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    I had to read quite a lot of paragraphs in 'a brief history of time' a few times before I could figure out what they meant.
    I also just really don't get Shakespeare without aid, I can't get my head around the old English.
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      (Original post by Addzter)
      I haven't, no. Could you recommend any? I quite enjoyed 1984.
      Fahrenheit 451 is a good one. And, to a lesser extent, Brave New World.

      There's also a film (good or bad, you can judge ) called Equilibrium with Christian Bale which sort of combines the concepts of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.

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      Jodi Picoult's *******s. I've read 3 now and Handle with Care was just the pits. I won't ruin it for anyone, but the ending is so unnecessary I swear the bloody woman has issues.
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      Yep,
      1984 - I did love the book but at the end I was thinking 'eh?', had to read back to take in what happened. :lolwut: Does anyone know any other books quite like it? I do like it's dysotopian genre.

      Also I have thought it when I have read any Jodi Picoult book... they are rambling unrealistic pieces of overrated bull****. I just think 'What?! Who would waste their time publishing or reading this crap?'.
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      (Original post by markrush)
      Gobsmacked! You have written pretty much my usual description and list of books. This includes A Clockwork Orange and Brazil, even if it is a film. Still have The Handmaids Tale to read. Have you read Never Let Me Go yet? More modern but amazing.

      What else. Ah Phillip K ****. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep and VALIS are really excellent.

      Kudos on your taste and choice of course. I did Astrophysics, Computing and Law. this gave me a rather interesting perspective for a few short stories/books. Still not sure where they are going in length yet but the structure is complete. If anything just for my pleasure, but maybe they will be enjoyed by some others as well.
      AH! Finally someone else! No one I know has ANY interest in any of these novels! This has genuinely made my week! I've yet to read Never Let Me Go but it's on my list (as is are the others)! Did you know it's been adapted into a film? It's being released next year in Feburary.

      Yeah I do Philosophy with English literature. I was planning on doing half and half but I hated lit. in my first year it was nothing like I expected it but the only reason I'm keeping it is so I can do those modules! Your couse sounds intense! How did you get a moment to breathe!?

      I remeber having to chose two texts for my comparison essay for my lit. A level and after looking at different novels and considering different themes I didn't find anything that grabbed me. I then read the first line of 1984 and that was it!

      A Handmaids Tale is ok. I loved the idea of it but personally found it difficult to read. I should give some of her other novels a go though.
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      (Original post by doloroushazy)
      hell yeah.. I went crazy a few years ago and just read every post-apocalyptic novel i could find! death of grass is horrifically depressing! Have you read On The Beach? it's brilliant..
      Galapagos by Vonnegut is also oddly uplifting! have you read any more of Atwood? i really liked Oryx and Crake and the Year of the Flood.

      I quite liked Kallocain as well (it's essentially the Swedish version of 1984)

      See I'd like to read more of Atwood but I don't know if I'll just end up forcing myself to read it and not enjoy it? I've been a little put off after The Handmaids Tale. Maybe in the summer I'll check her out some more and give her a chance!

      Ooh Swedish version of 1984!? Interesting. I'll have a look.

      I'm getting a nice stack of books to work my way through now!
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      Certain of Chekhov's short stories.
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      (Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
      Fahrenheit 451 is a good one. And, to a lesser extent, Brave New World.

      There's also a film (good or bad, you can judge ) called Equilibrium with Christian Bale which sort of combines the concepts of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.

      :jive:
      Fahrenheit 451 is one of those books I've always wanted to read but have never actually got around to. I think I might just buy it from Amazon tonight.
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        (Original post by Addzter)
        Fahrenheit 451 is one of those books I've always wanted to read but have never actually got around to. I think I might just buy it from Amazon tonight.
        You better. :hmmm:



        (Original post by mellie220)
        Does anyone know any other books quite like it? I do like it's dysotopian genre.
        Yup - Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and A Handmaids Tale.

        Although it should be noted that, whilst they carry the same core themes, they are not too similar to 1984. They are the leading books in the dystopian genre though.
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        (Original post by TVC15)
        AH! Finally someone else! No one I know has ANY interest in any of these novels! This has genuinely made my week! I've yet to read Never Let Me Go but it's on my list (as is are the others)! Did you know it's been adapted into a film? It's being released next year in Feburary.

