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    Women and men will never be equal because they aren't. I thought you leftists love diversity? then understand men and women were not made the same.Women have a responsibility to have kids but society pressures them to be wage slaves. Men have a responsibility to look after their family and provide for them but this has been stripped from a lot of men.
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    Honest hard cold truth:

    Society will never change to allow women to be equal to men. It just won't. The damage is done. Maybe you can fix it in the west but in Asia or Africa?..lol never.




    (Original post by fairnotfair)
    I need feminism because I need something to laugh at
    Lol mate it is entertaining.
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    (Original post by shiggydiggy)
    It seems like feminisim is more interested in crying on social media about 'being judged for what they wear' instead of real female issues (see developing countries where 1 in 3 men admit to raping, and where women are stoned to death for seeking education). Until this changes, I'll never take first world feminism seriously. If women in the UK think they have hard lives, they are truely blind and entitled.
    I agree with what you're saying. However saying someone has it much worse than you and you shouldn't be sad about something is basically saying if you're happy, you can't be because someone has it much better than you. But then again, I think feminism should be more targeted about what you spoke about. Like you said about gang rapes and stoning, it's awful and in some countries police forces won't do anything about it. And also in other countries, girls can't drive because it's illegal and they run the risk of being shot. It's awful and I think laws should be changed and people should be protected and the way police forces act in some countries


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    (Original post by Cyphrex)
    Hahhahahahaahahahaha
    Good one Kid.
    All violence is wrong.


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    (Original post by CactiQueen)
    All violence is wrong.


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    funny thing is people will "assume" that whenever a woman hits a guy, there was a genuine reason behind it and it's 100% justified. they just assume it.
    same way they assume there is "no reason ever to hit a woman" lol. sounds like sexism to me. we have to look at the facts. sometimes there is a reason to hit a woman. you just don't do it.
    bill burr anyone?
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    Equal pay at Wimbledon. Play fewer sets and no-one gives a **** about women's tennis anyway. Feminism gone mad.
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    (Original post by Birkenhead)
    It will continue to serve a purpose so long as there are women who enjoy playing the victim in society.
    Pretty sure women do not "enjoy playing the victim"

    -Developing world has witnessed some appalling genocide's, mutilation and oppression of women and young girls. In the Congo, it's only sexual health surgery set up originally to help the increasing of rape victims, reports that it's age range is from 0-15, their main victims are infants and young girls. Some have injuries so horrific that they have severe internal damage that needs months in hospital.

    -One incident of domestic violence is reported to the police every minute.

    -One misleading statistic, which is often repeated, is that - while one in four women experience domestic violence - so do one in six men. These figures are, however, based on single incidents, of a criminal nature, and without regard to:

    • severity of violence
    • whether or not it was repeated - and if so, how often
    • the complex pattern of overlapping abuse of various kinds
    • the context in which it took place.

    -Rape in India is the fourth most common crime against women in India According to the National Crime Records Bureau 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012.Out of these, 24,470 were committed by relative or neighbor; in other words, the victim knew the alleged rapist in 98 per cent of the cases.

    -In India Marital rape is not a criminal offense in India unless the victim is separated from the perpetrator.

    Basically, nobody "Enjoys playing the victim" these things are happening, they are real things happening.
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    (Original post by Awesome-o)
    Equal pay at Wimbledon. Play fewer sets and no-one gives a **** about women's tennis anyway. Feminism gone mad.
    Equal pay here, not in other countries.
    That is why it is important to support human rights organisations such as amnesty international.
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    (Original post by fairnotfair)
    funny thing is people will "assume" that whenever a woman hits a guy, there was a genuine reason behind it and it's 100% justified. they just assume it.
    same way they assume there is "no reason ever to hit a woman" lol. sounds like sexism to me. we have to look at the facts. sometimes there is a reason to hit a woman. you just don't do it.
    bill burr anyone?
    The woman shouldn't hit the guy, the guy shouldn't hit the woman. I view it being wrong to hit anyone. There is no reason to hit anyone. You just don't hit anyone!
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    Yes, feminism is still required. Perhaps not to the extent it was many years ago, but there is still a pretty crappy attitude towards women nowadays.
    Not all feminists are violent, men-hating extremists who think just because someone has a penis they are a monster. There are plenty of nice guys who treat women well, just like there are many women who treat other women badly. Women slut-shame and victim-shame just as much, if not more, than men.
    But still, here are some statistics to convince you

    In TV shows/Film:


    • Only 30.6% of speaking characters are women
    • 28.8% of women wear sexually revealing clothes, as opposed to 7.0% of men
    • 26.2% of women get partially naked as opposed to 9.4% of men
    • Only 10.7% of films contain a balanced cast with half the cast being women
    • Average ratio of male actors to female actors: 2.25:1
    • Roughly 1/3 of female cast members of a movie are at one point or another put into sexually-revealing attire
    • There is a 5 to 1 ratio of males working on movies to females


    Industry inequality:


    • The full time gender pay gap is 10%, and the average part-time pay gap is 34.5%.


