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    (Original post by Gott der Zweite)
    I would be amazed if any did, doing science, perhaps divinity though
    80% of analytic philosophers are atheist though. Pretty sure statistically western scientists are similar. Philosophers would of course be the ones one should trust here more so than the scientists though. Science tends not to lend itself very well to answering such questions. Although it does, of course, aid in answering them.
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    (Original post by TheWiseSalmon)
    Nope. The God of any and every religion is quite clearly a human construct and there's nothing that has ever convinced me that a God of any kind exists.
    Does the God of Christianity/Islam/any other religion exist? Almost certainly not. All religion is incoherent nonsense which could have been made up by a toddler.
    Could a God like the one of Deism exist? Maybe, but I have no reason to believe in one because I'm not in the habit of believing in anything without good reason to do so.

    So for all intents and purposes, I'm an atheist.
    Pastafarianism is not incoherent nonsense. It's coherent.
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    (Original post by Hayley Williams)
    I was a "catholic" when I was younger but am now an atheist.


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    (Original post by clh_hilary)
    Pastafarianism is not incoherent nonsense. It's coherent.
    thats what makes it a good satire; because its just as logically consistent.
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    (Original post by TorpidPhil)
    80% of analytic philosophers are atheist though. Pretty sure statistically western scientists are similar. Philosophers would of course be the ones one should trust here more so than the scientists though. Science tends not to lend itself very well to answering such questions. Although it does, of course, aid in answering them.
    I think science alone is more capable of leading us to an answer than philosophy.
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    (Original post by IWantToBeThere)
    I think science alone is more capable of leading us to an answer than philosophy.
    You obviously misunderstand the nature of philosophy then because philosophy is science and so much more - no serious western philosopher fails to place great value on modern scientific findings and empirical evidence in general.
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    (Original post by TorpidPhil)
    You obviously misunderstand the nature of philosophy then because philosophy is science and so much more - no serious western philosopher fails to place great value on modern scientific findings and empirical evidence in general.
    Who wouldn't acknowledge scientific findings?
    I think philosophy can become so abstract that its conclusions might not be reliable. I mean, some people can give your an argument for the existence of god based on abstract terms and logic.
    Plus, I think maybe philosophy has more potential for being misguided by common sense.
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    (Original post by dead sheep eater)
    thats what makes it a good satire; because its just as logically consistent.
    1. It's not satire.

    2. It's not 'just as 'logically consistent'. It is legitimately, actually, logically consistent.

    Most religions like christianity are filled up contradictions and stuff, Pastafarian does not. It's as logically consistent as agnosticism is.
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    (Original post by IWantToBeThere)
    I think science alone is more capable of leading us to an answer than philosophy.
    Science is a branch of philosophy, the hands-on experimental end.
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    I don't believe in God because of the lack of evidence available to verify his existence.
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    (Original post by IWantToBeThere)
    Who wouldn't acknowledge scientific findings?
    I think philosophy can become so abstract that its conclusions might not be reliable. I mean, some people can give your an argument for the existence of god based on abstract terms and logic.
    Plus, I think maybe philosophy has more potential for being misguided by common sense.
    When you study philosophy of science you'll realise that science has a problem with making assumptions for no reason just because it goes in accordance with common sense. But this discussion is too esoteric if you haven't studied philosophy of science so it's a bit pointless...
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    There is no God. The people who believe in God are just so gullible, cos the Bible is so inconsistent and sexist. Anyway I thought by now everyone would realize that there is no supreme being and that science is how the universe was created. :adore: worship is so stupid anyway, why waste time asking things to empty air and sort out your own problems by yourself, instead of waiting for someone else to sort them out. :unimpressed:
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    (Original post by TorpidPhil)
    When you study philosophy of science you'll realise that science has a problem with making assumptions for no reason just because it goes in accordance with common sense. But this discussion is too esoteric if you haven't studied philosophy of science so it's a bit pointless...
    Of course science makes assumptions, but it also develops theories that might be contradictory to common-sense that philosophy alone would never think of them. In fact, I think maybe science leads now, and philosophy utilizes its findings.
    Do you agree with the rest of my other post about philosophy being abstract?
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    I'm Agnostic because I believe humans could never truly know whether God/s do or don't exist
    I hope Gods do exist, it would make things much more interesting
    But if you define God as "all-powerful" then its pretty scary how s/he/it condones all the suffering in this world
    Even if there was a "good" God I wouldn't worship it :rolleyes: Equality and all that
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    I think so
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    God isn't an old bearded man, sitting on a cloud. He is in us, he is in every living thing.
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    (Original post by NHM713)
    God isn't an old bearded man, sitting on a cloud. He is in us
    Oo, yuck! Now that's REALLY creepy!

    (But it does explain the catholic priests' behaviour.…)
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    (Original post by IWantToBeThere)
    Of course science makes assumptions, but it also develops theories that might be contradictory to common-sense that philosophy alone would never think of them. In fact, I think maybe science leads now, and philosophy utilizes its findings.
    Do you agree with the rest of my other post about philosophy being abstract?
    This is pointless as as another poster has already said science IS a part of philosophy. What we typically refer to as analytic philosopher comes both before and after science. It tells the scientists how to go about getting results, the scientists goes and gets the results, then the philosophy interprets and applies to meaning of the results. The two go completely hand and in hand and without the other both would be meaningless, this is because there is no "real" distinction. Science is a part of the philosophical method. Philosophical method just being the way to identify truth.

    It's like how scientists do a study to see how there is a correlation with fat intake in a diet and heart disease. Great, the "scientists" told us what the data is, but science doesn't in anyway tell us how to interpret such data, it's meaning in correspondence with reality and so on. That's philosophy, nothing in the "scientific" method lets you do that. If you say it does then meta-physics becomes truly indifferentiable from normal physics.
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    At school, when doing A Level Applied Maths and A Level Pure Mathematics, we worked out biology is Applied Chemistry and chemistry is Applied Physics.

    So I was amused by the relationship between the sciences according to xkcd.




    Well, by my reckoning, the philosophy of each of the sciences exists between each science, and Philosophy itself is to the right of the picture and extends as far to the right as your imagination can take you.

    Edit: and I think Logisticians are between the Mathematicians and the Philosophers.
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    (Original post by Simes)
    Oo, yuck! Now that's REALLY creepy!

    (But it does explain the catholic priests' behaviour.…)
    Your the one with the dirty mind, everything open to interpretation, but, we both know what I meant...and you didn't quote me fully.

    What does God have to do, with what we have learnt, certain Catholic Priests have been up to?
 
 
 
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