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    (Original post by abucha3)
    Your comparison suggests you lack intelligence.

    The name, Adolf is used by thousands around the world and does not symbolise the Nazi Party or what occured from 1939. It is a name; it just so happens that Adolf Hitler was infamous.

    The comparison that I am making is between two groups which share the same policies.

    For instance, the Conservative Party have Conservative views.

    The USSR have Socialist views and the Socialist Party have Socialist views. Therefore, I am making the comparisons on their views and the fact that they are both Socialist Groups, hence having similar policies.
    Please do not be insulting :curious:

    Secondly, I feel you are confusing policy with ideology, they are two different things. I certainly do not think the USSR had true "Socialist" policies, whereas TSR's "Socialist Party" certainly try to, at the very least. Therefore i do think your argument if lacking, particularly as you seem to lack a decent knowledge of the USSR with respect to what "Socialism" as defined by the actually political philosophy rather than the Soviet practice is. Go do some research before i bother to even talk to you.
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    (Original post by Magnum Opus)
    Please do not be insulting :curious:

    Secondly, I feel you are confusing policy with ideology, they are two different things. I certainly do not think the USSR had true "Socialist" policies, whereas TSR's "Socialist Party" certainly try to, at the very least. Therefore i do think your argument if lacking, particularly as you seem to lack a decent knowledge of the USSR with respect to what "Socialism" as defined by the actually political philosophy rather than the Soviet practice is. Go do some research before i bother to even talk to you.
    I am not being insulting. I never said you lacked intelligence, but merely said that your comment would suggest that you do.

    Research is not needed.

    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
    The Socialist Party

    The similarity is glaring at you in the face. Please be attentive enough to aknowledge the fact that the USSR and the Socialist Party are both Socialist Groups with Socilist Policies.

    Hence, in their title we see the term, 'socialist'. The weren't born with that title and they didn't put it up there for fun. They both used the term 'socialist' because they are Socialist.

    Hence, why I suggest that you lack intelligence because only an idiot would fail to see that point.
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    (Original post by abucha3)
    I am not being insulting. I never said you lacked intelligence, but merely said that your comment would suggest that you do.

    Research is not needed.

    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
    The Socialist Party

    The similarity is glaring at you in the face. Please be attentive enough to aknowledge the fact that the USSR and the Socialist Party are both Socialist Groups with Socilist Policies.

    Hence, in their title we see the term, 'socialist'. The weren't born with that title and they didn't put it up there for fun. They both used the term 'socialist' because they are Socialist.

    Hence, why I suggest that you lack intelligence because only an idiot would fail to see that point.
    For crying out loud, comparing one word to another because it sounds the same is never a good way of analysing something. You need to analyse the group behind the name, not the name itself.

    Take this linguistically, preservative in English is considered to be "jam"; in French, preservatif means "condom". The words are similar, in fact, essentially the same, but the meaning behind them is TOTALLY different. Can you really not see that?
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    (Original post by Magnum Opus)
    For crying out loud, comparing one word to another because it sounds the same is never a good way of analysing something. You need to analyse the group behind the name, not the name itself.

    Take this linguistically, preservative in English is considered to be "jam"; in French, preservatif means "condom". The words are similar, in fact, essentially the same, but the meaning behind them is TOTALLY different. Can you really not see that?
    Again with your irrelvent examples...

    Preservative has more than one meaning in the English language, but that is just me pointing that out.

    You are referring to two seperate languages - French and English

    I am referring to the definition of one term. Socialist is Socialist, no matter what context in which it is used. There is only one meaning for Socialist and it is the same meaning in the USSR and the Socialist Party.

    Can I really not see what? Your irrelevent and unaffective answers? Yes I can see that.
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    (Original post by abucha3)
    Socialist is Socialist, no matter what context in which it is used.
    National socialist is the same as liberal socialist?
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    (Original post by abucha3)
    Again with your irrelvent examples...

    Preservative has more than one meaning in the English language, but that is just me pointing that out.

    You are referring to two seperate languages - French and English

    I am referring to the definition of one term. Socialist is Socialist, no matter what context in which it is used. There is only one meaning for Socialist and it is the same meaning in the USSR and the Socialist Party.

    Can I really not see what? Your irrelevent and unaffective answers? Yes I can see that.
    I give up with you on this point, you're not listening at all.

    Tell me some of the policies of this proposed party then?
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    (Original post by Magnum Opus)
    All I want is a clarification of the policies of this party.
    Hear hear.