    • It is estimated that for each year a mother is absent from the workplace her future wages will reduce by 5%.


    • Approximately 70% of people in national minimum wage jobs are women.


    • 54% of women working part-time have been found to be ‘employed below their potential’, which amounts to 2.8 million women
    • Women make up only 17% board directors of FTSE 100 companies.


    • A study by the Fawcett Society found that 51% of women and men from middle management to director level identify stereotyping as the major hurdle facing women at work


    • Up to 30,000 women are sacked each year simply for being pregnant and each year an estimated 440,000 women lose out on pay or promotion as a result of pregnancy.


    • 14% of White British women have been asked about their plans for marriage and/or children at a job interview compared to 20-25% of Black Caribbean, Bangladeshi and Pakistani women.


    • 26% of trade union branches have received enquiries from members who have been exposed to the sex industry – including pornography – at work.
    • It is estimated that the UK would gain up to £23 billion (the equivalent to 2% of GDP) by better harnessing women’s skills in employment.


    Politics:


    • Only 1 in 4 MPs is a woman and women from minority ethnic groups make up only 1.2% of MPs yet comprise 4% of the UK population.


    • Women are outnumbered 5 to1 by men in the cabinet only 16% of senior ministerial posts are held by women.


    • The UK is ranked joint 58th in the world with regards to the number of women in national parliaments.


    • Just 34.7% of senior civil servants are women.


    • Locally, just 35% of elected councillors are women and only 13% of local authority council leaders are women.


    • At the current rate of progress we would have to wait more than 150 years before seeing an equal number of women and men elected to English local councils.




    General:


    • 1 in 4 women in their lifetime will be sexually assaulted- far more than men (though yes men do get sexually assaulted and I dont think their pain should be made to seem less than womens)
    • 1 in 5 men believe it is appropriate for a women to be slapped or touched sexually if she is wearing revealing or sexual attire



    Sexist scenarios women face at work that men do not:

    • Being mistaken for a secretary/tea lady at board meetings of big companies'
    • At a doctors office, patients requesting help from a "male doctor" instead of a female doctor, purely for sexist reasons
    • Being accused of menstruation when voicing a firm opinion
    • Being asked if a man is available instead
    • Being sexually assaulted at work. This is actually a very big problem, I know several women who have either had to quit due to bosses coming onto them or being fired for refusing to sleep with the boss
    • When a woman voices an opinion, she is ignored or labelled a *****. When a man voices the same opinion, he is praised and called a hard worker


    Yes, I agree the situation for women is better now. But it is nowhere near ideal. It is much harder for women to get to the top of the career ladder or hold high payed and important positions- purely due to sexism. Women have already proved in IQ tests and exams and things like that that they are just as capable as men.

    Take the science industry for example. When a woman claims she wants to go into something like physics or other sciences, she is mocked and told not to, as it is a 'male field'.

    So until this improves, yes we still need feminism.
    And dont use all those crazy tumblr feminists as a representation of feminism as a whole. Many feminists are lovely people and not misandrists and its sad that a few crazy feminists give feminists in general a bad name


    And dont give me bull**** about how 'men are objectified just as much as women'. No they arent. Yes, women do objectify men but nowhere near the extent that men objectify women.
    Just turn on the TV and look at the ads. I guarantee you that a lot of ads unnecessarily use women in near-partial nakedness to sell products.

    Also, recently Marina and the Diamonds released a video for her track 'How to Be a Heartbreaker', where partially naked men danced around. The video received a lot of backlash from men for 'objectifying them'. Well, quite a large majority of male rappers and singers use almost-naked women in their videos and seem to get no backlash


    Also, dont even get me started on sexism in non-Western and poorer countries. Women are literally seen as the property of men in those countries. They definitely need feminism
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    Also thought the comments to this article should be interesting to read for all you claiming women are treated equally to men in the Western world:

    http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...veryday-sexism
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    (Original post by liass)
    Yes, I agree the situation for women is better now. But it is nowhere near ideal. It is much harder for women to get to the top of the career ladder or hold high payed and important positions- purely due to sexism. Women have already proved in IQ tests and exams and things like that that they are just as capable as men.

    Take the science industry for example. When a woman claims she wants to go into something like physics or other sciences, she is mocked and told not to, as it is a 'male field'.

    So until this improves, yes we still need feminism.
    And dont use all those crazy tumblr feminists as a representation of feminism as a whole. Many feminists are lovely people and not misandrists and its sad that a few crazy feminists give feminists in general a bad name


    And dont give me bull**** about how 'men are objectified just as much as women'. No they arent. Yes, women do objectify men but nowhere near the extent that men objectify women.
    Just turn on the TV and look at the ads. I guarantee you that a lot of ads unnecessarily use women in near-partial nakedness to sell products.

