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    http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/0...ke-new-mission

    Great news is that Kepler (still going long after it was designed to) has found yet another batch of planets. Our total is about 3000 now.

    More importantly it's confirmed that TESS will be going up next August (2017). TESS will very likely find a habitable world close by since it's mission is to scan the nearest 200,000 stars including Red Dwarfs (we're in a relatively dense cluster of them).

    Moral of the story, we live in an amazing time on the space front.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Not at all, 100,000 odd dead is better than the dead of operation downfall, something people like to ignore, but that itself would pale compared to a soviet invasion of western Europe.

    You anti nuclear lot seem to love crying about a few thousand dead but would wish millions dead in their place.

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    Its not the sheer numbers that concern me, it was a situation in which Japan were in the process of surrendering, agonising pain and suffering, immeasurable long term environmental damage and setting the precedent of nuclear warfare, which caused, guess what, the Soviets to begin developing nuclear weapons. I'd be intrigued to see had the US not fired because I imagine there still would have been an element of fear in the USSR without physically having to see a nuke in action.

    I despise nuclear weapons, they're too dangerous for ANY nation to possess. That said, I appreciate that sacrifices must be made for winning a war (Downfall is a classic example of this) but it's not as one dimensional as you make out. Some wars are avoidable and the goal of every war shouldn't have to be total victory.
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    Statement on leaving the Liberal Party:

    I guess it will come as no surprise that I've left the Liberal party. Why? Under the last few leaders (not including Jarred) the party has become too petty and too illiberal. The TSR Liberal party now bears no resemblance to the actual Liberal Democrat party in whose image it was originally created. It has become a clique made up of mostly right-wing individuals posing as centrists, and friends of the leadership who have been recruited for support.

    Recently Petros broke the Liberal party's constitution and nobody cared. I don't want to be in a party that can't follow its own rules, and I certainly don't want to be in a party that tries to forcibly eject someone just because they don't like them. In the Liberal subforum my leaving will no doubt be treated as a victory, but personally I think it is really sad. But there's only so much toxicity a guy can take.

    Adieu les libéraux!

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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Statement on leaving the Liberal Party:

    I guess it will come as no surprise that I've left the Liberal party. Why? Under the last few leaders (not including Jarred) the party has become too petty and too illiberal. The TSR Liberal party now bears no resemblance to the actual Liberal Democrat party in whose image it was originally created. It has become a clique made up of mostly right-wing individuals posing as centrists, and friends of the leadership who have been recruited for support.

    Recently Petros broke the Liberal party's constitution and nobody cared. I don’t want to be in a party that can't follow its own rules, and I certainly don't want to be in a party that tries to forcibly eject someone just because they don't like them. In the Liberal subforum my leaving will no doubt be treated as a victory, but personally I think it is really sad. But there's only so much toxicity a guy can take.

    Adieu les libéraux!

    I am (genuinely) sorry to see you go, but I disagree with almost everything you've said here.

    Nevertheless, I wish you all the best.


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    Statement on leaving the Liberal Party:

    I guess it will come as no surprise that I've left the Liberal party. Why? Under the last few leaders (not including Jarred) the party has become too petty and too illiberal. The TSR Liberal party now bears no resemblance to the actual Liberal Democrat party in whose image it was originally created. It has become a clique made up of mostly right-wing individuals posing as centrists, and friends of the leadership who have been recruited for support.

    Recently Petros broke the Liberal party's constitution and nobody cared. I don't want to be in a party that can't follow its own rules, and I certainly don't want to be in a party that tries to forcibly eject someone just because they don't like them. In the Liberal subforum my leaving will no doubt be treated as a victory, but personally I think it is really sad. But there's only so much toxicity a guy can take.

    Adieu les libéraux!

    Well, if you ever want a more liberal party

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I am (genuinely) sorry to see you go, but I disagree with almost everything you've said here.

    Nevertheless, I wish you all the best.


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    What did you agree with?
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    What did you agree with?
    That it is no surprise given recent events. I also don't think we do resemble the Liberal Democrats (as much as I wish we resembled a more radically my liberal version of the party), but that's mostly on Birch and the members that were around when they changed the name


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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Statement on leaving the Liberal Party:

    I guess it will come as no surprise that I've left the Liberal party. Why? Under the last few leaders (not including Jarred) the party has become too petty and too illiberal. The TSR Liberal party now bears no resemblance to the actual Liberal Democrat party in whose image it was originally created. It has become a clique made up of mostly right-wing individuals posing as centrists, and friends of the leadership who have been recruited for support.

