesn't want a striker.
Original post by al_94
We should get Cavani I don't care what anyone says he is world class 7 goals in last 4 games.
No man. Cavani is good, obviously, but way too inconsistent. He's hit a good form over the last few games but he's been **** otherwise. Didn't you see him vs Chelsea or Barca? Reason why I would rather not go for him is because his price tag will be really ridiculous. He's worth like, £30m max right now imo.
Benteke has 11 goals in 9 games, and in a harder league too.. doesn't make him world class does it?
Honestly, I would be much much happier with Lacazette over Cavani
Original post by al_94
Mertesacker is past it, Koscielny is injury prone, Gabriel I can't judge him I aint seen enough and Chambers is a kid. I would buy another CB especially if he doesn't want a striker.
mert has had a really solid 2nd half to the season - a lot of his problems in the first half can be put down to: world cup fatigue (see most german players) kos' injury, and the dire form our our midfield..
As long as he has kos, mert will do a job of a high-enough standard for us.. but it looks from what wenger is saying, like he will be phased out for gabriel anyway..
Kos is not that injury prone.. he has never had a long-term injury, and has only twice in his career missed more then 1 month.
Gabriel - your right, we cant judge him yet.. but the thing is, if we had not brought gabriel in january, then he is the exact type of player wenger would have brought in the summer.. realistically we were never getting anyone better then him. a defender with a reasonable track record for 10-15m. so really, he is our new signing, the only difference is that wenger got him in january rather then the summer.. which is great as its given him more time to bed in and train with the team, before hopefully he replaces mert.
Chambers is a kid, which is fine for our 4th choice who is barely ever going to play.
A pecking order of:
Kos
Gabriel
Mert
Chambers
(monreal)
(debuchy)
Is pretty good for that area, and the only way I can see it changing is if we were to sell mert. but really, if he does become our 3rd choice, then well, he is more then capable of being our back-up defender
Original post by SA-1
No man. Cavani is good, obviously, but way too inconsistent. He's hit a good form over the last few games but he's been **** otherwise. Didn't you see him vs Chelsea or Barca? Reason why I would rather not go for him is because his price tag will be really ridiculous. He's worth like, £30m max right now imo.
Benteke has 11 goals in 9 games, and in a harder league too.. doesn't make him world class does it?
Honestly, I would be much much happier with Lacazette over Cavani
Benteke has 11 goals in 9 games, and in a harder league too.. doesn't make him world class does it?
Honestly, I would be much much happier with Lacazette over Cavani
Laca would be perfect for us really, I'm just scared Liverpool, Chelsea or United will bid something ridiculous for him.
Original post by SA-1
No man. Cavani is good, obviously, but way too inconsistent. He's hit a good form over the last few games but he's been **** otherwise. Didn't you see him vs Chelsea or Barca? Reason why I would rather not go for him is because his price tag will be really ridiculous. He's worth like, £30m max right now imo.
Benteke has 11 goals in 9 games, and in a harder league too.. doesn't make him world class does it?
Honestly, I would be much much happier with Lacazette over Cavani
Benteke has 11 goals in 9 games, and in a harder league too.. doesn't make him world class does it?
Honestly, I would be much much happier with Lacazette over Cavani
You mean the Cavani who's scored 28 goals in 49 games this season and 25 in 43 last year whilst playing the majority of his games on the wing to accomadate Ibrahimovic? Or the Cavani who, in his last 5 seasons, has scored 33, 33, 38, 25 and 28 goals, especially in Italy where it's notoriously hard to score? You'd be mad to turn him down, mad.
Bit nervous about Swansea since theyre our bogey team really, they actually regularly outplay us in midfield which is annoying. At least no Bony though as he's slapped us about on the regular.
Some of the worst Arsenal home games in recent memories have been vs Swansea actually. the 2-0 loss in 2012/13 was absolutely dreadful in every way and the 1-1 last season wasnt much better.
So not much would surprise me tonight, be nice to get 2nd though but the pressure is off really so might be OK.