    Also, recently Marina and the Diamonds released a video for her track 'How to Be a Heartbreaker', where partially naked men danced around. The video received a lot of backlash from men for 'objectifying them'. Well, quite a large majority of male rappers and singers use almost-naked women in their videos and seem to get no backlash


    Also, dont even get me started on sexism in non-Western and poorer countries. Women are literally seen as the property of men in those countries. They definitely need feminism
    Why does there have to be an equal amount of men and women in politics? Would anyone ever vote for a woman to be prime minister for their country? LOL
    There's a reason there are more men in politics. It's because men are superior. Women are too emotional. They do not make for good politicians, politics is serious business my friend. Women are not good for these high positions of power.
    I cannot accept that you want an equality in government, not for the greater good of the people, but just so you can say feminism is finally achieving its goals.
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    (Original post by fairnotfair)
    Why does there have to be an equal amount of men and women in politics? Would anyone ever vote for a woman to be prime minister for their country? LOL
    There's a reason there are more men in politics. It's because men are superior. Women are too emotional. They do not make for good politicians, politics is serious business my friend. Women are not good for these high positions of power.
    I cannot accept that you want an equality in government, not for the greater good of the people, but just so you can say feminism is finally achieving its goals.
    Yes, because men have run the government so well and UK isnt in debt at all.
    Besides, how do you know that women wouldnt be good in politics? Do you work in politics? Do you even know what youre talking about or are you just plain stupid?
    Basically youre an idiot so dont even comment unless you know what youre talking about LOL. Go **** off or something instead- i assume that is the only thing you are good at
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    (Original post by liass)
    Yes, because men have run the government so well and UK isnt in debt at all.
    Besides, how do you know that women wouldnt be good in politics? Do you work in politics? Do you even know what youre talking about or are you just plain stupid?
    Basically youre an idiot so dont even comment unless you know what youre talking about LOL
    Oh so I need empirical evidence to prove that women are more emotional?
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    (Original post by fairnotfair)
    Oh so I need empirical evidence to prove that women are more emotional?
    Not all women are emotional, just like not all men are dicks (unfortunate that you fall into the '****' category I guess). Most women I know are pretty calm and you can have a good debate with them.
    And please, do provide empirical evidence
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    I think the UK should have female front-line soldiers, but other than that it's pretty good with gender equality.
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    (Original post by fairnotfair)
    Why does there have to be an equal amount of men and women in politics? Would anyone ever vote for a woman to be prime minister for their country? LOL
    There's a reason there are more men in politics. It's because men are superior. Women are too emotional. They do not make for good politicians, politics is serious business my friend. Women are not good for these high positions of power.
    I cannot accept that you want an equality in government, not for the greater good of the people, but just so you can say feminism is finally achieving its goals.

    There are currently there are 14 woman Prime Ministers; in Bangladesh, Denmark, Germany, Jamaica, Latvia, Norway, Peru, Slovenia, and Trinidad & Tobago as well as in the self-governing territories of Greenland, Nouvelle Caledonie, Sint Maartin, Srpska and the Åland Islands and in the self-declared republic of Transdniestra

    Pretty sure those countries havent collapsed and people arent rioting on the streets whilst government buildings burn down. Denmark actually has one of the highest rating for satisfaction of citizens in the world and is considered a pretty excellent place to live.

    Therefore, your argument is invalid
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    (Original post by felamaslen)
    I think the UK should have female front-line soldiers, but other than that it's pretty good with gender equality.
    There isn't meant to a very good reason. It's mission before men and it is harder to leave a woman behind than a man.

    Plus they basically are on the frontline; through jobs such as translator, medic etc...
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    (Original post by liass)
    There are currently there are 14 woman Prime Ministers; in Bangladesh, Denmark, Germany, Jamaica, Latvia, Norway, Peru, Slovenia, and Trinidad & Tobago as well as in the self-governing territories of Greenland, Nouvelle Caledonie, Sint Maartin, Srpska and the Åland Islands and in the self-declared republic of Transdniestra

    Pretty sure those countries havent collapsed and people arent rioting on the streets whilst government buildings burn down. Denmark actually has one of the highest rating for satisfaction of citizens in the world and is considered a pretty excellent place to live.

    Therefore, your argument is invalid
    you only have a case for germany. and even then, she could probably even pass as a male
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    (Original post by fairnotfair)
    you only have a case for germany. and even then, she could probably even pass as a male
    Did the other cases I recounted- including Denmark, just completely fly over your head?!?

    Yeah no she cant. Youre just looking for excuses now because you know youre wrong
 
 
 
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