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    I have surfer-like hair. Medium length and quite flicky. Most people love my hair and if you think that some 14 year old on TSR saying get it cut is a "guide to success with women" then holy shizzle, my ass might assplode from laughter.

    Wash with soap, WAT. The whole thing about clothes...really? Sub-header 3: Don't overthink. LOL WTF TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE POSTING YOU IDIOT. Don't over think? DONT OVER THINK? You're writing a ****ing guide on how to get with a girl.

    Here's mine:

    Don't be a freak. Be yourself.

    Works wonders for me.
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    (Original post by ToastyCoke)
    Don't be a freak. Be yourself.
    Should a freak be themselves? :holmes:
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    (Original post by Ebbson)
    Should a freak be themselves? :holmes:
    No, they should be in their room with the curtains closed playing second life
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    Long hair on men is sweet.
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    Edit: Oops, horrible grammar error in the title.
    "A Basic Mens' Guide to Success with Women"



    1. Appearance - personal
    Get a Haircut - Unless you are an Italian model or a porn star, Long hair is out. On most guys its unattractive, almost always greasy, and usually badly styled. Very few girls prefer long hair on guys (I'm sure many can tolerate it, but why risk it). You might be the exception to this rule, but strongly consider whether you in fact are - Many guys go through a long hair phase around age 17-19, very VERY few people in their mid 20s look back and think it looked good.

    i love my boyfriend with longish hair and i'm sure a lot of other girls like longer hair too.
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    To be honest, these sorts of things are a little silly. Either a girl will like you or not. I remember I went to the park once with this guy I liked and he had very long messy hair, wore slouchy clothes & actually sat in dog poop in the park by accident. Didn't stop me fancying him at all.

    I'd much rather have a guy that was himself (ie. not very suave, doesn't have a model's body, spills drinks all over himself, has a bit of a daft haircut) than some guy who's entirely too in love with himself (makes loads of effort, a bit cocky, spends all his time on grooming).
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    Yes, shaving, washing with soap and not wearing track suits is 'manufacturing what you look like'
    Changing your natural (I do not mean sweaty!) style and behaviour to pander to the perceived needs of women is not good.

    I faked it liked this quite often with women a while ago. That is until I found someone who actually liked me for who I am.
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    Edit: Oops, horrible grammar error in the title.
    "A Basic Mens' Guide to Success with Women"

    The most common dating advice is without doubt "be yourself". Whilst this, on a basic level, is fundamentally true (you shouldn't pretend to be something you are not), it also gives the horribly wrong implication that you should not modify your behaviour if there are things that you are doing that prevent meaningful romantic (and to a degree generally 'social') connections.

    It also is often apparant that some people simply don't realise some very basic elements to being attractive to the opposite sex.

    What I hope to set out below is a list of tips relating to appearance, attitude and the way you act that, to many people, will seem blindingly obvious, but to some may actually help a little. I will use a sarcastic tone become I'm a sarcastic **** in real life, bear with me.
    .....

    Don't overthink - So you had your first date and it went quite well? now you start worrying about when to text her, what her texts or lack of them mean, analysing what she said during the date.... STOP. All of this is bull****. Some (generally broken) people like to play games, but you can win these games by refusing to play. Wait until you next want to see the girl, call her, and ask her out again. No need to have a strategy, no need to ignore her 2 days, just play it by ear (but always bear in mind the 2 points above, not too keen, upfront about intentions).

    4. Project Confidence
    Really all these tips are to help with this final point. Everything comes down to confidence. The best thing about confidence is, you cant fake it. Or rather, if you successfully fake it you aren't faking it, its real! There are lots of 'tricks' to help you appear confident (and therefore be confident), examples are to pick the bar or restaurant for your date without hesitation (knowing some cool, interesting places is extremely helpful), choosing wine for both of you with a meal, and eventually going for a goodnight kiss. Force yourself to be bold, and you will become bold!

    One last thing - don't worry about rejection, its no big deal and at the end of the day, its THEIR loss.

