I am poor and want to do a 2nd degree...how to fund this?

So people like winter mute who want to do second degrees in medicine. they're wastrels are they? Those doctors, they don't contribute to society at all!

Did you know that a high proportion of nurses and other health professionals have first degrees in unrelated subjects?

I can see where doing degree after degree until you're 60 and never actually getting a job might be a bit of an issue, but realistically how many people would actually do this? Most people who do second degrees do so in order to get into a specific career or to better their career prospects, leading to them being more productive, not less.

Don't be ridiculous. Anyone wanting to do any of those degrees you mention get funding already. Quite rightly. We need them. It is the whiners who "didn't realise History wouldn't get me a job " that don't deserve any sympathy.

are you thick or something? They get it funded!

That's why I'm glad the govt only funds degrees once. People take the piss, how someone can choose a degree that's not right for them is beyond me.

If you are really motivated then you will work and save up for a masters or whatever you plan to do. There are also bank career development loans available.

Maybe it's time for the workplace and to gain a bit of maturity. It's no longer the nanny state and rightfully so.

I disagree, I studied biomed because I genuinely enjoyed it and wanted to work in the field, however as I got more involved in the course I decided that I wanted to study medicine and work in the public sector.

There are numerous reasons why people decide to do a degree in a particular field, be it money, peer/family pressure or because they have a particular affinity for that subject.

Choosing a degree at 18 can be a mentally tiring process and whilst at Uni many, many people I knew had no idea what they wanted to do in life. Some did Masters to try and focus their interest in something specific, some abandoned their original courses altogether for other things and others have just enjoyed life for a bit.

OP you can receive (maintenance)loans as far as I am aware however you will not be eligible for the tuition fee loan. You can apply for a bank loan which can tide you over for a little while but you will need to find paid work.

I am going down the same route this year and its not going to be easy. Just make sure you genuinely want to do this and that it will benefit you in the long run.

Live with it.

You didn't do your research properly and so you chose the wrong course. Surely you would have realised that you were not a fan of the course within the first year, at which point you could have changed to something you liked more, or dropped out and reapplied.

Also, you must have known before you went travelling that you wanted to do a 2nd degree, so why didn't you stay at home rather than travelling so you had some money to start your 2nd degree.

As thing stand you have 1 option, get a job, save up, and then apply again a few years down the line.

This suggests to me that people going to university are obviously a bit immature to be making important decisions such as choosing the right university degree and possibly need to take time out in the workplace before making such huge decisions. I'm glad the coalition government is putting an end to this nanny state otherwise how will people effectively make career decisions if they are handed things on a plate? I'm glad EMA has been scrapped (I hope whatever they have replaced it with is most appropriate). I'm also glad people like the OP will be unable to get a maintenance grant for their second degree. I'm also glad tuition fees has been raised because that way people will start seriously considering the decisions they make when they go to university and it will also bring back value to university education.

I accept that we all make career shifts and changes but then we need to take full responsibility for that. Why can't the OP accept responsibility for his mistake and self-fund a Masters in Maths? That's because he is used to the nanny state that hands everything on a plate and so he wants to know if they can pay for another degree for him, that's absolutely absurd. If it means taking a few years to work then to do that. If he wants it so much then he will commit to doing so.

I know someone who wanted to do medicine but didn't manage to achieve the grades she needed and so chose to do biomed with the view to go into medicine from then. There was a clear career focus and she also committed to self funding her career therefore, I don't quite liken your situation to the OP's. The OP expects to receive funding for his education, it's not quite the same because he's not taking responsibility.

But what if i want to do a maths degree? I think it'll be hard to do maths masters without having a sufficient grounding at bachelors level. I mean I did a few applied maths modules in my geophysics degree, but no where near the amount i would need for masters i think.

That's a rather unintelligent thing to say. Most people usually go to uni at around age 18 which is very young. At such a young age, with little wisdom experience or knowledge it's not surprising that a lot of people don't know what they want to do.

Also for some people they've known what they wanted to do since they were about 15 or even since a little child, however this is rare. Also there are people that are only good at one thing and have a clear career path because there are no other options.

Some people find it hard to find their calling or passion because they are equally good at everything and have an equal interest in everything.

Sometimes with very difficult courses, often scientific, what you think the course is going to be like is very different to how it actually is. Some courses there's no way you can know what it's like before you get there, all you can have is preconceptions. People do History at a level and then History at uni, Psychology or English lit at a level then the same thing at uni, something like Geophysics is very different.

I find it odd you are unable to understand how someone can choose the wrong subject.

I did a LOT of research when choosing my course. Far more research than anyone that did choose the right course. Your judgement and attitude is poor.

Oh dear, ok I may need to prostitute myself,

Any takers?

For me, studying my degree is what led to my academic development which subsequently fed my disatisfaction for the subject. Hence I am choosing to do a second degree.

I would never have realised this had I not studied my first degree.

It isn't as simple as 'doing the research'.

No hunny, I think an individual choosing to waste three or four years of his or her life is the most unintelligent thing to do.

No hunny, I think an individual choosing to waste three or four years of his or her life is the most unintelligent thing to do.