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    (Original post by social_construct)
    Yes Germany's Führer was correct on the point that a foreign race should not get a political stronghold over a country. (This is not to state agreement with him). Britain should really take note of this point as the way things are going it's own people will be a powerless minority in the decades to come and people from its ex-colonies will be turning it into their image.


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    Sure sounds like you're agreeing with him (or at least the principal behind this part of his ideology). And it's kind of ****ed up that you called him 'Germany's Führer'...
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    The thing that gets me about Jews is when they are allowed to be part of any government, in the US for example, because they all have a dual nationality with Israel. So, who are they loyal to? Israel, themselves or the country they currently occupy?

    Also, it's been brought up already that Jews consider themselves "Gods chosen people", but were in fact banished by God from their land. I never hear the term 'goyim' in the UK, but seen many examples online: it's a derogatory term for non-chosen.

    I don't know what antisemitism really means, but I do believe the proper ethnic Jews are hardwired differently to Europeans, mainly due to being so far spread and having no natural nation of their own. I don't wish harm on them as a people, but I would exclude them from any high security positions in state affairs.
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    (Original post by HigherMinion)
    The thing that gets me about Jews is when they are allowed to be part of any government, in the US for example, because they all have a dual nationality with Israel. So, who are they loyal to? Israel, themselves or the country they currently occupy?

    Also, it's been brought up already that Jews consider themselves "Gods chosen people", but were in fact banished by God from their land. I never hear the term 'goyim' in the UK, but seen many examples online: it's a derogatory term for non-chosen.

    I don't know what antisemitism really means, but I do believe the proper ethnic Jews are hardwired differently to Europeans, mainly due to being so far spread and having no natural nation of their own. I don't wish harm on them as a people, but I would exclude them from any high security positions in state affairs.
    Did you lose your time machine, because 1870 wants its anti-Semitism back.
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    (Original post by Viceroy)
    Did you lose your time machine, because 1870 wants its anti-Semitism back.
    A-are you Jewish, Link? Don't worry, I won't treat you any differently if you are. Six million of my best friends are Jewish!
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    (Original post by HigherMinion)
    A-are you Jewish, Link? Don't worry, I won't treat you any differently if you are. Six million of my best friends are Jewish!
    What on earth does that mean?
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    (Original post by Viceroy)
    What on earth does that mean?
    Sorry, I was just referring to my 20 million Jewish friends. Take my word for it!
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    (Original post by HigherMinion)
    Sorry, I was just referring to my 20 million Jewish friends. Take my word for it!
    Sounds as if you were making a reference to the Holocaust or something.
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    I'm a Catholic but i have to admit powerful Jewish heritage controls many aspects of the Western Hemisphere. Media, Politics, Pornography etc. words like 'Homophobia' 'Racism' were even coined by a Jewish pornographor & Communist.

    Many cancerous social, political, race issues were created by Zionists intent on imploding the West.

    I'm a Catholic and like 99% of Christians you may expect me to defend Israel, defend Jewish people etc. but sorry Zionism is truly manipulative, evil and extreme. I could speak all day from the origins or femenism to the origins of political correctness. It's all Jewish Zionism.
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    (Original post by social_construct)
    Yes Germany's Führer was correct on the point that a foreign race should not get a political stronghold over a country. (This is not to state agreement with him). Britain should really take note of this point as the way things are going it's own people will be a powerless minority in the decades to come and people from its ex-colonies will be turning it into their image.




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    Jewish George Soros quoted his life work was to destroy America. You can see how much money this powerful Zionist has spent trying to keep Mexicans running over the border.
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    (Original post by Datch)
    In my opinion it's because in recent modern times, Jews attracted envy for being successful in business, science, medicine etc.., the disproportionate number of Jews in these fields attracted resentment.

    In more recent times, the Jewish state of Israel has attracted criticism because of the way the Muslim minority is treated. many of those who criticise Israel though would say that it is Israel they disapprove of, not Jews. Some of them are probably sincere in this view, though anti Semitism has such a long history, one suspects that the Muslims are not the main reason at least some of those people criticise Israel.

