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    (Original post by honeyandlemon)
    Too be honest OP, this probably isn't the right place to post something like this. The TSR in general is really racist. Not to mention people are really insensitive and rude on this forum.
    I 10000% agree with this. Loads of ignorant and intolerant minded people on here it's scary. I recall a post made by a troll a few months ago which said Mosques should be knocked down with all the people inside, and it received a significant number of positive reps.

    It's like Stormfront sometimes on here. Doubt it all you want.
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    (Original post by Zenomorph)
    That my command of English is excellent is by the by.

    Deal with the issue

    Institutional Racism against Chinese which is ignored by the usual cadre of left wing BS artist.
    Is it 'institutional'? There are many Chinese men employed in positions of significant influence across the banking sector, engineering sector, IT sector etc. particularly in London and they will very often have a client base that is international. It's the same story in the Netherlands.

    I don't think many people doubt these men's proficiency in the English language - furthermore even if they aren't fully fluent that often doesn't hold them back in a technical role. The average Chinese man's command of the English (and French, and possibly German) langauges is often quite superior to the average Westerner's command of Mandarin.
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    (Original post by effofex)
    Is it 'institutional'? There are many Chinese men employed in positions of significant influence across the banking sector, engineering sector, IT sector etc. particularly in London and they will very often have a client base that is international. It's the same story in the Netherlands.

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    Help! Just a quick question on the topic of this thread! Am I more likely to suffer Racism at Durham University, or UCL? Say I'm an average Indian Muslim, and My Name Is Khan.

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    I go to a Russell Group university where there are quite a lot of upper/middle-class white people from the South. Obviously, I don't have a problem with this. I'm half Asian, however, and because of this I don't look like I'm from any particular minority often born in the UK (e.g. I don't look clearly BBC or like a Pakistani girl born in the UK). People have often asked if I'm everything from Brazilian to Spanish upon meeting me. However, I've lived in England all my life, dress perfectly normally and consider myself British. I am sick and tired of the casual racism I face on a day-to-day basis at uni.

    I've been at uni for three years (I'm doing a long course) and the amount of casual racism I face here (compared to in my home city where ethnic minorities are very common) is absolutely disgusting. I have a lot of international friends as well and they often encounter it too, and though they don't seem to pick up on it it's definitely there. I hate to say it, but it's often usually the stereotypical middle-class white British people who act like that as well.

    As the course I'm doing is quite small I don't have many coursemates and I sometimes sit in the computer room on my own between lectures. At least five times in the last semester (when I've been really busy and in there quite a lot) people have passed me and been like "That Asian girl is so weird" or "That girl looks so tired." "Which one?" "Oh... the Asian one." It's absolutely ridiculous. Obviously I appreciate that it's not just white people who are racist but in my case it's always been them. Once I just sat down and started working in the same row as one of the girls whom I'd heard making a comment like that, and she started huffing for ages and glaring in my direction. I did so back but it was just stupid. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the way I was acting, it was clearly just because I was "Asian". I often walk through the library past groups of white blonde girls and get dirty looks.

    I'm not considered "weird" in any other sense (I have plenty of friends, I dress and act normally like I said, I speak like a normal British person and so on). I feel like people continually ostracise me and put me down just for the fact that I look different.

    We have something called a "Spotted" Facebook page where you can send in stuff about people you see around uni and this gets posted anonymously. Usually this is just people trying to hit on each other, but a lot of the time people will send in ridiculous things like "To the Chinese person sitting in the cafe... oh wait, that's all of them" or "To the people (no need to mention of what nationality) who always sound like a flock of birds in the SU cafe" and then people will make casually racist comments.

    Why the hell are some white British people (usually southern and affluent ones, though I'm not trying to generalise here) so obnoxious, stuck-up and casually racist? Why do they see Asian people as inferior? How do I deal with people like that when I see them?
    i havent seen anything racist from your post so far... simply saying asian does not count... someone glaring at you =/= racism...
    give actual examples...

    unless you actually have something racist happen to you, dont use the bloody race card, also consider the possibility that you are being over sensitive... the last thing people want is dopey people adding more tension between races by playing the race card...generally people are quite tolerant here, you get some dopey people but you get that with any country... its damn annoying to unnecessarily be accused of racism...

    im asian, born and raised here and finishing my second year of uni at a russell group uni too (no real need to point out being a russell group uni, just looks a bit arrogant IMHO) also... im not calling you a liar or anything, but there are clearly plausible reasons to explain everything including you over reacting... accusing someone of racism is a severe thing to do, you better hope you have your facts straight
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    (Original post by S4LM4N)
    I 10000% agree with this. Loads of ignorant and intolerant minded people on here it's scary. I recall a post made by a troll a few months ago which said Mosques should be knocked down with all the people inside, and it received a significant number of positive reps.