I'd go:
Szczesny
Debuchy Gabriel Mertesacker Gibbs
Coquelin Rosicky
Walcott Ozil Sanchez
Giroud
Suspect Rosicky is off in the summer and would be good to see him play live one last time. Then we might want to give Szczesny game time for the Cup, get Debuchy/Walcott back up to speed and give a rest to Koscielny/Cazorla/Monreal. But Wenger tends to pick unchanged line ups when we're on a run so probably wont see any of these bar Walcott.
Some of the worst Arsenal home games in recent memories have been vs Swansea actually. the 2-0 loss in 2012/13 was absolutely dreadful in every way and the 1-1 last season wasnt much better.
So not much would surprise me tonight, be nice to get 2nd though but the pressure is off really so might be OK.
I'd go:
Szczesny
Debuchy Gabriel Mertesacker Gibbs
Coquelin Rosicky
Walcott Ozil Sanchez
Giroud
Suspect Rosicky is off in the summer and would be good to see him play live one last time. Then we might want to give Szczesny game time for the Cup, get Debuchy/Walcott back up to speed and give a rest to Koscielny/Cazorla/Monreal. But Wenger tends to pick unchanged line ups when we're on a run so probably wont see any of these bar Walcott.
Original post by Depleted
You mean the Cavani who's scored 28 goals in 49 games this season and 25 in 43 last year whilst playing the majority of his games on the wing to accomadate Ibrahimovic? Or the Cavani who, in his last 5 seasons, has scored 33, 33, 38, 25 and 28 goals, especially in Italy where it's notoriously hard to score? You'd be mad to turn him down, mad.
Yet in all the big games he flops.
Original post by fallen_acorns
mert has had a really solid 2nd half to the season - a lot of his problems in the first half can be put down to: world cup fatigue (see most german players) kos' injury, and the dire form our our midfield..
As long as he has kos, mert will do a job of a high-enough standard for us.. but it looks from what wenger is saying, like he will be phased out for gabriel anyway..
Kos is not that injury prone.. he has never had a long-term injury, and has only twice in his career missed more then 1 month.
Gabriel - your right, we cant judge him yet.. but the thing is, if we had not brought gabriel in january, then he is the exact type of player wenger would have brought in the summer.. realistically we were never getting anyone better then him. a defender with a reasonable track record for 10-15m. so really, he is our new signing, the only difference is that wenger got him in january rather then the summer.. which is great as its given him more time to bed in and train with the team, before hopefully he replaces mert.
Chambers is a kid, which is fine for our 4th choice who is barely ever going to play.
A pecking order of:
Kos
Gabriel
Mert
Chambers
(monreal)
(debuchy)
Is pretty good for that area, and the only way I can see it changing is if we were to sell mert. but really, if he does become our 3rd choice, then well, he is more then capable of being our back-up defender
As long as he has kos, mert will do a job of a high-enough standard for us.. but it looks from what wenger is saying, like he will be phased out for gabriel anyway..
Kos is not that injury prone.. he has never had a long-term injury, and has only twice in his career missed more then 1 month.
Gabriel - your right, we cant judge him yet.. but the thing is, if we had not brought gabriel in january, then he is the exact type of player wenger would have brought in the summer.. realistically we were never getting anyone better then him. a defender with a reasonable track record for 10-15m. so really, he is our new signing, the only difference is that wenger got him in january rather then the summer.. which is great as its given him more time to bed in and train with the team, before hopefully he replaces mert.
Chambers is a kid, which is fine for our 4th choice who is barely ever going to play.
A pecking order of:
Kos
Gabriel
Mert
Chambers
(monreal)
(debuchy)
Is pretty good for that area, and the only way I can see it changing is if we were to sell mert. but really, if he does become our 3rd choice, then well, he is more then capable of being our back-up defender
Mertesacker's 1st half of the season was probably the worst run of performances from an Arsenal CB in about 10 years. His mind just wasnt there really but he's picked it up.
Mertesacker is basically good to play vs the average teams, particularly those that play direct and physical. And he's actually brilliant at defending leads deep so handy to fling on from the bench as 3rd choice too.
