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    The fear of the hangover now deters me from drinking without good reason/if I have things to do the next day
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    I can't even remember the last time I drank. Bad times.
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    (Original post by i'm no superman)
    I can't even remember the last time I drank. Bad times.
    Must have been a good night then
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    (Original post by Mushi_master)
    Must have been a good night then
    Well it ended up with someone I know having a splenectomy and testicular haematoma. Never run in the snow! He fell and cracked 3 ribs.

    This actually only happened two weeks ago. Ahh I do remember! :dunce:
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    (Original post by i'm no superman)
    Well it ended up with someone I know having a splenectomy and testicular haematoma. Never run in the snow! He fell and cracked 3 ribs.

    This actually only happened two weeks ago. Ahh I do remember! :dunce:
    Bloody hell that ain't a night to forget!
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    (Original post by i'm no superman)
    Well it ended up with someone I know having a splenectomy and testicular haematoma. Never run in the snow! He fell and cracked 3 ribs.

    This actually only happened two weeks ago. Ahh I do remember! :dunce:
    LOL, wat?
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    So, apparently, running into the room and yelling "ABRUPTIO PLACENTAE" with a pretend wand is innapropriate and childish.

    I hate my flatmates sometimes.
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    Had a bit of a weird incident on firms today. There was a girl doing work experience for a week, finished up last Friday.
    Much to my surprise she rumbles into the Department today! So I asked her what she was doing and 'apparently', she had been told it was OK by the volunteer coordinator as long as one of the doctors gave 'their consent'.

    Now this set off question marks in my head, some school girl wandering around the department unsupervised tagging along onto random doctors in a very busy part of the hospital, no badge, no nothing. I am pretty sure that isn't on and that she wouldn't be covered by Trust insurance/malpractice etc if not on an official work experience project.

    Thoughts?
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    (Original post by digitalis)
    Had a bit of a weird incident on firms today. There was a girl doing work experience for a week, finished up last Friday.
    Much to my surprise she rumbles into the Department today! So I asked her what she was doing and 'apparently', she had been told it was OK by the volunteer coordinator as long as one of the doctors gave 'their consent'.

    Now this set off question marks in my head, some school girl wandering around the department unsupervised tagging along onto random doctors in a very busy part of the hospital, no badge, no nothing. I am pretty sure that isn't on and that she wouldn't be covered by Trust insurance/malpractice etc if not on an official work experience project.
    Dude I wouldn't kick up a fuss - if you don't know anybody sometimes it's hard to get work experience - as long as she's being supervised and not you know doing any active procedures I'd leave it
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    (Original post by Philosoraptor)
    Dude I wouldn't kick up a fuss - if you don't know anybody sometimes it's hard to get work experience - as long as she's being supervised and not you know doing any active procedures I'd leave it
    Well the difficulty of getting work experience is besides the point-this is a question of accountability, liability and patient safety. This is a schoolkid wandering about A&E majors and resus unannounced and unexpected and uncovered by any sort of insurance. There is a reason why you have to go through proper channels to get work experience-imagine if every single wannabe medic just pitched up through the ambulance doors into resus and started wandering about?! :rolleyes:

    And as a separate point, she drew blood as well which I thought was extremely unprofessional of whoever was supervising her. Can you imagine the absolute disaster it would be if she got a needlestick? Not even immunised against Hep B let alone the other nasties floating about.
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    (Original post by digitalis)
    And as a separate point, she drew blood as well which I thought was extremely unprofessional of whoever was supervising her. Can you imagine the absolute disaster it would be if she got a needlestick? Not even immunised against Hep B let alone the other nasties floating about.
    wuuuuut. That aint right.
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    Mate, I'll tell you I felt so damned uncomfortable when she told me that. For her, for the patient, for the doctor...I just hope the doctor only heard the 'student' bit and assumed she was a medical student (albeit a very young one!)
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    (Original post by digitalis)
    Mate, I'll tell you I felt so damned uncomfortable when she told me that. For her, for the patient, for the doctor...I just hope the doctor only heard the 'student' bit and assumed she was a medical student (albeit a very young one!)
    I don't get why she would have wanted to do it, tbh. It would probs go down like a sack of **** if she tried to use it as bragging rights in an interview.
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    (Original post by digitalis)
    Mate, I'll tell you I felt so damned uncomfortable when she told me that. For her, for the patient, for the doctor...I just hope the doctor only heard the 'student' bit and assumed she was a medical student (albeit a very young one!)
    Wait she's walking around without anybody at all (e.g. a medical student even) in RESUS? And taking blood?!

    Er ok I wasn't consenting to that. Lol!

