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    (Original post by Enginerd.)
    Salaam. Any body else fasting today?

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    walaykum salaam

    I am
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    Man its so annoying when u edit ur posts half way, I'm going sleep now I'll gmaul spec you and end this debate later
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-10254530.html
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    Who's going to the mela tomorrow

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    (Original post by husband material)
    Who's going to the mela tomorrow

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    what's a mela
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    One of my favourite nasheeds

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    (Original post by kyoti)
    voting is apparently shirk too lol
    Brother/sister, I advise against this approach of discussion.

    I haven't looked into any ikhtilaaf (difference of opinion) with regards to this matter. But indeed one position is that voting is not shirk. Any difference of opinion amongst the scholars should be respected, and even if one disagrees we can try to understand their reasoning for their respective positions.

    (Original post by Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam)
    In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,
    As explained in my previous answer, which you have referred to, that voting for a candidate standing in the elections of non-Muslim democratic countries, with the intention of improving as much as possible the circumstances that one lives in or the circumstances of other Muslims, or with the intention of preventing/minimizing harm, firmly believing that sovereignty and true hukm belongs to Allah alone, is something that is permissible, and not unlawful (haram), disbelief (kufr) or polytheism (shirk).

    This is my position on the matter, and the position of the vast majority of contemporary Muslim scholars. There are many evidences for this which have been discussed in various articles and public forums, and as such, you may refer to them for more elucidation.

    However, it is incorrect to make a blanket statement that voting is obligatory (fard). In the previous answer, I stated, in light of the Hadith of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him), that, 'At times voting becomes necessary' and ' If one is able to prevent or minimize oppression by casting a vote, then not voting would be sinful.'

    Thus, the sin is only in the situation where one genuinely believes that by voting, one will be able to prevent/minimize open transgression and oppression, yet does not do so out of neglect and not having any concern for the interests of Muslims. If one abstains, however, because he feels that his vote won't make a difference, or one does not see any benefit in voting, then there is nothing wrong with that.

    And Allah knows Best

    [Mufti] Muhammad ibn Adam
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    (Original post by kyoti)
    voting is apparently shirk too lol
    don't mind them lol like I said this is NOT ISOC IT'S THE SALAFIST SOC any slight difference in belief they remove the posts without giving you a chance to explain
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    Can I start a quiz?

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    (Original post by HSafirah)
    Can I start a quiz?

    You're free to do what you want - within site rules of course
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    You're free to do what you want - within site rules of course
    Thanks Internet
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    QUIZ


    What's the name of the surah that attracted Umar al-Khattab (r.a) to Islam?
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    (Original post by HSafirah)
    Thanks Internet
    Nw It's also quite nice to see that there's some peace between the ISOC group and the ex Muslim group these days tbh!
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Nw It's also quite nice to see that there's some peace between the ISOC group and the ex Muslim group these days tbh!
    Indeed it is
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    (Original post by HSafirah)
    QUIZ


    What's the name of the surah that attracted Umar al-Khattab (r.a) to Islam?
    Surah Ha'qah?

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    To be precise 29th Juz Beautiful Surah

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    (Original post by Enginerd.)
    Surah Ha'qah?

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    Guess again, nope

    Clue: Umar was heading to his sister's house
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    (Original post by HSafirah)
    Guess again, nope

    Clue: Umar was heading to his sister's house
    Havn't really a clue, I've only heard Surah Haq'ah before... are we allowed to use Ze Interwebz?

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    (Original post by katbob)
    don't mind them lol like I said this is NOT ISOC IT'S THE SALAFIST SOC any slight difference in belief they remove the posts without giving you a chance to explain
    Brother/sister, I advise against instigating sectarianist attitudes. A much more beneficial approach is to share knowledge.
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    (Original post by HSafirah)
    Guess again, nope

    Clue: Umar was heading to his sister's house

    Ta-ha
 
 
 
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