    The Jewish people for ever have been the Brunt of Bigoted Racists who only want to be left alone in Peace
    There are 4 main types of anti-Semitism:

    1) Religious - read what Talmud says about the goyim (non-Jews) and the double standards of behaviour allowed. Present since always, reached its height because of Papal states anti-Jewish propaganda.

    2) Racist - started with the modernity and nationalism in 19th century Europe; also hostile towards other Semitic peoples

    3) Socio-economic - in the feudal times Jews were forced into trade because the nobility of Europe was busy fighting and was "too noble" for being merchants, whereas the peasants were forced to cultivate land. When capitalism emerged, Jews had an obvious advantage as they emerged from medieval merchants, and therefore were easily able to reproduce their socio-economic success in all kinds of fields (especially banking, law and medicine)

    4) Postmodern antisemitism = linked strongly to the demonisation of Jewish diaspora because of the actions of Israeli state.
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    The idea that society is anti-Semitic is a myth. If that is the case then why does the terrorist state of Israel even exist?
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    (Original post by al_94)
    You say the Jewish people as if it is a race. It states clearly in the religion that you have to follow the religion to be a Jew.
    You clearly never read the Torah or the Talmud.

    You may convert, but if you have no Jewish bloodline then Karl Marx will always be a greater Jew than you'll ever be.

    The whole Judaism is constructed around the idea of ethnoreligious, tribal [Jacob's 12 sons] identity. This particular tribe was chosen by God to be above all nations of the world, and the goyim are often equated in the Talmud to the live environment
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    (Original post by David Adler)
    You clearly never read the Torah or the Talmud.

    You may convert, but if you have no Jewish bloodline then Karl Marx will always be a greater Jew than you'll ever be.

    The whole Judaism is constructed around the idea of ethnoreligious, tribal [Jacob's 12 sons] identity. This particular tribe was chosen by God to be above all nations of the world, and the goyim are often equated in the Talmud to the live environment
    You have misunderstood my point. There is no such thing as a "Jewish race" and I'm sick and tired of people spewing this nonsense. These people are no different to the rest of us they come from different parts of the world whether it be Europe, North Africa, East Africa or the Middle East. There is no special "Jewish gene" that makes them somehow unique. The Zionist movement is not a religious movement but a political one. There is no such thing as an "Atheist Jew" but the Zionist movement believes that you can be Jewish and not believe in God. They believe in democracy and secularism and not the 613 commandments of Moses.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    You have misunderstood my point. There is no such thing as a "Jewish race" and I'm sick and tired of people spewing this nonsense. These people are no different to the rest of us they come from different parts of the world whether it be Europe, North Africa, East Africa or the Middle East. There is no special "Jewish gene" that makes them somehow unique. The Zionist movement is not a religious movement but a political one. There is no such thing as an "Atheist Jew" but the Zionist movement believes that you can be Jewish and not believe in God. They believe in democracy and secularism and not the 613 commandments of Moses.
    No you have misunderstood my point, on so many different levels.

    Oh by the way I am Jewish myself. If you believe there is no such thing as a "Jewish race" tell that to Orthodox Rabbis such as Ovadia Yosef. You don't need to tell that to non-Jews, tell that to Jews!

    Finally, you clearly have not heard of Shas, the Jewish Home etc. While you had the secular left-wing zionists like Poale Zion, you always also had orthodox religious Beitar in Poland and so on.

    As I've said before, you can be a Jew even if you don't now about it. Read Mishna commentaries to the Torah. Karl Marx would always be a greater Jew than you, even if you converted and observed all the commandments.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    There is no such thing as a "Jewish race" and I'm sick and tired of people spewing this nonsense. These people are no different to the rest of us they come from different parts of the world whether it be Europe, North Africa, East Africa or the Middle East. There is no special "Jewish gene" that makes them somehow unique.
    It's funny because you can do genetic testing and Ashkenazic autosomal DNA is so unique that you can easily deduct whether a person is of Jewish ancestry in the last few generations.

    In addition, there are haplogroups of Y-DNA and mtDNA which are almost exclusively associated with the Jewish diaspora.