        Yeah I do Philosophy with English literature. I was planning on doing half and half but I hated lit. in my first year it was nothing like I expected it but the only reason I'm keeping it is so I can do those modules! Your couse sounds intense! How did you get a moment to breathe!?

        I remeber having to chose two texts for my comparison essay for my lit. A level and after looking at different novels and considering different themes I didn't find anything that grabbed me. I then read the first line of 1984 and that was it!

        A Handmaids Tale is ok. I loved the idea of it but personally found it difficult to read. I should give some of her other novels a go though.
        I second this; looks like we made each others week! It's such a shame he died before Blade Runner was premièred, I think he would have utterly loved the interpretation. Never Let Me Go is so worth the read but I am a little worried about the film. To me that world is created and I see it well. I just have this feeling that the only thing that they can do is ruin it in some way. Did you work out the real story of VALIS at all? From the first few pages there was something about it that made me realise that this was more than just a book and I guessed the real truth/

        Do you have a particular area of your degree course you are looking to specialise in? I have to admit that it was a mix of undergrad and postgrad. Although for the postgrad I did 14 undergrad modules in 1 year once for a postgrad. That was intense!

        Okay then so the question now is, what are you guilty pleasure books/films?
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        (Original post by TVC15)
        See I'd like to read more of Atwood but I don't know if I'll just end up forcing myself to read it and not enjoy it? I've been a little put off after The Handmaids Tale. Maybe in the summer I'll check her out some more and give her a chance!

        Ooh Swedish version of 1984!? Interesting. I'll have a look.

        I'm getting a nice stack of books to work my way through now!
        I always get such mixed reviews of the Handmaid's Tale, I feel I need to read it!
        but her other stuff is really really readable I think.
        It's similar to Brave New World tooo, it's rate good. it's about a government scientist called Leo Kall who develops a drug which forces people to tell the truth (it sounds like a kid's book hah, it's honestly not)
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        (Original post by markrush)
        I second this; looks like we made each others week! It's such a shame he died before Blade Runner was premièred, I think he would have utterly loved the interpretation. Never Let Me Go is so worth the read but I am a little worried about the film. To me that world is created and I see it well. I just have this feeling that the only thing that they can do is ruin it in some way. Did you work out the real story of VALIS at all? From the first few pages there was something about it that made me realise that this was more than just a book and I guessed the real truth/

        Do you have a particular area of your degree course you are looking to specialise in? I have to admit that it was a mix of undergrad and postgrad. Although for the postgrad I did 14 undergrad modules in 1 year once for a postgrad. That was intense!

        Okay then so the question now is, what are you guilty pleasure books/films?
        I'm the same I'm very iffy about film adaptions (and occasionally stage). They're never going to match the book, nor will they ever compete with my imagination and what I picture it. Saying that I'm curious to see how other people interpret texts, their visions and how they feel the characters. They had a stage adaption of 1984 in Kingston a few weeks ago and I'd have loved to have seen how they'd perform that. I think I read somewhere that there was a production of A Clockwork Orange at the Edingburgh Fringe Festival and I imagine that would have been very interesing to see!

        I think I've only really dipped my toes in this genre but i'm putting together a list of all the books I need/want to read! I haven't got round to VALIS yet!

        Oh goodness me! If it would be anything it would be this! There's a few modules for the MA in lit. that I think would be amazing to do, like 'Reading the Vampire: Science, Sexuality and Alterity in Modern Culture' and 'Sex. Class and Violence: Studies in Literature and Film'. I think they'd be awesome if a contrast to dystopian lit. Don't know if I could keep going for an MA though!

        Blimey you sound like you had your work cut out for you! Kept you busy at least! Ha!

        I've a question for you (although I can already guess your answer), do you think it's paradoxical that people are moved by fiction, even though it's not actually real? It losely relates to an essay I'm doing, sort of a branch of it in another direction. The same goes with horror and tragedy. Do you think we can enjoy and find pleasure in watching a horror film or a tragic play? I'm just curious to hear your views on it really!

