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    (Original post by SophiaLDN)
    Absolutely not! You're mistaking white people & white privilege. White privilege is not about the person or individual, more about the structure of the society I didn't say white people, I said "white privilege". If you read up on that, it doesn't talk about white people per say nor is it limited to white people or being racist. Its about the acknowledgement of society and how white/or fairer skin is more privileged in all of societies and different countries and by not even admitting or acknowledging it, you are part of the problem hence, it goes hand in hand. There are better examples/explanations online to read through, such as http://www.tolerance.org/article/rac...hite-privilege
    I have read through the article and it is a load of *******s. There is no such thing as "white privilege", just as there is no such thing as "male privilege". Just because I'm white does not stop me from being stopped my the police on a regular basis. Just because I'm white does not mean I have a higher likely hood of getting a job. This whole white vs everyone else is a ridiculous idea made to segregate rather than bring people together. It is people thinking that white people are better than their own race which in itself is actually racist ("having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another").
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    I have read through the article and it is a load of *******s. There is no such thing as "white privilege", just as there is no such thing as "male privilege". Just because I'm white does not stop me from being stopped my the police on a regular basis. Just because I'm white does not mean I have a higher likely hood of getting a job. This whole white vs everyone else is a ridiculous idea made to segregate rather than bring people together. It is people thinking that white people are better than their own race which in itself is actually racist ("having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another").
    I must admit I didn't read the article when I linked it to you as I was short on time and assumed it was ok due to it being a .org website (stupid of me). But I have read it now and I think its a very extreme and over the top example of what white privilege is and pretty petty. But, this is not denying that there is such a thing! As you are white (assuming), you surely have to be aware of the privilege you have compared to others??? If not, that even shows your privilege by not even being aware of how society favours you. Again, this is very very prevalent in the USA rather than the UK which is why I voted 3 on this poll. But here are some examples with information ive searched and read through this time (lol). And if you dont agree that there is a structural racial bias in society??? , well..

    Reverse Racism?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

    A simple cartoon to explain what white privilege means http://www.buzzfeed.com/aaronc13/thi...e-privilege-is (again, this is American statistics due to it being rife in America rather than anywhere else)

    Black people DO get stopped & searched way more than white people due to stereotypes and racial profiling and your privilege excludes you from this. . "Police forces are up to 28 times more likely to use stop-and-search powers against black people than white people and may be breaking the law, new research from the official human rights body reveals." This is a fact, how can you even disagree with this?? reference: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/j...h-black-people

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1513362.html


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ton-never.html


    By Any Means Necessary? Unemployed Black Woman Pretends To Be White, Job Prospects Dramatically Increase.: http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2012/11/by-any-means-necessary-unemployed-black-women-pretends-to-be-white-job-prospects-dramatically-increase/

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    That's why affirmative action happened. The only way Diasporans can get reasonable fairness for employment is if it is required! "
    http://mic.com/articles/89653/7-actual-facts-that-prove-white-privilege-exists-in-america

    "Your experiments in clothing and hair are viewed as ‘edgy’ instead of ‘ghetto example: white girl with blue/pink hipster hair is called a hipster and same hairstyle with a black girl is called ghetto/ratchet’" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20608039 Even I have been told by recruiters to "straighten my hair" when going for an interview (which is naturally curly) and to not include your ethnicity when applying for jobs so you can atleast get an interview. Happens to many people.


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    (Original post by SophiaLDN)
    I must admit I didn't read the article when I linked it to you as I was short on time and assumed it was ok due to it being a .org website (stupid of me). But I have read it now and I think its a very extreme and over the top example of what white privilege is and pretty petty. But, this is not denying that there is such a thing! As you are white (assuming), you surely have to be aware of the privilege you have compared to others??? If not, that even shows your privilege by not even being aware of how society favours you. Again, this is very very prevalent in the USA rather than the UK which is why I voted 3 on this poll. But here are some examples with information ive searched and read through this time (lol). And if you dont agree that there is a structural racial bias in society??? , well..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

    A simple cartoon to explain what white privilege means http://www.buzzfeed.com/aaronc13/thi...e-privilege-is (again, this is American statistics due to it being rife in America rather than anywhere else)

    Black people DO get stopped & searched way more than white people due to stereotypes and racial profiling and your privilege excludes you from this. . "Police forces are up to 28 times more likely to use stop-and-search powers against black people than white people and may be breaking the law, new research from the official human rights body reveals." This is a fact, how can you even disagree with this?? reference: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/j...h-black-people

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1513362.html


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ton-never.html


    By Any Means Necessary? Unemployed Black Woman Pretends To Be White, Job Prospects Dramatically Increase.: http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2012/11/by-any-means-necessary-unemployed-black-women-pretends-to-be-white-job-prospects-dramatically-increase/

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    That's why affirmative action happened. The only way Diasporans can get reasonable fairness for employment is if it is required! "
    http://mic.com/articles/89653/7-actual-facts-that-prove-white-privilege-exists-in-america

    "Your experiments in clothing and hair are viewed as ‘edgy’ instead of ‘ghetto example: white girl with blue/pink hipster hair is called a hipster and same hairstyle with a black girl is called ghetto/ratchet’" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20608039 Even I have been told by recruiters to "straighten my hair" when going for an interview (which is naturally curly) and to not include your ethnicity when applying for jobs so you can atleast get an interview. Happens to many people.