    It's like Stormfront sometimes on here. Doubt it all you want.


    (Original post by honeyandlemon)
    Too be honest OP, this probably isn't the right place to post something like this. The TSR in general is really racist. Not to mention people are really insensitive and rude on this forum.

    Racism is the sad reality of life. It does not need to be blatant to have prevalence. I regret going to the North but hey, I'll head back down to the South East/London once University is over with and hopefully make better friends than I have done here. I think I've learnt from going to the north that as an ethnic minority in the UK, it tends to be much better to stick to multicultural areas.

    i call bull to these... a few racists on here =/= tsr is generally racist... consider the number of racist posts compared to the sheer number of accounts on here, also note that criticizing/disagreeing with something =/= racism
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hardly. I've had Chinese friends have their accents loudly mocked as soon as they turned their backs by students who were selling us tickets for nights out, and one of my Indian best friends didn't get to know her flatmates in first year for ages because apparently "they thought people from that culture didn't drink" and so never invited her out or to parties where there was always alcohol, even though she told me she was making a real effort to get along with them.

    Even the British born Asians at my uni (who tend to socialise amongst themselves and join all the same societies) have agreed with me that they've noticed a certain attitude towards people from a particular background. I would rather not have to deal with this, but sometimes it's staring you straight in the face.
    Sounds like they think ethnic people don't have feelings or won't feel upset about this subtle discrimination, either that or they don't care. Which is a sign of malice.
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    (Original post by ChampEon)
    Lol It's just hilarious how the OP is constantly being singled out as being Asian by 'subtle' bullies and yet somehow all the posters on here (whom I presume are white) are acting as if they're the victims and that the OP isn't being wronged in any way. Wake up and realise that while it's not a bad thing to defend your race, it shouldn't be done all the time!

    I agree with what you're saying.
    That's the problem highlighted by Jane Elliot in her psychological experiments. The fact that white people are denying their racial attitudes is because they don't know what racism feels first hand not just on ONE OCCASION, but all your life from the time you're an infant at nursery to whenever.

    They deny it exists means that it can't be addressed which perpetuates it. Just exercise a bit of imagination to think about what you're saying, whether it's a generalisation that does injustice to the individual and also do you not have moral qualms about saying horrid things behind somebody's back just to make you feel better about yourself?
    Just because the person can't hear you doesn't make it 'not' wrong.

    Is there no way of making you feel better about your self esteem without putting other people down or ridiculing them?

    It's only a matter of turning the tables. How would you feel to be talked about in front of you? Nobody likes it.
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    (Original post by ZazDogg)
    Help! Just a quick question on the topic of this thread! Am I more likely to suffer Racism at Durham University, or UCL? Say I'm an average Indian Muslim, and My Name Is Khan.

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    No, racism is pretty rare at prestigious universities like Durham and UCL. I had an offer from Durham, and I visited all the open days and spoke to potential fellow classmates, and everyone was really friendly. Also, there are lots of Asians at UCL, so you shouldn't have a problem
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    Sounds like you just have some personal issues and relate things that aren't at all related to race to it because you somehow feel inferior.. how is ''fake'' anything to do with your race? And why would they even say that? Sounds like you're being paranoid. Maybe they looked at you funny because of your lack of make up and the word was just part of a conversation they were having.

    You generalising southern brits as stuck-up and obnoxious seems a lot more offensive than someone saying asians are clumsy..
    You've clearly had bad experiences of them and are basing your opinion on that. Perhaps these white people you meet also had bad experiences with people of your race? Somehow it's okay for you to call them obnoxious and stuck-up but because you're Asian, anything they say has to do with your race? They might just have other reasons to dislike you. People hate on others for really stupid reasons. I used to have a friend who would just ***** about everyone over anything.. and no, it wasn't for racist reasons. It was things like their hair, clothes they wore, words they used. Really dumb stuff...

    I experience a lot of nasty comments about my nationality but since it isn't about RACE it's somehow okay. It's really messed up to be honest, people are way too sensitive about racism and ignore other types of discrimination.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I go to a Russell Group university where there are quite a lot of upper/middle-class white people from the South. Obviously, I don't have a problem with this. I'm half Asian, however, and because of this I don't look like I'm from any particular minority often born in the UK (e.g. I don't look clearly BBC or like a Pakistani girl born in the UK). People have often asked if I'm everything from Brazilian to Spanish upon meeting me. However, I've lived in England all my life, dress perfectly normally and consider myself British. I am sick and tired of the casual racism I face on a day-to-day basis at uni.

