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    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    You are aware they get paid about £20 an hour?
    Many girls think this covers all the 'down sides' of the job.
    Uh, try adding a zero to the end of that, you'd be nearer.
    Actually from my friend who does it I hear it's about £80-150 an hour.
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    I don't know which is more degrading, the stripping or the sad inadequate men who go to watch.
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    it's nice !!! :borat:
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    There is always a slightly twisted feminist dichotomy when debates such as these come up, for it is a triumph for some that such extroverted displays of their own sexuality are acceptable in the modern world - and an ongoing belief for others that such a situation has never truly come about; merely, in its place, are various means of exacerbating the sexuality of men. Part of me believes that for stripping to be demeaning, there would need to be a better perception of which party was in control of the social situation: is that the male, with his endless supply of money and fantasies, or the stripper, with her knowledge of the rules and ability to leave the job at will? That the gender roles in this line of work are interchangeable complicates the issue even further. It is my belief that prostitution is demeaning, but for those working elsewhere in the sex industry, that description is far less applicable.
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    I see little wrong with it. I don't think it's sad to go, most who do have had plenty of relationships. It's just an empty/unsubstantiated stereotype to say otherwise.
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    (Original post by Wildebeest)
    There is always a slightly twisted feminist dichotomy when debates such as these come up, for it is a triumph for some that such extroverted displays of their own sexuality are acceptable in the modern world - and an ongoing belief for others that such a situation has never truly come about; merely, in its place, are various means of exacerbating the sexuality of men. Part of me believes that for stripping to be demeaning, there would need to be a better perception of which party was in control of the social situation: is that the male, with his endless supply of money and fantasies, or the stripper, with her knowledge of the rules and ability to leave the job at will? That the gender roles in this line of work are interchangeable complicates the issue even further. It is my belief that prostitution is demeaning, but for those working elsewhere in the sex industry, that description is far less applicable.
    Prostitution can be a very rewarding experience if the conditions are right. Of course, most prostitutes face horrendous work conditions and lose their dignity every day. However some manage to become escorts and are able to exert huge power over a wide circle of influential clients and achieve a high end salary with flexible hours, controlled conditions, security, even romance and pleasure as the men treat them better than their own partners. (I can't believe I got that data from an economics book)
    Doesn't sound degrading at all to me.
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    (Original post by ilickbatteries)
    Seems like quite a strange thing to say, doesn't it!

    Of course, if a woman wanted to use her body to make money, that's fine fair enough. The women I feel sorry for are the ones who have to display their half-naked bodies every night because they have no other way of making money. I imagine there are a fair few strippers who feel degraded but can't really get a better job.

    I'd just get the impression that most of them really don't want to be there...
    this to be honest, I don't have anything against women who do it for the money and enjoy it, but on the other hand the women who don't have a choice, because they have children to feed or got kicked out from their house or something, they must feel degraded and must be unhappy. in my opinion anyway.
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    (Original post by darkxangel)
    this to be honest, I don't have anything against women who do it for the money and enjoy it, but on the other hand the women who don't have a choice, because they have children to feed or got kicked out from their house or something, they must feel degraded and must be unhappy. in my opinion anyway.
    but how is that different from any other job?
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    (Original post by boba)
    but how is that different from any other job?
    hmmm, well for example if you are a baker you won't get grabbed, leered at, insulted or looked down by some people (especially the older generation), your kid won't get raped whilst waiting for you when you are stripping (this actually happens a lot ) and me personally can't imagine liking being groped and stuff. well obviously this is not always the case and i might have some points wrong since I've never went to a strip club/bar.
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    (Original post by darkxangel)
    your kid won't get raped whilst waiting for you when you are stripping (this actually happens a lot )
    :lolwut:
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    (Original post by tailschao)
    :lolwut:
    I know I heard about in the news quite a lot.
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    (Original post by darkxangel)
    hmmm, well for example if you are a baker you won't get grabbed, leered at, insulted or looked down by some people (especially the older generation), your kid won't get raped whilst waiting for you when you are stripping (this actually happens a lot ) and me personally can't imagine liking being groped and stuff. well obviously this is not always the case and i might have some points wrong since I've never went to a strip club/bar.
    Yes but if you're a trash collector, you will be leered, insulted and looked down upon. And if you're a footballer you will be grabbed. Can I have a source stating strippers children are regularly raped?
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    Whether it is their choice or not, I believe it's degrading. It brings down their level. Just my opinion.
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    (Original post by OceanSoul)
    Whether it is their choice or not, I believe it's degrading. It brings down their level. Just my opinion.
    Their level? Like in an RPG?
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    (Original post by History-Student)
    Their level? Like in an RPG?
    Not sure if you attempted a joke but anyway. Their 'moral' level. Their dignity.
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    (Original post by OceanSoul)
    Not sure if you attempted a joke but anyway. Their 'moral' level. Their dignity.
    Not really a joke, more sarcasm tbh.