Loads of people seem to dislike the idea of Gabriel and Kosc playing together because they're similar players and neither is particularly tall but they've looked solid to me, Gabriel just needs to learn how to cover for Koscielny when he moves up to intercept or press.
Original post by fallen_acorns
mert has had a really solid 2nd half to the season - a lot of his problems in the first half can be put down to: world cup fatigue (see most german players) kos' injury, and the dire form our our midfield..
As long as he has kos, mert will do a job of a high-enough standard for us.. but it looks from what wenger is saying, like he will be phased out for gabriel anyway..
Kos is not that injury prone.. he has never had a long-term injury, and has only twice in his career missed more then 1 month.
Gabriel - your right, we cant judge him yet.. but the thing is, if we had not brought gabriel in january, then he is the exact type of player wenger would have brought in the summer.. realistically we were never getting anyone better then him. a defender with a reasonable track record for 10-15m. so really, he is our new signing, the only difference is that wenger got him in january rather then the summer.. which is great as its given him more time to bed in and train with the team, before hopefully he replaces mert.
Chambers is a kid, which is fine for our 4th choice who is barely ever going to play.
A pecking order of:
Kos
Gabriel
Mert
Chambers
(monreal)
(debuchy)
Is pretty good for that area, and the only way I can see it changing is if we were to sell mert. but really, if he does become our 3rd choice, then well, he is more then capable of being our back-up defender
As long as he has kos, mert will do a job of a high-enough standard for us.. but it looks from what wenger is saying, like he will be phased out for gabriel anyway..
Kos is not that injury prone.. he has never had a long-term injury, and has only twice in his career missed more then 1 month.
Gabriel - your right, we cant judge him yet.. but the thing is, if we had not brought gabriel in january, then he is the exact type of player wenger would have brought in the summer.. realistically we were never getting anyone better then him. a defender with a reasonable track record for 10-15m. so really, he is our new signing, the only difference is that wenger got him in january rather then the summer.. which is great as its given him more time to bed in and train with the team, before hopefully he replaces mert.
Chambers is a kid, which is fine for our 4th choice who is barely ever going to play.
A pecking order of:
Kos
Gabriel
Mert
Chambers
(monreal)
(debuchy)
Is pretty good for that area, and the only way I can see it changing is if we were to sell mert. but really, if he does become our 3rd choice, then well, he is more then capable of being our back-up defender
Well you have a point if you're talking about 4th place.If we are to compete with Chelsea for the league title next season then I believe we need to sign a better defender than Mertesacker.
Original post by Depleted
You mean the Cavani who's scored 28 goals in 49 games this season and 25 in 43 last year whilst playing the majority of his games on the wing to accomadate Ibrahimovic? Or the Cavani who, in his last 5 seasons, has scored 33, 33, 38, 25 and 28 goals, especially in Italy where it's notoriously hard to score? You'd be mad to turn him down, mad.
Wouldn't turn him down if he was offered at the right price (£30m tops IMO), but wouldn't want us to pay what he's rumoured price is (something stupid like £40m+).
Stats are good but honestly, he's been dire in big games and in that sense he won't really add too much to our side will he? We can score goals against lower sides already, and Giroud can pluck out a goal or two vs bigger opponents too. Two years ago I would have said differently but Giroud has improved massively and we don't really need to go out and spend big on a striker anymore.
Having said that, if Lacazette was offered to us, I would much rather have him than Cavani. He has 27 goals and 6 assists in 32 games, and is only 23. We need a striker more like him at Arsenal right now.
Cavani, especially at 28, would be an unnecessary and a very expensive luxury.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by al_94
Well you have a point if you're talking about 4th place.If we are to compete with Chelsea for the league title next season then I believe we need to sign a better defender than Mertesacker.
We signed Gabriel for £12m didnt we?
Imo Gabriel and Koscielny are both better than Cahill so we're not that far behind and if JT slips in the shower then they'd be in trouble. Much bigger difference between the quality of their wing backs to ours and obviously GK.
Anyone going to the game tonight?
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