    Recently Petros broke the Liberal party's constitution and nobody cared. I don't want to be in a party that can't follow its own rules, and I certainly don't want to be in a party that tries to forcibly eject someone just because they don't like them. In the Liberal subforum my leaving will no doubt be treated as a victory, but personally I think it is really sad. But there's only so much toxicity a guy can take.

    Adieu les libéraux!

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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Statement on leaving the Liberal Party:

    I guess it will come as no surprise that I've left the Liberal party. Why? Under the last few leaders (not including Jarred) the party has become too petty and too illiberal. The TSR Liberal party now bears no resemblance to the actual Liberal Democrat party in whose image it was originally created. It has become a clique made up of mostly right-wing individuals posing as centrists, and friends of the leadership who have been recruited for support.

    Recently Petros broke the Liberal party's constitution and nobody cared. I don't want to be in a party that can't follow its own rules, and I certainly don't want to be in a party that tries to forcibly eject someone just because they don't like them. In the Liberal subforum my leaving will no doubt be treated as a victory, but personally I think it is really sad. But there's only so much toxicity a guy can take.

    Adieu les libéraux!

    Sad to see you go m8.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Statement on leaving the Liberal Party:

    I guess it will come as no surprise that I've left the Liberal party. Why? Under the last few leaders (not including Jarred) the party has become too petty and too illiberal. The TSR Liberal party now bears no resemblance to the actual Liberal Democrat party in whose image it was originally created. It has become a clique made up of mostly right-wing individuals posing as centrists, and friends of the leadership who have been recruited for support.

    Recently Petros broke the Liberal party's constitution and nobody cared. I don't want to be in a party that can't follow its own rules, and I certainly don't want to be in a party that tries to forcibly eject someone just because they don't like them. In the Liberal subforum my leaving will no doubt be treated as a victory, but personally I think it is really sad. But there's only so much toxicity a guy can take.

    Adieu les libéraux!

    I'm positively surprised by your confession that you're toxic. Unexpected, but it warms my heart. Don't forget to leave the user group!
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    I'm positively surprised by your confession that you're toxic. Unexpected, but it warms my heart. Don't forget to leave the user group!
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    I'm positively surprised by your confession that you're toxic. Unexpected, but it warms my heart. Don't forget to leave the user group!
    No, lp, not me. :rofl:

    No doubt it was the people who repped your post that are the real toxic characters in the Liberal party. I would name them but I'm done playing their game.
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    Renewing Trident is unjustified, not because it is immoral per se, but because it is completely ineffective as a deterrent.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07k...fk21j26orjubn0

    Renewing Trident is unjustified, not because it is immoral per se, but because it is completely ineffective as a deterrent.
    I've always wondered why we never went down the route of Thermobaric weapons. More expensive i assume.
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    Amusingly it seems that Momentum types have reached another level of crazy..

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/co...-a3308846.html

    The socialist Owen Jones is now....... a blairite.

    The lunatics really have left the asylum.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Amusingly it seems that Momentum types have reached another level of crazy..

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/co...-a3308846.html

    The socialist Owen Jones is now....... a blairite.

    The lunatics really have left the asylum.
    Apparently him having been to Tory Party conference in his job as a journalist is a cardinal sin and foolproof evidence he's an establishment stooge... *sigh*
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    (Original post by Saoirse:3)
    Apparently him having been to Tory Party conference in his job as a journalist is a cardinal sin and foolproof evidence he's an establishment stooge... *sigh*
    I remember watching a video he made a while back when he went to a Tory Party conference to see why people supported the Conservatives. It was actually rather interesting and rather well reasoned, unlike most of Jones' stuff.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07k...fk21j26orjubn0

    Renewing Trident is unjustified, not because it is immoral per se, but because it is completely ineffective as a deterrent.
    And at a time when our armed forces have at times struggled for the proper equipment as the Chilcot inquiry highlighted, I think it will be at the expense of conventional forces and the ability to contribute to UN peacekeeping work.
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    FoI request confirms what was suspected, London University investigation into weekend effect, commissioned by Hunt, found nothing.

    Yet Bruce Keogh (head of NHSEngland) pressured 4 royal colleges to back Hunts statement RE a need to address the "weekend effect" - purely ideological. As we all knew.

    Also, to confirm how petty things have gotten, junior doctors requested an app that they've helped create be used to allocate working hours. Govt rejected it, requiring it to go to tender.*
 
 
 
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