    So what's your final solution, then guys?
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    (Original post by abucha3)
    Both these groups, use the term 'socialist' and both these groups share Socialits views. Therefore, it is safe to say, according to common sense and logic that the USSR and The Socialist Party share similar views.
    Do you actually know anything about politics or history? Parties don't always name themselves after their actual ideologies, especially not the more extreme parties. British Labour party, Nazi era German Centre party. Neither is a particularly accurate name, especially the latter.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
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    Long time since I covered the politics of Germany before and after WWII but were the German Centre Party the ones who were effectively Christian Democratic Conservatives?
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    (Original post by Cardozo)
    Long time since I covered the politics of Germany before and after WWII but were the German Centre Party the ones who were effectively Christian Democratic Conservatives?
    That kind of thing. Basically, not so much central as right wing religious. Stood up for the Catholic interests in germany at the time, Hitler bought their friendship by saying he'd look out for those interests while in power.

    While I have studied the period, this particular aspect isn't actually my strong point. Others will be better equipped to help you.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    That kind of thing. Basically, not so much central as right wing religious. Stood up for the Catholic interests in germany at the time, Hitler bought their friendship by saying he'd look out for those interests while in power.

    While I have studied the period, this particular aspect isn't actually my strong point. Others will be better equipped to help you.
    That'll do me thanks.
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    (Original post by ajp100688)
    Compulsory serving of asparagus at breakfast time and an abolition of slavery!

    BLACCCKKKKAAADDDDDDDEEERRRRRR ! The compulsory eating of asparagus is all well and fine but whats this ridiculas notion about abolition of slavery .....oh we just put that in there for fun...
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    Sorry I'm about to go extremely ad hominem on this thread, but there are some things people need to know about the OP, which will probably help people understand what the kind of people who have these views are.

    (Original post by logic123)
    if you want to try reverse physchology on me then yeh @)_
    **** reverse pyschology, I'm sorry I was never going to reveal this but I may aswell now you spineless piece of ****.

    You are the most ignorant and hypocritical person I have ever met. Yes met. I went to Sir Roger Manwoods with you, wasn't going to tell you because it was fun for us all reading your ****** up stuff and laughing behind your back but recently you've gone to far.


    You're Nationalist? Wait a minute isn't your dad italian?
    You hate muslims and think its a fairytale religion? Wait a minute aren't your parents pagans?
    You hate immigrants and overseas students? Wait a minute isn't YOUR ******* DAD ITALIAN and didn't you just go to University College Dublin (before dropping out because of the culture) as an OVERSEAS student?


    And how the **** are you nationalist? What have you ever contributed or partaken in that has given you any tendencies towards british culture? You've even said to me before you find it alot of ********. I never see you at any of the local events or festivals. All you ever do is stay in your room revising etc, and then you have the CHEEK to come on here posting cretinous views that you just got out of ignoring facts and reading the odd daily mail.

    You dropped out of university because you don't like the social part, and you've basically admitted on here you hate socialising, correct me if i'm wrong, but that makes you a social outcast. Oh wait, I remember once when you partook in a social event, giving some girls in our class the WRONG answers to physics homework when you were EIGHT ****** TEEN, just so you hoped you'd come out top of the class, i mean sheesh what the hell goes through your mind? I am seriously dreading the day you get through med school.


    You've posted about me on here before, you can probably guess who this is. You think it's unfair that naturally talented people can get away with doing no work and socialising and getting the same grades as you? And that hard working people deserve more? What I call you is a broken tool my friend, you are a fool, A hardworking one i'll give you that, but a fool nontheless. You said before that hardworking asians don't deserve to come here and take the jobs, yet you also say hardworking english people should get jobs over naturally talented people because you aren't? You're mind is laced with hypocrisy. You are EXACTLY what is wrong with this country, not the muslims blacks jews and gypsies. Honestly you're scarily ignorant. What's the point in putting ********* of work in for a decent degree when you've made it so you have **** all else going for you? What you are is an extremely selfish, ignorant and anti-social individual, who in my opinion, hasn't got a ******* clue what he's talking about.



    I know you're not going to reply to this because you won't know how to. So i'll just say wake the **** up.


    (oh and for future reference since you seem to use the word every other post, it's spelt immigrants not AMMAGRANTS you illiterate ****)
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    :rofl: That's awesome.

    (Dolly, rather than burningnun)
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    (Original post by Collingwood)
    This seems to just be the Labour Party but even more anti-immigration.
    Don't be silly
    (Original post by DollydaPoh)
    (oh and for future reference since you seem to use the word every other post, it's spelt immigrants not AMMAGRANTS you illiterate ****)
    THANK YOU!
    (Original post by Alasdair)
    :rofl: That's awesome.

