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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    My dear lady, I was worried that some topics might eventually drive a wedge between us and imperil our delicate, yet very affectionate relationship, but do not worry, for I shall put things right and hopefully earn your favours once again. Before I'm able to construct proper defence, however, I need to see that post of mine – could you send me a link, please? I don't keep track of my TSR speeches and usually consider them horse**** like nearly all of the content here because they're just for an internet forum (which is full of commies, ugh)…

    Regardless, I must say I'm devastated that you refuse to grant me an heir. It could be a lovely female named Jessica (then we could hire a nanny and send the girl to a boarding school afterwards, don't worry)…
    My dear sir,

    The link has been sent. I looked forward to your response.
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    (Original post by CescaD96)
    My dear sir,

    The link has been sent. I looked forward to your response.
    Many thanks! See, that one wasn't horse**** after all! :holmes:

    Firstly, I must stress that what I wrote was a generalisation and the main point was encouragement, not prohibition.

    I'm glad that you have your priorities sorted and you certainly seem to be clever enough but it's nevertheless true that the culture greatly affects individuals' values and choices based upon them. It has been concluded that in the name of equality, women are pushed to become engineers or scientists despite their earlier preferences and predispositions.

    It's similar to the devaluation of university education – people feel obligated to pursue higher education to find happiness in life, the universities produce so many graduates that most of them don't even need their formal qualification for the work they end up doing, the degrees are not worth what they used to, and we hire immigrants to do the lesser jobs.

    I never said that producing children was a duty to the country. I said that as a species, we must seek to improve the environment in which we live, and prolong our survival. To do that, we are social, share resources, and utilise multiple evolutionary mechanisms developed long ago for the sole purpose of keeping us alive. Right now, we are slowly destroying ourselves because if we're unwilling to think ahead and shape our current values to produce better future, what is the purpose of shaping the future at all? What motivates you to continue living and do your PhD., for example?

    The mothers wouldn't be bitter nor resentful if they weren't imprinted with such values – the environment does have a huge impact on one's personality, particularly during early development, and we are in control less than we like to admit. I'd even bet that you will once feel an urge to produce an offspring because as a human female, it's your ultimate purpose. Trust me, some feelings are unimaginable before they're felt and this procreation stuff certainly falls in that category, especially for mothers.

    I'm not sure what you mean by that male gene paragraph – could you reiterate, please?

    With all due respect, I can see why people are not interested in politics. It's an artificial field full of either corrupted persons striving for power or non-productive theorists a.k.a. philosophers, and most of actual empirical knowledge falls into e.g. economics, psychology, etc. Men are interested in politics because they're males – required to show their dominance by expressing their opinions and fighting for them. Am I wrong?

    Yes, women are capable of all of that, yet it doesn't mean that they should nor that it's optimal for them (again, generally speaking).
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Many thanks! See, that one wasn't horse**** after all! :holmes:

    Firstly, I must stress that what I wrote was a generalisation and the main point was encouragement, not prohibition.

    I'm glad that you have your priorities sorted and you certainly seem to be clever enough but it's nevertheless true that the culture greatly affects individuals' values and choices based upon them. It has been concluded that in the name of equality, women are pushed to become engineers or scientists despite their earlier preferences and predispositions.

    It's similar to the devaluation of university education – people feel obligated to pursue higher education to find happiness in life, the universities produce so many graduates that most of them don't even need their formal qualification for the work they end up doing, the degrees are not worth what they used to, and we hire immigrants to do the lesser jobs.

    I never said that producing children was a duty to the country. I said that as a species, we must seek to improve the environment in which we live, and prolong our survival. To do that, we are social, share resources, and utilise multiple evolutionary mechanisms developed long ago for the sole purpose of keeping us alive. Right now, we are slowly destroying ourselves because if we're unwilling to think ahead and shape our current values to produce better future, what is the purpose of shaping the future at all? What motivates you to continue living and do your PhD., for example?

    The mothers wouldn't be bitter nor resentful if they weren't imprinted with such values – the environment does have a huge impact on one's personality, particularly during early development, and we are in control less than we like to admit. I'd even bet that you will once feel an urge to produce an offspring because as a human female, it's your ultimate purpose. Trust me, some feelings are unimaginable before they're felt and this procreation stuff certainly falls in that category, especially for mothers.

    I'm not sure what you mean by that male gene paragraph – could you reiterate, please?

    With all due respect, I can see why people are not interested in politics. It's an artificial field full of either corrupted persons striving for power or non-productive theorists a.k.a. philosophers, and most of actual empirical knowledge falls into e.g. economics, psychology, etc. Men are interested in politics because they're males – required to show their dominance by expressing their opinions and fighting for them. Am I wrong?