    Good luck
    As sad as it may be to mention, you forgot wealth as a major attractiveness requirement for men. The most sexually successful man I know dresses badly, has below average looks, a rather horrid personality but bags of cash. And it works. The best part is that the gorgeous girls he ends up with aren't there because of their goldigging instinct but are genuinely aroused by him for his material success.

    Also the best tip I can think of is to just smile and keep eye contact. Single most efficient technique I've used.
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    Typical generic "THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS SO ANY GENERALISATION IS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS" bull**** TSR post. There are tonnes of these in literally every thread....

    Use your brain, the point is not that there aren't exceptions, there obviously are. Hitler, Stalin and Carrot Top have all had a girlfriend. Some women are attracted to fat smelly guys.

    That doesnt in any way undermine a generalisation that applies to the vast majority of women.
    Bro STFU! Do you honestly believe that most women fancy 'squares'? If you do I can tell you probably suck at getting women yourself. IMO this thread is utter BS, I'm pretty sure that all women don't fancy the same type of guy, infact in most cases arn't they after someone unique? Someone who stand's out from the croud... not someone who is a sheep and follows in what they think is the correct way to attract girls according to some random TSR.
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    Yep, done all that thanks and still nothing, any suggestions??
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    I agree with most of your points. However, some people just don't look good with short hair. I have my hair medium length. I do suit shorter hair, and have been told I look good either way by my female friends and girlfriends, but I have the dreaded double crown which means if my hair is too short, it sticks up unkempt and goes right against your neat and tidy advice.

    As for my facial hair, I go over my beard with a grade 1 trimmer every 3-4 days, and shave the neck stubble as required to maintain a stubbly appearance.
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    Great advice, though as a girl I personally disagree with some of the clothing advice - hoodies and beards and shaggy hair are great for me. But you're probably right that it's safer to go without those. Seems kind of a shame to discourage individual dressing but what you say is probably best for attracting the most girls! (Not that that is necessarily what a man should be prioritising.)

    I think my favourite advice of yours was about picking the the restaurant and wine as "easy" ways to appear confident - makes a surprising difference and it's not the kind of thing many guys would think of.

    Quick aside - your title is correct! The correction stated in your OP is the wrong one. So ignore so-called "pedants" who try to point out your "mistake", as it's not a mistake at all.
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    Mentally and emotionally unstable and few stay in the scene past their early 20s though, so why bother?
    I'll repeat myself:

    Gothic girls are :sogood:
    Seem to be quite dirty in my experience too :sexface:

    So what's not to like? :holmes:
    I seem to be the "unstable girls" type anyway, judging by my past ex's. Not all of them have been Gothic.

    Also, it's a bit harsh to label every Gothic girl as "mentally and emotionally unstable" :eyeball:
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    Lol I love when men write guides on how to get women, they are always so pathetic and hint that there's only one type of man that women go for.

    Plus long hair is unattractive? I beg to differ...
    http://hairstylesarea.com/hair-pic/H...b8d3bfb2f2.jpg

    Not extremely long but it is longer than typical and he is so gorgeous... I have had many boyfriends with hair longer than this and I wouldn't say it was unattractive at all.
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    You forget to include this.

    Large penis.

    Requires a larger than average penor to satisfy he loins and throat of the woman you want to hang with.

    However, no size of penis can make up for a loose fanny and a sucky BJ so if she blows *cough* at doing the dirty, kick her out.
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    (Original post by Linweth)
    Lol I love when men write guides on how to get women, they are always so pathetic and hint that there's only one type of man that women go for.

    Plus long hair is unattractive? I beg to differ...
    http://hairstylesarea.com/hair-pic/H...b8d3bfb2f2.jpg

    Not extremely long but it is longer than typical and he is so gorgeous... I have had many boyfriends with hair longer than this and I wouldn't say it was unattractive at all.
    Haha tbf if you look like Brad Pitt it doesn't matter what your hair looks like... Maybe only ugly people have to worry about having fashionable hair to improve their looks :holmes:
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    I love how pretty much every critical post is from someone who thinks they (or their boyfriend) is the exception and this somehow means the general rules are wrong.