    Read my thread about ancestral genetic testing. Yael herself posted in this thread and she was 92.1% Ashkenazi.
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    (Original post by al_94)
    The idea that society is anti-Semitic is a myth.
    If you really don't think that there's anti-Semitism in today's world, here are a few examples of recent news stories on this issue:

    Anti-Semitic Attack Reported Near Paris - NY Times (3 Dec 2014)

    Anti-Semitism in France Today - Huffington Post (18 Nov 2014)

    Conference in Berlin Focuses on Rising Anti-Semitism - Huffington Post (18 Nov 2014)

    Warning on Anti-Semitism in Europe - NY Times (13 Nov 2014)

    Ignoring Anti-Semitism Won't Make it Go Away - Washington Post (13 Nov 2014)

    Europe's Anti-Semitism Comes Out of the Shadow - NY Times (23 Sept 2014)

    What's Behind Germany's New Anti-Semitism - NY Times (16 Sept 2014)

    The Rising Tide of Anti-Semitism - NY Times (25 Aug 2014)

    Why Jews are Worried: Deborah E. Lipstadt on the Rising Anti-Semitism in Europe - NY Times (20 Aug 2014)
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    (Original post by David Adler)
    No you have misunderstood my point, on so many different levels.

    Oh by the way I am Jewish myself. If you believe there is no such thing as a "Jewish race" tell that to Orthodox Rabbis such as Ovadia Yosef. You don't need to tell that to non-Jews, tell that to Jews!

    Finally, you clearly have not heard of Shas, the Jewish Home etc. While you had the secular left-wing zionists like Poale Zion, you always also had orthodox religious Beitar in Poland and so on.

    As I've said before, you can be a Jew even if you don't now about it. Read Mishna commentaries to the Torah. Karl Marx would always be a greater Jew than you, even if you converted and observed all the commandments.
    I don't need to tell the Jews they are not a race if they have their own people telling them that whether they want to believe it or not is their choice. Of course there are some religious Jews but Israel identifies them self as a democracy a large amount of people there are secular.
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    (Original post by Viceroy)
    If you really don't think that there's anti-Semitism in today's world, here are a few examples of recent news stories on this issue:

    Anti-Semitic Attack Reported Near Paris - NY Times (3 Dec 2014)

    Anti-Semitism in France Today - Huffington Post (18 Nov 2014)

    Conference in Berlin Focuses on Rising Anti-Semitism - Huffington Post (18 Nov 2014)

    Warning on Anti-Semitism in Europe - NY Times (13 Nov 2014)

    Ignoring Anti-Semitism Won't Make it Go Away - Washington Post (13 Nov 2014)

    Europe's Anti-Semitism Comes Out of the Shadow - NY Times (23 Sept 2014)

    What's Behind Germany's New Anti-Semitism - NY Times (16 Sept 2014)

    The Rising Tide of Anti-Semitism - NY Times (25 Aug 2014)

    Why Jews are Worried: Deborah E. Lipstadt on the Rising Anti-Semitism in Europe - NY Times (20 Aug 2014)
    There are some White supremacist/Nazis/Nationalists who hate them but they don't represent society as a whole.
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    (Original post by Viceroy)
    If you really don't think that there's anti-Semitism in today's world, here are a few examples of recent news stories on this issue:


    Anti-Semitism in France Today - Huffington Post (18 Nov 2014)
    What do these prove?

    "The results give cause for grave concern. One-quarter of French people think that Jews have too much power in the economy and in finance; 22 percent say that Jews have too much power in the media; 35 percent are of the opinion that Jews use their status as victims of the Holocaust in their own interest; and 16 percent think there is a global Zionist conspiracy. Even worse, 14 percent of French people consider the attacks against the Jewish community that took place during the summer --including the targeting of synagogues and Jewish-owned shops, and the shouting of vile anti-Semitic slogans during anti-Israel demonstrations -- understandable."

    Grave concern- says who? The assumption with racism, anti-semitism, sexism, etc. is that treating people differently based on unchangeable traits is wrong. What if it's not? What if we're actually a tribal people who work to better our own people, and compete against the others?

    The French people are a proud one. They don't want their country being taken over by Jews who are not French by the Frenches' standards. They have their culture to uphold, and it's up to them. To build a stigma against preventing this surrender and powergrab of European cultures is horrifically undemocratic and very dodgy indeed.
 
 
 
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