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    (Original post by Zürich)
    This is not a logical arguement, Juventus are clearly a different class to the rest of Serie A
    Also we're not talking about current Serie A, but Serie A 2-4 years ago where there was no Italian team challenging for the CL
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    This is not a logical arguement, Juventus are clearly a different class to the rest of Serie A.

    Also to say that the Italian League is the hardest to score implies that opposition defenders are somehow better when in fact its more likely that both teams just play more tactically and conservatively. Once you get into the box, attacking play is the same everywhere and goalscoring depends on the quality of CBs mainly. And some strikers find Italy easier, it's debatable whether Zlatan would take to the pace of the PL for instance. The likes of Shevchenko certainly didnt

    And none of those 3 would come close to challenging for the top4 here. In fact Lazio would probably struggle for a top10 finish.
    This argument that the PL is some kind of special league is a joke to me. The PL is not a hard league at all for attacking players they've come here from La Liga and they've all impressed. Maybe at one time the PL was a difficult league but those days are gone the quality has dropped considerably.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Yer we can book a return ticket from Kings Cross on the Eurostar, Flamini can take the one over and resume his career as a disagreeable Parisian waiter while Lacazette can take the ticket back.

    Tbf Arsenal do have an inherent advantage with French footballers because of Wenger. French people have told me the club has a certain charisma over there.
    Yeah Wenger is the guy you want in charge if you're trying to get a Frenchie.

    (Original post by al_94)
    Lazcazette could be a one season wonder there's nothing special about him.
    So could Kane, what's your point? Lacazette could be a one season wonder, or he could be a 30-goal-a-season striker for us. Considering our current backup is Dat Guy, I think we should risk it.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    So could Kane, what's your point? Lacazette could be a one season wonder, or he could be a 30-goal-a-season striker for us. Considering our current backup is Dat Guy, I think we should risk it.
    You favour him over Cavani & Higuain but they are proven over the seasons that they can score goals in different leagues.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    You favour him over Cavani & Higuain but they are proven over the seasons that they can score goals in different leagues.
    I favour him over Cavani simply because he is 5 years younger, and his price tag is probably considerably less. No-one ever mentioned Higuain, and I would love to get him.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    I favour him over Cavani simply because he is 5 years younger, and his price tag is probably considerably less. No-one ever mentioned Higuain, and I would love to get him.
    Higuain is 4 years younger (vs 5 for Cavani), and Lacazette would cost considerably less than Gonzalo too...
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    (Original post by Pimped Butterfly)
    Higuain is 4 years younger (vs 5 for Cavani), and Lacazette would cost considerably less than Gonzalo too...
    I know, I said I'd love to get him, not that I'd favour him over Laca. Another one to throw into the mix is J. Martinez.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    Lazcazette could be a one season wonder there's nothing special about him.
    Actually, it's pretty unlikely.

    Lacazette is a youth prodigy that scored heavily both nationally, and internationally in age group football, on the world stage. The first I heard of him was when he scored a winner for France in a world/euros, my vested interest was in Pacheco who played for Liverpool, and Spain (France's opposition in the final). He then took some time to adapt to senior football (both physically and in speed of thought), but then hit 22 in 54 at the age of 22, which is a pretty typical break out age. And then he's progressed to hitting in 31 in 38 this season. Now of those 22, 1 was a penalty, and there's 8 penalties this season (perhaps more in cups, but I cba to find the stats, really). But 23 in 38 is still damned impressive.

    So all in all he's showing a pretty typical youth prodigy to senior star progression, just like Ramsey, Bale etc have followed, and he seems a great bet to have score a lot of goals for the rest of this decade.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    I know, I said I'd love to get him, not that I'd favour him over Laca. Another one to throw into the mix is J. Martinez.
    Seems a bit of a semantic cop out from you but meh. I wouldn't go near Jackson, personally.
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    Just invest in Reus and Vidal tbh
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    (Original post by Pimped Butterfly)
    Seems a bit of a semantic cop out from you but meh. I wouldn't go near Jackson, personally.
    Oh well, I just didn't type my comment out properly the first time, sorry. Why not? I know he hasn't really been tested in one of the big four leagues, but his record for Porto is great? The only reason I wouldn't buy him is the possible price tag. He won't be cheap.
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    (Original post by Stefano93)
    Just invest in Reus and Vidal tbh
    Reus' pricetag alone would cause Wenger to have a heart attack. Throw Vidal in and Wenger would just collapse on the spot. That being said, I would love for us to sign them.
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    Marco Reus would sell for about £45m probably

    Doable but we've never signed players like him who are in demand from all the big clubs. Fending off Juventus for Alexis Sanchez was about all we've ever done in that department
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    Oh well, I just didn't type my comment out properly the first time, sorry. Why not? I know he hasn't really been tested in one of the big four leagues, but his record for Porto is great? The only reason I wouldn't buy him is the possible price tag. He won't be cheap.
    Old, big price tag, never played in a big league, not much to him other than goalscoring. Has failure written all over it.
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    (Original post by Stefano93)
    Just invest in Reus and Vidal tbh
    Don't think we need a b2b player, especially with Ramsey in the team, rather a traditional dm, maybe Schneiderlin/Kondogbia
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    (Original post by Pimped Butterfly)
    Actually, it's pretty unlikely.

    Lacazette is a youth prodigy that scored heavily both nationally, and internationally in age group football, on the world stage. The first I heard of him was when he scored a winner for France in a world/euros, my vested interest was in Pacheco who played for Liverpool, and Spain (France's opposition in the final). He then took some time to adapt to senior football (both physically and in speed of thought), but then hit 22 in 54 at the age of 22, which is a pretty typical break out age. And then he's progressed to hitting in 31 in 38 this season. Now of those 22, 1 was a penalty, and there's 8 penalties this season (perhaps more in cups, but I cba to find the stats, really). But 23 in 38 is still damned impressive.

    So all in all he's showing a pretty typical youth prodigy to senior star progression, just like Ramsey, Bale etc have followed, and he seems a great bet to have score a lot of goals for the rest of this decade.
    He aint no prodigy that is like Messi, Neymar, Gotze.There aint nothing special about him at all. He's got a good record but that doesn't mean he will do it again there's been players who have not lived up to expectation many times before.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    He aint no prodigy that is like Messi, Neymar, Gotze.There aint nothing special about him at all. He's got a good record but that doesn't mean he will do it again there's been players who have not lived up to expectation many times before.
    And that's what you said before too, and I demonstrated to you why there is a great chance that Lacazette will repeat his success.

    Sure it's not nailed on, but then again Alexis, Bale and other WC players aren't nailed on to perform as WC players next season either. Nothing is nailed on in football, but Lacazette is as good an investment (ignoring the transfer fee) as any.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    This argument that the PL is some kind of special league is a joke to me. The PL is not a hard league at all for attacking players they've come here from La Liga and they've all impressed. Maybe at one time the PL was a difficult league but those days are gone the quality has dropped considerably.
    Because for every Hazard/Sanchez/Mata you get a Di Maria/Shevchenko/Cuadrado.
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    ffs Ramsey starting, bloke needs to be rested for the cup final.
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    Thank god for Bellerin, perhaps he'll do a better job of dealing with Monteros pace than Chambers did...
 
 
 
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