    (Dolly, rather than burningnun)
    Yep
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    First of all, I will say thanks for the PM, i am very suprised you did that. However sending me two PMs which were essentially carbon copies did make it kind of drag.

    (Original post by logic123)
    So let me get this straight? if i drink myself to death with you guys/girls then im no longer a social outcast? very creative. Just another reason why i couldent be arsed to hanf around with you guys. I dont give a crap what you say about me or how much you laugh behind my back, ive grown old of it, had it before, its just another rusy old memory in the back of my head i dont need to remember. I havent clue who you are. kate/marak/keo whoever you are, this is a forum right, not real life, i can troll and say what the hell i want, i never mentioned no names so you have no right to accuse me of anything.

    And i love the fact that one thing i say to george he spreads it around and tells everyone else? you mean who do you think you people are? you dont respect my privacy, i tell george i left UCD for good reasons and it ends up maniupulated in some way to make my life ever worse. What would make you think that i would ever want to socialise with people like yourself? I came to manwoods to do what i needed to do and get away to UNI. I dont need to hang around a crowd of unamaginative people who just like to get pissed for fun. Id rather hang around people who can respect me for who i am and not take the piss because i dont like to get pissed. Unfortunatly people at manwoods didnt really respect the fact i dont party or what ever you people do.

    And im pretty glad you can all have a laugh at my posts tbh at least it gives you something else to do while your spending your time getting slashed with alcohol everynight, might even give you a little longer to live.

    Anyways i dont knowe who you are, if you could identify yourself fine, but seriously, stop using the fact i dont follow the crowd to fuel your ''getting back at me'' attitude. Cause frankly what ever you say 'I dont care' dosent bother me one bit.

    First of all congratulations on missing the main point of my post. I'll now repeat it to get it into your ******* skull;

    You are a ******* hypocrit. You don't know why you want to vote BNP or are nationalist so why the **** do you want to support these parties. Being a nationalist means standing for national values. And if all these immigrants (including your father) are eroding these values, I would like to know exactly what these values are, and why you find them so important. I'd also like to know how you've contributed to society more.


    This leads on to why I think you're a social outcast. You have no respect for other cultures. You have obviously never befriended a muslim or a black person in your life. Hey i'm not saying they're all nice people, but goddamned your views are ridiculous. Oh yeh and also, you don't want asians coming over here but they're the only people you hung around with at school? Has the problem with that not smacked you in the face yet?

    Don't you get it? The main purpose of this post isn't to try and attack you, I posted this to make you realise how stupid you are. And yes, for these reasons I do label you a social outcast. You don't understand non academic things. Fine maybe you do some 'hip' stuff not in with school people, but from when i've spoken to you about your hip cool wicked yeh weekend they seem devoid of anything particulary of note. You did not socialise with people at schools or come to any of the parties when we wanted to get to know you. We tried for so long, Once again you're firing out ignorance by thinking socialising = drinking! It just shows how little you know about socialising. And hey! We're nearly all white british, and you want to preserve our culture, so surely you could help your cause by drinking yourself 'to death' with us every weekend anyway! ******.

    We don't attack you behind your back, EVERYONE who came from other schools said we were one of the least cliquey schools they'd seen, everyone got along with everybody. You isolated yourself because you convinced yourself we were doing that, for no reason at all. You really think we don't have better things to do? What could I possibly be getting back at you for? The reason people had a distaste for you is because you are a terrible human being, and even then we just ignored you instead of bullying you.

    You have these views because you DONT UNDERSTAND PEOPLE.

    I have nothing to get back at you for. Oh and don't say you're trolling, you're not. Trolling is an art, and you're just an ignorant ********. **** I love trolling, but **** like this just makes my teeth grind.


    Meh i cant be arsed finishing this now, i'll finish it later. Please next PM stop focusing on me, and actually explain your views deary x
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    This is bloody brilliant!
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    While amusing, we already knew logic was an idiot. We now know you're a psycho***** :p:

    (Don't stop)
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    Do you actually know anything about politics or history? Parties don't always name themselves after their actual ideologies, especially not the more extreme parties. British Labour party, Nazi era German Centre party. Neither is a particularly accurate name, especially the latter.
    Do you actually have any common sense? It would appear not!

    Your essentially saying that if I were to create a party and named it, "The Nazi Facist Group" I could have Socialist ideologies.

    The name of the party indicates what it is about: The Conservative Party (Conservatism) The Scottish National Party (Independece in Scotland)

    The Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics (Socialism)
    The Socialist Party (Socialism)

    I rest my case. No further comments.
 
 
 
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