    What are your thoughts?
    Why would you post a link without even reading it?

    Even the links you have posted are either horribly biased or aren't even relevant. We are talking about the UK, not the USA. Black people are not 28 times more likely to get stopped that white people, that is a downright lie. Even though more black people are getting stopped there is still a 10% arrest rate, which leads me to believe there was good reason to stop them.

    (source:https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...d-cjs-2012.pdf page 37 paragraph 3).

    Don't try and use an out of date article in the Guardian of all news papers, it falls into the same biased category as the Daily Mail.

    Believing in white privilege enforces racism, the belief that other races are somehow superior it another. If you can show me some relevant UK stats I would be happy to look at those, but I don't really don't care about the US which has deep seated racism throughout its culture.
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    Why would you post a link without even reading it?

    Even the links you have posted are either horribly biased or aren't even relevant. We are talking about the UK, not the USA. Black people are not 28 times more likely to get stopped that white people, that is a downright lie. Even though more black people are getting stopped there is still a 10% arrest rate, which leads me to believe there was good reason to stop them.

    (source:https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...d-cjs-2012.pdf page 37 paragraph 3).

    Don't try and use an out of date article in the Guardian of all news papers, it falls into the same biased category as the Daily Mail.

    Believing in white privilege enforces racism, the belief that other races are somehow superior it another. If you can show me some relevant UK stats I would be happy to look at those, but I don't really don't care about the US which has deep seated racism throughout its culture.


    As I said, White Privilege is prevalent and manifests itself in US society rather than the UK hence what I was referring to. When people refer to White Privilege they talk about the USA. This doesn't exclude racism in the UK. You didn't even look through the links, there are statistics there yet you brush it off as saying it must be for a 'good reason'? So if that article showed you that racial profiling is rife in the UK, you say its out of date? So suddenly racial profile just magically stopped? Some of these statistcs are no more than 5 years old, hardly a 40 year old statistic. Really come on now, you cant compare Guardian to Daily Mail of all papers? Statistics don't lie. Atleast its addressing the issue that people like to sweep under the carpet as its not happening to them and doesn't affect their lives.

    Here are some up-to-date statistics then.

    "It is very clear that in a large number of cases the reasonable grounds for suspicion were not there and one can only therefore assume, given that black people are six times more likely to be stopped and searched than a white person, that it is precisely the fact that they are a black person that has led to that stop and search taking place. 30 April 2014 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27224887 (Is The BBC ok for you now? Or is it like the Daily Mail?)

    Black Drivers Are Most Likely To Be Stopped By Police: http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/...stopped-police

    Across London black people are charged for possession of cannabis at 5 times the rate of white people. For cannabis warnings the rate is 3 times. This jump in disproportionality at the charge stage demonstrates that black people are more likely to receive a harsher police response for possession of cannabis.
    Black people in London who are caught in possession of cocaine are charged, rather than cautioned, at a much higher rate than their white counterparts. In 2009/10 the Metropolitan Police charged 78 per cent of black people caught in possession of cocaine compared with 44 per cent of whites.


    n 2009/10 the overall search rate for drugs across the population as a whole was 10 searches per 1000 people. For those from the white population it was 7 per 1000, increasing to 14 per 1000 for those identifying as mixed race, 18 per 1000 for those identifying as Asian and to 45 per 1000 for those identifying as black. Tweet
    Black people were, in other words, 6.3 times more likely to be stopped and searched for drugs than white people, while Asian people were 2.5 times more likely to be stopped and searched for drugs and those identifying as mixed race were stopped and searched for drugs at twice the rate of white people.
    Large numbers of young people are being subject to police stop and search for drugs. In 2009/10 half the 280,000 drug stop searches carried out by the Metropolitan police were on young people aged 21 years or below. Almost 16,900 were of children aged 15 or below. - http://www.release.org.uk/publications/numbers-black-and-white-ethnic-disparities-policing-and-prosecution-drug-offences


    Basically, no matter how many statistics I give you, at the end of the day, you'll never know what its like to be a POC or what we deal with and neither would vice versa. No one is saying that they believe one race is superior than another, society has already done that. Example, look at how European features are seen as more 'beautiful' in contrast to others? Who has dictated that? Hundreds and hundreds of years of colonisation.
 
 
 
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