    I've been at uni for three years (I'm doing a long course) and the amount of casual racism I face here (compared to in my home city where ethnic minorities are very common) is absolutely disgusting. I have a lot of international friends as well and they often encounter it too, and though they don't seem to pick up on it it's definitely there. I hate to say it, but it's often usually the stereotypical middle-class white British people who act like that as well.

    As the course I'm doing is quite small I don't have many coursemates and I sometimes sit in the computer room on my own between lectures. At least five times in the last semester (when I've been really busy and in there quite a lot) people have passed me and been like "That Asian girl is so weird" or "That girl looks so tired." "Which one?" "Oh... the Asian one." It's absolutely ridiculous. Obviously I appreciate that it's not just white people who are racist but in my case it's always been them. Once I just sat down and started working in the same row as one of the girls whom I'd heard making a comment like that, and she started huffing for ages and glaring in my direction. I did so back but it was just stupid. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the way I was acting, it was clearly just because I was "Asian". I often walk through the library past groups of white blonde girls and get dirty looks.

    I'm not considered "weird" in any other sense (I have plenty of friends, I dress and act normally like I said, I speak like a normal British person and so on). I feel like people continually ostracise me and put me down just for the fact that I look different.

    We have something called a "Spotted" Facebook page where you can send in stuff about people you see around uni and this gets posted anonymously. Usually this is just people trying to hit on each other, but a lot of the time people will send in ridiculous things like "To the Chinese person sitting in the cafe... oh wait, that's all of them" or "To the people (no need to mention of what nationality) who always sound like a flock of birds in the SU cafe" and then people will make casually racist comments.

    Why the hell are some white British people (usually southern and affluent ones, though I'm not trying to generalise here) so obnoxious, stuck-up and casually racist? Why do they see Asian people as inferior? How do I deal with people like that when I see them?

    OK I really don't see any racism happening here.

    Recognising that we are all individuals in many many ways is not racism or anything of the such and individuality is, infact, something that should be celebrated because we're all individuals.
    Has the PC nonsense extended so far as someone is racist unless they pretent they are a clone of the next person.

    You're not being treated less favourably or being discriminated against, so don't worry
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    (Original post by Zenomorph)
    Such as ?
    Such as? You want me to name every institution or every industry?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I said right at the start I didn't have a problem with white people. Asking why, in your experience, some people of a particular race act in a bad way doesn't mean you have a problem with everyone of that race. I don't think white people are more racist, but I was wondering if certain classes of British people had a tendency to believe stereotypes about those of another race more than others, or if it's just that the types of people whom I've heard these remarks from are snobby towards everyone. It may not be entirely someone else's fault either. One of my best friends at uni went to a small girls' boarding school and had never had an Asian friend prior to coming here.

    Like I said in my follow-up posts, I do sometimes get remarks made about me specifically because of my race (as the person saying that has made very clear), as have friends.

    There is also a general attitude of casual racism among some people here. If you take a couple of examples from Facebook -

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...size=625%2C477
    I go Nottingham as well, there are a lot of idiots at uni, but I'm sure that would be the case at most unis. Most of the racism you describe isn't really racism though, I'm not even sure I'm Asian and I few people ask me if I am, (my mum was adopted, she looks like she has Asian blood but can't say for sure) but it doesn't bother me, it's just a question, it sounds more like because you've lived in England your whole life it annoys you that you are associated with a continent you have never lived in. So what? It's just a description of you, if a white guy lived in Asia his whole life he'd be referred to as the white guy, it's not an insult on him, it's just a description. Yes there are idiots that are racist (especially at Nottingham, there's a lot of people who seem to live in their own bubble for some reason, I read the bar staff prefer serving Trent to us because they are more polite and don't cause much trouble, so much for smart kids being the well behaved ones,) but most people aren't being racist, they are just describing you. I think the 'dirty looks' are in your head btw, when you think you don't belong somewhere you start thinking everyone is looking at you, when the reality is most of them probably haven't even noticed you.
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    (Original post by tu_es_jolie_x)
    Whilst I agree with most people that them calling you Asian isn't racist, this reminds me of an observation I have made.

    Say a girl is harassed on the bus by some man and he is black or Asian or some minority she might come home and make a Facebook status like "OMG some weird black/Asian/whatever man was harassing me on the bus today". Yet if the person was white it will just be some man ...

