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(Original post by Calllu-m)
The IB don't compile a list of results by country, at least one that they don't release, but if you look at the results from most British schools you'll notice the %s of 7s for the supposedly hardest subjects to get 7s in are higher than the world average.

could that be because you're looking at private schools that are trying to advertise?
i think if a school releases it's IB stats, they are most certainly higher than average. they wouldnt be released otherwise.

just some critical thinking, i dont know with certainty. but neither could you..

as for my school, results are pretty with average. if my predicted grades hold true, i would only be the second person to achieve a 7 english - after IB has been offered for 4 years. that certainly constitutes 2%. i know this because i asked for the stats - they dont provide them on a website because it wouldnt be great PR seeing as tuition here is an arm and a leg.
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could that be because you're looking at private schools that are trying to advertise?
i think if a school releases it's IB stats, they are most certainly higher than average. they wouldnt be released otherwise.

just some critical thinking, i dont know with certainty. but neither could you..

as for my school, results are pretty with average. if my predicted grades hold true, i would only be the second person to achieve a 7 english - after IB has been offered for 4 years. that certainly constitutes 2%. i know this because i asked for the stats - they dont provide them on a website because it wouldnt be great PR seeing as tuition here is an arm and a leg.
Yes maybe it is true for private schools too. Although some fantastic state schools offer IB and get amazing results (Dartford Grammar and Dane Court). Yes it constitutes as 2% if you've had 100 people do the IB in 4 years
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(Original post by Calllu-m)
Yes maybe it is true for private schools too. Although some fantastic state schools offer IB and get amazing results (Dartford Grammar and Dane Court). Yes it constitutes as 2% if you've had 100 people do the IB in 4 years
yes, i was indeed implying that 100 people took IB in the 4 years. astutely spotted!
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yes, i was indeed implying that 100 people took IB in the 4 years. astutely spotted!
Thats a big cohort then, unusually so. We have about 20 people a year do it. Sarcasm isn't appreciated btw.
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(Original post by Calllu-m)
Sarcasm isn't appreciated btw.
I'm so sorry... it's just.... you've just been hurting my feelings so much with your imperious arguments.:bawling:

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That's utter crap
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(Original post by Calllu-m)
Thats a big cohort then, unusually so. We have about 20 people a year do it. Sarcasm isn't appreciated btw.
This is a little off-topic but is it usual that the amount of ib students in a school is this little? I mean we have 30 students doing ib annually, and I thought it's because ib is not well known around here since the language is different and stuff. In my opinion even 30 people is wayyy too little for the school to be able to offer a good variety of subjects, so i really don't know how you can manage with only 20.
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This is a little off-topic but is it usual that the amount of ib students in a school is this little? I mean we have 30 students doing ib annually, and I thought it's because ib is not well known around here since the language is different and stuff. In my opinion even 30 people is wayyy too little for the school to be able to offer a good variety of subjects, so i really don't know how you can manage with only 20.
I think it really depends. At my school (intl school in Hong Kong) it's compulsory to do IB, so we have like 230 people, whereas in the local schools that offer IB, only the top end of the cohort are allowed, so the size is much smaller, probably like 20-40 people.

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This is a little off-topic but is it usual that the amount of ib students in a school is this little? I mean we have 30 students doing ib annually, and I thought it's because ib is not well known around here since the language is different and stuff. In my opinion even 30 people is wayyy too little for the school to be able to offer a good variety of subjects, so i really don't know how you can manage with only 20.
My year only had 120 and we offered A levels too. We offered 6 languages and 4 were taken in my year (Latin and Ancient Greek were the two that weren't) 3 Group 3s (Econ, History, Geography) taken at both levels, 3 Group 4s (Bio chem and phys) all were taken at both levels. It obviously depended. One year I think we had a cohort of 55. Other years it goes down to 20.
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I'm so sorry... it's just.... you've just been hurting my feelings so much with your imperious arguments.:bawling:
You're hugely arrogant for someone who doesn't have the qualifications to back it up. You may have a better insight when you've actually finished the IB.
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You're hugely arrogant for someone who doesn't have the qualifications to back it up. You may have a better insight when you've actually finished the IB.

for the most part of the conversation i used words such as "could" "might" "i dont know with certainty". when i talked about my grades i stated that they were predicted, and said that "if my predicted hold true". in no way did i assume arrogance.
apart from that, i dont see how "qualifications" would determine validity of my claims. how do 4 more months of IB work give you superior opinion on university recognition and IB statistics?
in contrast, your replies were all self assured. you mostly replied "No." and then resumed to tell me how I was wrong. The fact that you started off our conversation with the words "that's utter crap" has much to say about arrogance, setting the tone of this 'argument'.
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My year only had 120 and we offered A levels too. We offered 6 languages and 4 were taken in my year (Latin and Ancient Greek were the two that weren't) 3 Group 3s (Econ, History, Geography) taken at both levels, 3 Group 4s (Bio chem and phys) all were taken at both levels. It obviously depended. One year I think we had a cohort of 55. Other years it goes down to 20.
Our school offers 3 humanities and 3 sciences out of which 2 subjects, philosophy and physics, are only taken at sl. Physics hl is something I definetely would have wanted to take, and even many unis require it, so I was ready to kill someone for it. Plus, the amount of people choosing history hl was too little in the beginning, so they partly forced people to change their choices so that there would be enough people taking it (don't ask me why... having 6 people in history hl and 14 people in chemistry hl shouldn't be any worse than having 10 in both, at least in my opinion). If there had been no one willing to change their choices, then the only humanity available at hl would have been psychology.

And then the languages: our school offers two A languages, and the exact same languages as Group 2 B languages, which means that the only choice to make is whether you would like to have 2 As or 1 A and 1 B language, but the languages are the same anyway.

Oh right, and then there is this interesting restriction that you can't have both psychology and philosophy. Choice seems like an illusion.
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I'm currently doing the IB. And I regret picking it over A-Levels so much.


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Hi,
I've applied to the IB but ever since have been having second thoughts- do I really want to do maths, English and biology?
It's difficult to be definite, causing a mixture of anxiety and stress to manifest itself.

What I really want to know is: is it worth it?
I'm just caught in a conflict of: 'oh but I might regret it' and 'but I want to have fun and enjoy myself!' It's maddening. Send help.
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If you are applying to the UK, I suggest that you do not take the IB. It is severely underrated by universities (especially when it comes to HL Maths), and is significantly more difficult than A Levels in most cases. The only exception to this would be applications to Oxbridge, where the IB will likely do a better job of preparing you for interviews and getting you a conditional offer.

I did the IB (39 Overall) with Maths(5), Physics(7) and Chemistry(6) at Higher Level, but was not able to get into either Imperial, UCL or Manchester for Chemical Engineering. I received a rejection from the latter two even though I had the required IB (Diploma, not predicted) grades stated on their website and confirmed by email. Had I done A Level, I would have required AAB (Mathematics and Physics + any other subject) to be accepted instead of the somewhat uncertain 36-39 with "17-19 points in three higher level subjects to include Mathematics, plus Chemistry and/or Physics, with no score lower than 5".

In hindsight, I would have certainly taken A Level or AP, and that is what I would suggest for anyone considering applying to UK universities to do.
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