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    (Original post by Unown Uzer)
    That's why some remainians need to be shot before they reach the polling station. Or at least we could have bus-loads of leave supporters voting in different polling stations like they do in Russia. It might even get us 110% for leave!
    I'd say I hope you are joking but I really don't think you are.
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    (Original post by Unown Uzer)
    That's why some remainians need to be shot before they reach the polling station. Or at least we could have bus-loads of leave supporters voting in different polling stations like they do in Russia. It might even get us 110% for leave!
    When people actually admit Brexit was best for the country, we should have another referendum here.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    When people actually admit Brexit was best for the country, we should have another referendum here.
    They already have, 46:42

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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    When people actually admit Brexit was best for the country, we should have another referendum here.
    Except that we can't anymore. The GD and rules are very clear, we can only hold a referendum on important issues of the day. The issue is now done and dusted, it's happened and there is nothing we can do. As such Unless there comes a time when we are re-entering IRL we cannot and should not hold said referendum. Besides, it would be too confusing for people on TSR to try and understand that the MHoC is different.

    The house is afaic perpetually locked into the EU until such a time when there are enough europhobes to remove us who are MP's.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Except that we can't anymore. The GD and rules are very clear, we can only hold a referendum on important issues of the day. The issue is now done and dusted, it's happened and there is nothing we can do. As such Unless there comes a time when we are re-entering IRL we cannot and should not hold said referendum. Besides, it would be too confusing for people on TSR to try and understand that the MHoC is different.

    The house is afaic perpetually locked into the EU until such a time when there are enough europhobes to remove us who are MP's.
    So where exactly is it explicitly stated Mr europhile?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So where exactly is it explicitly stated Mr europhile?

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    Ummmm
    1) Referendums should relate to real life constitutional matters
    Which is binding because it's referenced by the constitution.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Ummmm

    Which is binding because it's referenced by the constitution.
    Should=\=shall

    Also it's worth noting that one could argue it's a constitutional issue at the very least until actual exit, arguably as long as the EU exists it is valid, and precedent suggests otherwise.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Should=\=shall

    Also it's worth noting that one could argue it's a constitutional issue at the very least until actual exit, arguably as long as the EU exists it is valid, and precedent suggests otherwise.

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    I agree it should be in the imperative but it's written in normal speak and it's fair to assume that that is what is meant.

    Also, it would be a nightmare trying to convey that TSR is still in the EU and they are voting based on wether they would want to stay in the EU had the RL referendum not happened and not based on if the RL result should be carried out.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I agree it should be in the imperative but it's written in normal speak and it's fair to assume that that is what is meant.

    Also, it would be a nightmare trying to convey that TSR is still in the EU and they are voting based on wether they would want to stay in the EU had the RL referendum not happened and not based on if the RL result should be carried out.
    Continued membership is actually far from certain, for a start you assume that the ONLY way to leave would be via referendum and that there will never be another referendum on it.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Continued membership is actually far from certain, for a start you assume that the ONLY way to leave would be via referendum and that there will never be another referendum on it.

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    I suggest you read my message to QQ
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I suggest you read my message to QQ
    Which does not deal with the issues that your assumptions are baseless

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    Or, as I think I've said before, we could just wait for us to leave properly in real life, and have a Great Repeal whenever that happens. And then we just start again on the basis we are now out of the EU. That would be easiest to understand for everyone new and old. Besides, 'negotiating' the exit terms of a brexit is a bit beyond the scope of MHoC.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    Or, as I think I've said before, we could just wait for us to leave properly in real life, and have a Great Repeal whenever that happens. And then we just start again on the basis we are now out of the EU. That would be easiest to understand for everyone new and old. Besides, 'negotiating' the exit terms of a brexit is a bit beyond the scope of MHoC.
    We don't even need to wait to leave, we just need to wait long enough that nobody can argue that the referendum is still protected (which technically just means it cannot come into force this term)

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Which does not deal with the issues that your assumptions are baseless

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    I never stated or assumes that a referendum can only be over turned by a referendum, although your colleagues have in the past. I said a referendum can be overturned by a majority of europobic MP's.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I never stated or assumes that a referendum can only be over turned by a referendum, although your colleagues have in the past. I said a referendum can be overturned by a majority of europobic MP's.
    Support of exit does not necessarily imply "europhobia" or even euroscepticism, I'm yet to find any leave voter who shits themselves whenever they see a non-British European. A simple great repeal would be enough, and another referendum is easy to argue for, although great repeal/straight up MHoC vote would be so much simpler, easier, and more reliable.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Support of exit does not necessarily imply "europhobia" or even euroscepticism, I'm yet to find any leave voter who shits themselves whenever they see a non-British European. A simple great repeal would be enough, and another referendum is easy to argue for, although great repeal/straight up MHoC vote would be so much simpler, easier, and more reliable.

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    a great repeal wouldn't work either. Thanks to canon.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    a great repeal wouldn't work either. Thanks to canon.
    Depends how it's worded, further, after the monarchy referendum (which by your own argument is unconstitutional) was there a specific piece of legislation to bring the change into effect or was the referendum the only thing?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Depends how it's worded, further, after the monarchy referendum (which by your own argument is unconstitutional) was there a specific piece of legislation to bring the change into effect or was the referendum the only thing?

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    There was a monarchy bill at the end of XIX which your side argued what unconstitutional because the last monarchy abolishion was defeated at referendum, but it passed and was enacted until the great repeal. If we had enactment amendments for a president to the constitution and GD then it would be arguable that the great repeal could not have undone that bill because it would conflict with the constitution.
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    Surely China should have had a much bigger penalty there

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Surely China should have had a much bigger penalty there

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    If that is a comment about the artistic gymnastics team final I agree, I think there have been routines where judging has been questionable.
 
 
 
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