    Yes, women are capable of all of that, yet it doesn't mean that they should nor that it's optimal for them (again, generally speaking).
    I think in terms of women entering non traditional roles can be addressed. Women were perceived as delicate little butterflies, who had no desire or interest in engineering or science; however, when there was war, who worked as engineers, factory workers, and the like? The Queen was an engineer, I believe! This is society working on us; men are just as capable as being teachers, nurses and the likes. My favourite teachers have mostly been males! Would you rather have a capable male nurse who enjoys thoroughly his work looking after you, or me as your nurse, someone who has no interest in science and would only be a nurse to fit your gender roles?

    I agree with you on universities. But that has happened due to that there is a belief that you are meant to be better off than your parents' generation. Like me, for instance. Neither of my parents went to university, and I am going.

    What motivates me to do a PhD? Academics is all I could ever do. I'm not hardwired to work full time with people. I can hardly stand an hour with my friends, unfortunately. It's a sense of pride, achievement. I'd be the first in the family.

    Mentioning family brings me to the children bit: I'm surrounded by babies. Daddy, sadly, comes from a big family, and I'm the eldest granddaughter. I've held all my younger cousins as babies. My cousin just had a baby on Saturday. I've never liked them. Despised holding my little brother as a baby. I've never had that urge - probably for good reason - and I doubt I ever will. I don't like people, so why should I like babies?

    Maybe I interpreted you wrong on duty over want of having a child, but I still stand by that having a child is a privilege, and unless you know for certain that you will love that child til the day you die and will do all in your power to give them your best then you shouldn't have a child. As for me, I doubt I ever could do that.

    My male comments links to your comment that women freezing their ova is dangerous and irresponsible, as that could potentially harm the genes required. There are some of the male species who shouldn't procreate full stop, and I see those type of people every day. I would rather have the women freezing their ova reproducing than those idiots.

    You're not wrong, but why can't some women do that too? Why must I be told "go make a sandwich" every time I make a valid point about politics in class, even though the boys have barely any idea what an MP is? The view that men have to dominant all aspects of society is archaic, once more.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Gotta love BoJo

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    Yes, indeed. With all five of one's knuckles.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    BoJo the HoBo
    My uncle had an argument with BoJo on BBC News. BoJo was going around cracking drug dens and my uncle swore that the joint in his mouth wasnt his...xD

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    My uncle had an argument with BoJo on BBC News. BoJo was going around cracking drug dens and my uncle swore that the joint in his mouth wasnt his...xD

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    I was there, and it was my joint
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    I was there, and it was my joint
    You and my 60 year old Uncle? I don't want to begin to imagine the things that went on behind closed doors

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    You and my 60 year old Uncle? I don't want to begin to imagine the things that went on behind closed doors

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    It was always an open door Petros, like my back door.
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    (Original post by James Milibanter)
    It was always an open door Petros, like my back door.
    And that's my cue to leave....

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    Off to the Houses of Parliament today!
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    Off to the Houses of Parliament today!
    Lucky you!
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    Off to the Houses of Parliament today!
    I'm going on Friday. Can't wait!

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    (Original post by CescaD96)
    Lucky you!

    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I'm going on Friday. Can't wait!

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    Saw loads of recognisable faces including George Galloway, Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Sarah Champion (she seemed to be everywhere), John Redwood, Norman Tebbit and more

    Was pretty cool

    And the foood in Portcullis House is ridiculously cheap.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'm worried I'm moving right
    Right wing?

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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'm worried I'm moving right
    That's not even possible with you.


    (Original post by StatusRed)
    Saw loads of recognisable faces including George Galloway, Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Sarah Champion (she seemed to be everywhere), John Redwood, Norman Tebbit and more

    Was pretty cool

    And the foood in Portcullis House is ridiculously cheap.
    Ed Balls is a man I'd like to meet. I want to see if anyone sniggers when his surname is said.
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    Saw loads of recognisable faces including George Galloway, Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Sarah Champion (she seemed to be everywhere), John Redwood, Norman Tebbit and more

    Was pretty cool

    And the foood in Portcullis House is ridiculously cheap.
    What time did you go?

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Right wing?

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    Yeah...
    (Original post by CescaD96)
    That's not even possible with you.




    Ed Balls is a man I'd like to meet. I want to see if anyone sniggers when his surname is said.
    I've been listening to people say some of the things I might and am horrified by it.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Right wing?

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    I'm probably more centrist in terms of economics, but due to my views on social equality and liberty I appear to be quite the radical. I agree with the sentiment of voluntary trade completely, and wish to see the role of the state reduced to purely social issues rather than economic ones. While anyone would agree that it's best to keep money out of politics, not many agree that politics should be kept out of money. I would also like to see the Trade unions with much more power and have them represent the workforce rather than the government, and would like to see culture and arts be given a much higher priority than it already is.
 
 
 
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