        For my guilty pleasures.. well. I do rather like the film Labyrinth. Or maybe love. It's pretty awful but at the same time awesome! And my book it stems from my obession with Phantom of the Opera. A woman called Susan Kay wrote a book called Phantom and I was captivated by it. She's given Erik a complete backstory, I love her version of Erik, I feel I can really feel the character. For both I frequently read peoples fanfiction on them..
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        (Original post by TVC15)
        I'm the same I'm very iffy about film adaptions (and occasionally stage). They're never going to match the book, nor will they ever compete with my imagination and what I picture it. Saying that I'm curious to see how other people interpret texts, their visions and how they feel the characters. They had a stage adaption of 1984 in Kingston a few weeks ago and I'd have loved to have seen how they'd perform that. I think I read somewhere that there was a production of A Clockwork Orange at the Edingburgh Fringe Festival and I imagine that would have been very interesing to see!

        I think I've only really dipped my toes in this genre but i'm putting together a list of all the books I need/want to read! I haven't got round to VALIS yet!

        Oh goodness me! If it would be anything it would be this! There's a few modules for the MA in lit. that I think would be amazing to do, like 'Reading the Vampire: Science, Sexuality and Alterity in Modern Culture' and 'Sex. Class and Violence: Studies in Literature and Film'. I think they'd be awesome if a contrast to dystopian lit. Don't know if I could keep going for an MA though!

        Blimey you sound like you had your work cut out for you! Kept you busy at least! Ha!

        I've a question for you (although I can already guess your answer), do you think it's paradoxical that people are moved by fiction, even though it's not actually real? It losely relates to an essay I'm doing, sort of a branch of it in another direction. The same goes with horror and tragedy. Do you think we can enjoy and find pleasure in watching a horror film or a tragic play? I'm just curious to hear your views on it really!

        For my guilty pleasures.. well. I do rather like the film Labyrinth. Or maybe love. It's pretty awful but at the same time awesome! And my book it stems from my obession with Phantom of the Opera. A woman called Susan Kay wrote a book called Phantom and I was captivated by it. She's given Erik a complete backstory, I love her version of Erik, I feel I can really feel the character. For both I frequently read peoples fanfiction on them..
        Excellent question. Just in the city until late; you've given me something to think about and answer later
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        (Original post by medbh4805)
        :zomg: What? That's my favourite book of all time :pierre: I love Dostoevsky :cry2:

        Also

        Reading Philosophy in the Bedroom when you are thirteen is not a good idea. It'll **** you up badly :no:
        I had no noble aspersions, I'd read somewhere that you'll learn all you need to know in life from the Brothers Karamazov and picked it up and ran with it... do you think I ought to try to read it again? is it a big undertaking?

        ahah what is wrong with philosophy in the bedroom?
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        (Original post by TVC15)
        See I'd like to read more of Atwood but I don't know if I'll just end up forcing myself to read it and not enjoy it? I've been a little put off after The Handmaids Tale. Maybe in the summer I'll check her out some more and give her a chance!

        Ooh Swedish version of 1984!? Interesting. I'll have a look.

        I'm getting a nice stack of books to work my way through now!
        Atwood is a genius when she's writing realistic fiction.

        Cat's Eye, and Oryx and Crake are definatly ones you should read
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        I was totally perplexed by "Kafka on the beach". In fact I don't think I understood any of it. I did like the writing though.
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        (Original post by spacepirate-James)
        Atwood is a genius when she's writing realistic fiction.

        Cat's Eye, and Oryx and Crake are definatly ones you should read

        See people keep saying that she's good! I best give her another go!
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        (Original post by Hylean)
        The Castle by Kafka.

        Utter mind melt, the last one.
        I didn't even finish it :teehee:

        Although I have to say Catch-22 puzzled me a whole lot. But I loved it either way..
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        (Original post by Hylean)
        I know! Gods, I forced myself to finish that book, it was so dense. Just utterly melted my brain. I have no intention of reading it again.
        Granted Kafka never finished writing that book, I think it's excusable that we don't understand it.
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        (Original post by Vadis)
        Granted Kafka never finished writing that book, I think it's excusable that we don't understand it.
        The book isn't comprehensible, regardless of where you are in it. Either he's a really bad writer; it was an exceptionally rough draft; or he just tripped on some amazing drugs and wrote a mind melt of a book. I'm for the third option.
       
       
       
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