    Dignity is over-rated anyway.
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    (Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
    Yes but if you're a trash collector, you will be leered, insulted and looked down upon. And if you're a footballer you will be grabbed. Can I have a source stating strippers children are regularly raped?
    hmm, i'm pretty sure that footballers like getting grabbed, i mean which guy wouldn't (assuming they are male) and i never said that being a trash collector wasn't degrading (i have nothing against them, i mean someone's gotta do it), however i think that most people would look down on strippers more so than trash collectors (well i don't look down upon someone based on their career, but others certainly do).

    About the rape thing, I watched a documentary where they said that children from single mum strippers are more likely to get molested/raped, but it might have been about prostitutes so that is not really reliable, but my original point was that i don't have anything against women who have different options, but chose this job, because they like it or something, however it is different for women who don't have different options and don't actually like it, it would feel degrading to them...
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    (Original post by darkxangel)
    hmm, i'm pretty sure that footballers like getting grabbed, i mean which guy wouldn't (assuming they are male) and i never said that being a trash collector wasn't degrading (i have nothing against them, i mean someone's gotta do it), however i think that most people would look down on strippers more so than trash collectors (well i don't look down upon someone based on their career, but others certainly do).

    About the rape thing, I watched a documentary where they said that children from single mum strippers are more likely to get molested/raped, but it might have been about prostitutes so that is not really reliable, but my original point was that i don't have anything against women who have different options, but chose this job, because they like it or something, however it is different for women who don't have different options and don't actually like it, it would feel degrading to them...
    I meant getting grabbed whilst on the pitch by other players either when they're celebrating or just generally when they're very close to each other. I don't necessarily think that's true that strippers are looked down more than trash collectors.

    So, you're saying because they don't have other options it's degrading? If so, aren't most jobs degrading then? I mean most people can't just up and leave, they need their job.
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    (Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
    I meant getting grabbed whilst on the pitch by other players either when they're celebrating or just generally when they're very close to each other. I don't necessarily think that's true that strippers are looked down more than trash collectors.

    So, you're saying because they don't have other options it's degrading? If so, aren't most jobs degrading then? I mean most people can't just up and leave, they need their job.
    what i meant was for example if you are a baker/teacher/shop assistant, there is no social stigma, you don't feel bad about yourself and etc. But if you are a stripper not by choice you will feel degraded (as most girls don't like being grabbed/groped and touched by strangers, but some do enjoy it) and there is a social stigma (also you were probably bought up thinking it was a bad/shameful thing) - I am not saying i agree with it, but it is probably the case for women who didn't have a choice.
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    I'm aware of both arguments, with one arguing that it's a womens perogative to work how she wants and to show whatever she desires to. However I can see how degrading and dismal the job and its conditions may be.

    On a personal opinion, I think its degrading and even women without a substantial amount of intelligence should see, that there are a number of different paths for them to follow. Without galabanting around egotistical men.

    I also see the "girls" themselves as iresponsible and imoral, due to the arguments in a domestic relationship caused by visiting strip clubs. What moralistic women would openly want to be the reason for the deconstruction of the domestic lives of other people? The majority of these women have young children, they'are unfit mothers if they think that's an appropriate way to spend a life.
 
 
 
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