    My friend on the course's brother wants to do medicine so followed him about for a day or two - always asking permission with patients, saying this is a wannabe medical student is it ok it he listens to our chat... Tbh, that's harmless - don't touch anything, don't get in the way, and ask permission.

    What that girl is doing is WTF? I got offered to take blood as a 2nd year and said no - so an A level student is out of the question.

    I hope you didn't misunderstand me... feel free to carry on the discussion if you have issues with my viewpoint though
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    (Original post by digitalis)
    Well the difficulty of getting work experience is besides the point-this is a question of accountability, liability and patient safety. This is a schoolkid wandering about A&E majors and resus unannounced and unexpected and uncovered by any sort of insurance. There is a reason why you have to go through proper channels to get work experience-imagine if every single wannabe medic just pitched up through the ambulance doors into resus and started wandering about?! :rolleyes:

    And as a separate point, she drew blood as well which I thought was extremely unprofessional of whoever was supervising her. Can you imagine the absolute disaster it would be if she got a needlestick? Not even immunised against Hep B let alone the other nasties floating about.
    How can the person in charge have allowed her to do that? I have been immunised against Hep B, but even I declined taking blood from a patient when my consultant offered to teach me.

    Is it even legal to be able to draw blood from a patient without being properly signed off?

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    On a separate note, I was taking a patient history from a teenage girl today and I managed to get her to admit to smoking, much to the horror of her mother, who was also in the room at the time.
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    (Original post by Philosoraptor)
    Wait she's walking around without anybody at all (e.g. a medical student even) in RESUS? And taking blood?!

    Er ok I wasn't consenting to that. Lol!

    My friend on the course's brother wants to do medicine so followed him about for a day or two - always asking permission with patients, saying this is a wannabe medical student is it ok it he listens to our chat... Tbh, that's harmless - don't touch anything, don't get in the way, and ask permission.

    What that girl is doing is WTF? I got offered to take blood as a 2nd year and said no - so an A level student is out of the question.

    I hope you didn't misunderstand me... feel free to carry on the discussion if you have issues with my viewpoint though
    I took blood as a second year. We had been taught at least twice by then.
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    (Original post by SMed)
    ^^^
    I have this to look forward to for the next 10 weeks.
    Hope the exams are going well.

    I'm on 1800 words. Tonight is going to be awful. I feel like giving up but I'm going to try and get to 2k and hope my supervisor doesn't rape me tomorrow. I'm about 60% done with this introduction.
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    (Original post by digitalis)
    Well the difficulty of getting work experience is besides the point-this is a question of accountability, liability and patient safety. This is a schoolkid wandering about A&E majors and resus unannounced and unexpected and uncovered by any sort of insurance. There is a reason why you have to go through proper channels to get work experience-imagine if every single wannabe medic just pitched up through the ambulance doors into resus and started wandering about?! :rolleyes:

    And as a separate point, she drew blood as well which I thought was extremely unprofessional of whoever was supervising her. Can you imagine the absolute disaster it would be if she got a needlestick? Not even immunised against Hep B let alone the other nasties floating about.
    Lol, what? What if she'd hit the nerve while taking blood? I'm sure whoever was supervising her would have a bit of a difficult time trying to pass that off when the patient pitchs up with median nerve neuropathy due to a school student ****ing up.

    If I was you I'd have a quiet word with your reg/cons and see that they pass it on through the proper channels that this isn't responsible. Tbh, what the **** is a work experience student doing in resus/A&E anyway!? Surely she'd be better off in the quieter wards, chatting to fairly well patients or in stuff like the angioplasty labs with the technicians observing from there? Maybe a bit of surgery, or put her in the clinicals skills lab and jab plastic arms to her hearts content.

    Regardless, her work experience is up. IF she wants to crack on then she needs to get an official extensions not just permission to pester random consultants to allow her to follow them around.

    I'd definitly have a quiet word though, no need to kick up a proper fuss as once it's passed on you've done your bit.
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    (Original post by crazylemon)
    I took blood as a second year. We had been taught at least twice by then.
    Yeah that's not a problem dude - we don't get taught till first year clinicals (4th out of 6)
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    (Original post by fairy spangles)
    Hehe. Thats quite funny. ps - your university is big on communication skills which is why you probably noticed it.

    Although makes things easier - i walked in this morning can i have some antibiotics, salbutamol and prednisolone please - yup, one prescription and straight back out again. Dont think i even sat down properly.

    Was in hospital few weeks ago and the dr kept telling me he was putting salty water through the cannula. My cover was blown a few minutes later.
    Haha, that moment when they realise you're a medic! I was going to say something at one point but didn't want him to feel awkward that he'd been using these very simple terms with me haha. He even kept using medical terms then correcting himself, so after that point I decided I'd save him the trouble and just pretend!

    I hope you get better soon btw! :hugs:
 
 
 
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