    TSR hint: just because there are exceptions doesnt make the general rule wrong. If everyone on this forum accepted that 99% of argument would die out (which would be a boring shame, of course).

    Anyway, I've realised that quite a lot of the problem with my 'guide' is that it is mostly targetted at guys in their mid 20s who have started their careers rather than students/schoolkids. A bit silly on a student forum, but I only ceased to be a student a year ago so :P.

    Sub-cultures like gothic, grunge etc massively diminish in importance (and become much more fringe) by this point, so the generic 'clean, well dressed' look becomes much more relevant. I accept this guide is near useless to someone in a stoner / grungey / goth clique at school or uni.

    The thing is, you wont be in that clique forever, at least for people in the vast majority of professions, as most careers (not all, admittedly) require a certain degree of homogeneity.

    Finally, its hilarious to see 1/3 saying "so obvious its not even worth saying", 1/3 saying "so wrong its not even worth reading" and 1/3 (mostly girls) saying "good tips, more guys should act on them"!
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    I love how pretty much every critical post is from someone who thinks they (or their boyfriend) is the exception and this somehow means the general rules are wrong.

    TSR hint: just because there are exceptions doesnt make the general rule wrong. If everyone on this forum accepted that 99% of argument would die out (which would be a boring shame, of course).

    Anyway, I've realised that quite a lot of the problem with my 'guide' is that it is mostly targetted at guys in their mid 20s who have started their careers rather than students/schoolkids. A bit silly on a student forum, but I only ceased to be a student a year ago so :P.

    Sub-cultures like gothic, grunge etc massively diminish in importance (and become much more fringe) by this point, so the generic 'clean, well dressed' look becomes much more relevant. I accept this guide is near useless to someone in a stoner / grungey / goth clique at school or uni.

    The thing is, you wont be in that clique forever, at least for people in the vast majority of professions, as most careers (not all, admittedly) require a certain degree of homogeneity.

    Finally, its hilarious to see 1/3 saying "so obvious its not even worth saying", 1/3 saying "so wrong its not even worth reading" and 1/3 (mostly girls) saying "good tips, more guys should act on them"!
    Any tips on what to do after getting a number or an a 'date'? Whevener i've got a number off a girl i seem to overthink the **** out of it and it never go's further than a couple of texts (or a lot of texts that lead nowhere)
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    (Original post by TheOneCurlyFry)
    Any tips on what to do after getting a number or an a 'date'? Whevener i've got a number off a girl i seem to overthink the **** out of it and it never go's further than a couple of texts (or a lot of texts that lead nowhere)
    This is going to be a bit hypocritical given that I have said not to overthink things, but will become second nature with time and therefore wont require too much thinking:

    It's very easy to scare someone off with too many texts too quickly implying basically 'too keen'. My friends who are girls all state this as a big turn off in the early days. The key point to avoid overthinking 'strategy' is to simply take your lead from them - if they only text you every 3 days and reply many hours after you text them, do the same.

    To be honest though, you are right that worrying about this stuff is overthinking, just try to not go overboard, any happy medium is preferred (like most things there is a balance to be struck, in this case between overthinking and not wanting to seem too keen).

    My strongest tip for a second date is, the next day, to boldly suggest a time and place for another date, without even making it a question. For example:

    "Hey Sarah, had a great time last night, how about drinks/dinner Friday, meet at 8 x"

    or, if you are feeling confident after an excellent first date, something cockier people can pull off is something like:

    "Dinner, [Restaurant], 8pm Friday. Dress up xx"

    Both of these are much better than something open ended and lacking in confidence like:

    "hey, really nice to meet you... [random crap about something you talked about, no invitation]"
    or
    "hey, really nice to meet you, do you want to meet up again some time?"

    In response to the first two, she will either say "sure", or, if she really does already have plans, she will feel pressured to reply with a counter-plan. If she replies with "can't do friday sorry" or similar, you are probably **** out of luck and should fire off something casual along the lines of "No worries, let me know next time you are free", and then leave it - assume she wasn't in to you and forget about her. It'll be a nice surprise if you later get a message suggesting thursday or whatever.
 
 
 
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