bullied for my degree course

I find this very interesting. Let me ask you, what would you make of the decision of someone to reject a uni like LSE in favour of an ex-poly?

True.

Although the arts subjects arent being criticised- non traditional subjects/mickey mouse subjects/soft subjects or whatever you want to call them are whats being criticised- film studies being the target originally.

You said 'you still need people to do the arts subjects otherwise there'll be a shortage...'

yeah, true for arts subjects, but not true for soft subjects (do we need people to do soft subjects to avoid a shortage in those lines of work???).


But yeah, your right, some people or many people on tsr give the impression everyone should study maths /physics etc which is wrong

As the opposite of academic is vocational we would train our doctors, engineers, chemists, biologists, physicists where exactly?

Your sentiment is right, and your motivation is admirable: more people should do degrees because of a love for the subject. However, the attitude is a touch naive.

Someone just quoted Labour's aim of 50% of school leavers entering Uni. The simple fact is, we're discovering very quickly that the job market just can't support the huge numbers of very qualified graduates the system is producing - and something has to give. In a disproportionate amount of cases it's the film and media graduates that are struggling the most. The issue is, huge numbers of people want to work within media, so the media graduates are competing against the very best people with 'more serious' arts degrees from top universities with work experience and, probably, friends/family within the industry, as well as people in the same position as them. And when they can't get a foot in the door, they're competing against people with strong analytical arts and science degrees for more generic roles, and employers just won't look at them.

There are the general '2:2 and above' graduate schemes that they'll be qualified to enter, but unless these schemes are entirely CV-blind - which very few are - I'm not convinced they'll get looked at here either. I'm interviewing next week for a position as a recruitment manager with a small consultancy firm, and having read up on what they require for their consultant positions, they state 'an analytical degree in a serious discipline.' Now, if I get the job, I'm sorry to say that if I have two CVs in front of me, and one is a 2:2 in maths and the other a first in film, it's much more likely the film CV is going to end up in the 'No' pile....

My friend said basically that because I am starting a film and television studies course in september that i shouldn't even be going to uni becose its not a proper degree.

She thinks she is better becose she is doing a maths degree. well i don't agree with this because film studies is a demanding degree and there is lots of demand for this degree. Anyway just needed to vent becose i worked so hard to get into this cource, people need to get real and realise that any degree is worth the same is each other.

At the proper universities.

Please don't tell me that Engineering and Medicine are vocational degrees, because, yeah, they have some vocational elements in it, but they command high academic requirements.

At the proper universities.

Please don't tell me that Engineering and Medicine are vocational degrees, because, yeah, they have some vocational elements in it, but they command high academic requirements.

if you find yourself unemployed (which I do not wish upon you)

My friend said basically that because I am starting a film and television studies course in september that i shouldn't even be going to uni becose its not a proper degree.

She thinks she is better becose she is doing a maths degree. well i don't agree with this because film studies is a demanding degree and there is lots of demand for this degree. Anyway just needed to vent becose i worked so hard to get into this cource, people need to get real and realise that any degree is worth the same is each other.

Indeed. The sad thing is that apart from the OP (obviously a troll) there are actually many people who are led to believe that a degree in media is equivalent to one in a serious subject.

At the proper universities.

Please don't tell me that Engineering and Medicine are vocational degrees, because, yeah, they have some vocational elements in it, but they command high academic requirements.

media is not an 'unimportant' subject as there are a lot of jobs in media and a lot of money to be made in the related industries, it's a serious business

At the proper universities.

Please don't tell me that Engineering and Medicine are vocational degrees, because, yeah, they have some vocational elements in it, but they command high academic requirements.

That's not in question; what is, is whether a media degree is going to help you get those jobs, and the answer is, not really: read my above post and I'll try to dig up some figures.

OP just commited TSR suicide.

In the following order:

1) Title did not have significant capital letter.
2) Poor grammar and spelling. Shudder.
3) 'Degree' and lack of common sense. Some of us have spent years, years preparing ourselves and performing detailed research on degrees and future academics ! When you come swanning in with no knowledge on the matter it's pure disrespectful and some would say insulting.
4) You generally suck.

Do not return to this site on the same account. You will be hacked and terrible things will happen to your family.

You have been warned

not everyone has to or wants to do maths, physics, law etc

if someone wants to better their life by going to uni and experiencing the uni life, then let them

people still get first class degrees from all unis, yeah maybe not as many, but just because you don't go to oxbridge doesn't necessarily mean that you don't have a chance to suceed in whatever course you are doing.

you still need people to do the arts subjects otherwise there will be a shortage of graduates in this field of work and if people prefer arts subjects, then let them do it!