    Not saying this is racist but its definitely true and really interesting I think.
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    It depends, because I've heard conversations where people use ethnicity to imply something, like it connotes something else.
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    just tell them to put a sock in it and **** off .
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    (Original post by S4LM4N)
    I 10000% agree with this. Loads of ignorant and intolerant minded people on here it's scary. I recall a post made by a troll a few months ago which said Mosques should be knocked down with all the people inside, and it received a significant number of positive reps.

    It's like Stormfront sometimes on here. Doubt it all you want.
    Really? Coming from someone whose signature has a picture of a black person chasing a bucket of fried chicken?
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    (Original post by jacketpotato)
    Really? Coming from someone whose signature has a picture of a black person chasing a bucket of fried chicken?
    Just facts bro
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    (Original post by tu_es_jolie_x)
    Whilst I agree with most people that them calling you Asian isn't racist, this reminds me of an observation I have made.

    Say a girl is harassed on the bus by some man and he is black or Asian or some minority she might come home and make a Facebook status like "OMG some weird black/Asian/whatever man was harassing me on the bus today". Yet if the person was white it will just be some man ...

    Not saying this is racist but its definitely true and really interesting I think.
    Only if said victim was white though, if her ethnicity was black or asian or whatever then it be more likely to be some wierd white guy
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    Seems to me that most people are missing the point entirely. It is not that they are identifying her by the fact that she is Asian. That would not be racist and it would be, as most of you are saying, just an identifying attribute. That is not what she is saying though, what she is saying that these people are attributing weird behaviour, or other stereotypes, to her, because she is Asian. It is not a matter of, oh this Asian girl is tired at the computers, instead, its oh this girl is sleeping at the computers, typical Asian, they're always studying 24/7, even though she isn't actually doing this. That is racism. That's a rather trivial example, but the basic point is that these comments and ill gestures are not a matter of using Asian as an identifying feature, rather, the fact that she's Asian is being used to attribute behaviours to her which are negative and stereotypical, and which aren't necessarily properly reflective of her as individual. People are assuming she's weird, and calling her weird, because she's Asian, not saying this girl is weird, and then using Asian to identify which weird girl.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I go to a Russell Group university where there are quite a lot of upper/middle-class white people from the South. Obviously, I don't have a problem with this. I'm half Asian, however, and because of this I don't look like I'm from any particular minority often born in the UK (e.g. I don't look clearly BBC or like a Pakistani girl born in the UK). People have often asked if I'm everything from Brazilian to Spanish upon meeting me. However, I've lived in England all my life, dress perfectly normally and consider myself British. I am sick and tired of the casual racism I face on a day-to-day basis at uni.

    I've been at uni for three years (I'm doing a long course) and the amount of casual racism I face here (compared to in my home city where ethnic minorities are very common) is absolutely disgusting. I have a lot of international friends as well and they often encounter it too, and though they don't seem to pick up on it it's definitely there. I hate to say it, but it's often usually the stereotypical middle-class white British people who act like that as well.

    As the course I'm doing is quite small I don't have many coursemates and I sometimes sit in the computer room on my own between lectures. At least five times in the last semester (when I've been really busy and in there quite a lot) people have passed me and been like "That Asian girl is so weird" or "That girl looks so tired." "Which one?" "Oh... the Asian one." It's absolutely ridiculous. Obviously I appreciate that it's not just white people who are racist but in my case it's always been them. Once I just sat down and started working in the same row as one of the girls whom I'd heard making a comment like that, and she started huffing for ages and glaring in my direction. I did so back but it was just stupid. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the way I was acting, it was clearly just because I was "Asian". I often walk through the library past groups of white blonde girls and get dirty looks.

    I'm not considered "weird" in any other sense (I have plenty of friends, I dress and act normally like I said, I speak like a normal British person and so on). I feel like people continually ostracise me and put me down just for the fact that I look different.

    We have something called a "Spotted" Facebook page where you can send in stuff about people you see around uni and this gets posted anonymously. Usually this is just people trying to hit on each other, but a lot of the time people will send in ridiculous things like "To the Chinese person sitting in the cafe... oh wait, that's all of them" or "To the people (no need to mention of what nationality) who always sound like a flock of birds in the SU cafe" and then people will make casually racist comments.

    Why the hell are some white British people (usually southern and affluent ones, though I'm not trying to generalise here) so obnoxious, stuck-up and casually racist? Why do they see Asian people as inferior? How do I deal with people like that when I see them?
    I think you have a social anxiety issue, can I suggest you consult a physician.

    Seriously...... I can't say Ive experienced anything like that, I am Chinese/Indian/Mauritian, after being at KCL now going to UCL. I don't think I can say anything of the sort. I think you are the issue not the others.
 
 
 
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