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Not that i'd normally defend HM (he's much more socially conservative than myself) but i do think people have been unduly harsh on the last page. Personally i'm a western supremacist (because of cultural values rather than skin coulor) and while i do view the East Asians as our equals i do think our cultural values are far superior to those of the Middle East and Africa (the former is still barely able to govern itself). If HM is a white supremacist then good for him, he's doing no harm unless he wants to start castrating all non-whites.

I am more British supremacist than white, but after our ethnic connections, our race is the most diluted form of kinship. I also agree we're most similar to East-Asians than anyone else.
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I don't support national socialist parties. Pay attention. I want my aristocracy and family pride back.
ok, didn't you say you were a Paleoconservative? so, who in the UK do you support?

(wikipedia)
Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.[1
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Road to Serfdom isn't fiction.
that's surely a matter of opinion, lol

And 1984 has real life parallels with how dictatorships work, north korean dissidents who have escaped have said it is practically non fiction to them.
I prefer Animal Farm and it's excellent portrayal of how Capitalism corrupts.

I haven't read the Liberal party essentials, but I do know that Browne is considered to be the most right wing MP in the party.
so far it's a good read, and it's only £4 on Kindle
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(Original post by HigherMinion)
I am more British supremacist than white, but after our ethnic connections, our race is the most diluted form of kinship. I also agree we're most similar to East-Asians than anyone else.
and you've lived out in East Asia I take it?

East Asian culture is vastly different from that of Europe,there, the family is king - no individualism at all.

why do you want that?
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I would say I'm fairly right wing. Pro monarchy, anti liberalism.
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Yeeeea... I don't think I belong here.
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yeeeea... I don't think i belong here.
socialist scum. Be gone with you and your something for nothing culture and your false democracy.
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socialist scum. Be gone with you and your something for nothing culture and your false democracy.
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Haha in all honesty I wouldn't say that defines me. Truly, I believe in a world without money and where management and equal distribution of resources is the priority. Where technology is used by all to its full potential and isn't used by one group as a means of power and control over another.

Ask yourself, in what system where money is the primary focus is everyone's needs catered for and one group not screwed over for the benefit of another? Do you honestly believe the system now works? Forget left and right and centre middle.. the whole damned system is broken.

Brb getting my kevlar bodysuit on..
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Haha in all honesty I wouldn't say that defines me. Truly, I believe in a world without money and where management and equal distribution of resources is the priority. Where technology is used by all to its full potential and isn't used by one group as a means of power and control over another.

Ask yourself, in what system where money is the primary focus is everyone's needs catered for and one group not screwed over for the benefit of another? Do you honestly believe the system now works? Forget left and right and centre middle.. the whole damned system is broken.

Brb getting my kevlar bodysuit on..
I do not believe the system now works, hence why I said false democracy. We need a monarchy. Capitalism is the only way of life now. If you were building an idealist society from the ground up, maybe you could have a more equal society, but you can't.
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I do not believe the system now works, hence why I said false democracy. We need a monarchy. Capitalism is the only way of life now. If you were building an idealist society from the ground up, maybe you could have a more equal society, but you can't.
In some ways we aren't that far off from a monarchy. Voting is the illusion of choice, sure every few years you get a different suit giving speeches about this and that.. but come on what really changes? Absolutely nothing it goes either slightly to the left or slightly to the right.

What about the people who don't get voted in. Who we don't even know exist. Calling the shots from behind the scenes pulling the invisible puppet strings.

Don't get me wrong I'm not against innovation or individual achievements or people wanting nice stuff. But it just seems like in this day and age the whole principle and foundations of economics are ancient and outdated. Look at someone considered a founding father of "modern" economics (Adam Smith), he was born and lived in the 1700's. He couldn't of imagined the technology we have available today. Nor were the issues of the time relevant today or could he have foreseen the challenges that we now face.

The way we live in society today is following on from traditions centuries old. They're old and outdated and it's irresponsible to carry on in the way we are.

Sorry to go offtopic in your righty thread. I just got a bit carried away.
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In some ways we aren't that far off from a monarchy. Voting is the illusion of choice, sure every few years you get a different suit giving speeches about this and that.. but come on what really changes? Absolutely nothing it goes either slightly to the left or slightly to the right.

What about the people who don't get voted in. Who we don't even know exist. Calling the shots from behind the scenes pulling the invisible puppet strings.

Don't get me wrong I'm not against innovation or individual achievements or people wanting nice stuff. But it just seems like in this day and age the whole principle and foundations of economics are ancient and outdated. Look at someone considered a founding father of "modern" economics (Adam Smith), he was born and lived in the 1700's. He couldn't of imagined the technology we have available today. Nor were the issues of the time relevant today or could he have foreseen the challenges that we now face.

The way we live in society today is following on from traditions centuries old. They're old and outdated and it's irresponsible to carry on in the way we are.

Sorry to go offtopic in your righty thread. I just got a bit carried away.
No, you're right. Economic ideas are outdated and society has become extremely warped. I'm in favour of a United Nations/IMF organised and funded 'base communities' project, where the government is far smaller with no organised religion (but still freedom of practice). It would have to take place in uninhabited territory though and countries wouldn't like it. Oh well, a boy can dream.
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No, you're right. Economic ideas are outdated and society has become extremely warped. I'm in favour of a United Nations/IMF organised and funded 'base communities' project, where the government is far smaller with no organised religion (but still freedom of practice). It would have to take place in uninhabited territory though and countries wouldn't like it. Oh well, a boy can dream.
And what would your hopes be for that?

My dream is something like: https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/
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And what would your hopes be for that?

My dream is something like: https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/
Well, it's a complete revamp. It could be likened to a far more civilized version of the native American dwellings. Small, responsible governments with true leaders. It is a socialist based ideology admittedly but it's a dream ideology which could work but could never get the support from governments. Free healthcare, equality in education etc. Not very progressive but I believe it would be the best thing for the world.
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Well, it's a complete revamp. It could be likened to a far more civilized version of the native American dwellings. Small, responsible governments with true leaders. It is a socialist based ideology admittedly but it's a dream ideology which could work but could never get the support from governments. Free healthcare, equality in education etc. Not very progressive but I believe it would be the best thing for the world.
https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/a...-based-economy

Honestly, despite the fact that we first appear on opposite ends of the political spectrum I really don't think we differ a lot.
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https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/a...-based-economy

Honestly, despite the fact that we first appear on opposite ends of the political spectrum I really don't think we differ a lot.
I am idealistically a 'Marxist', if society could be built up from scratch. It would be possible in that case and that case only. However what our society needs is leaders in any circumstance and we are not getting that from our current government. A monarchical system gives a leader. However I'm not averse to the dangers of this and any leader should answer to a house of representatives, that are truly elected. I think the problem with what I've read of the venus project is that it doesn't emphasize the need for far smaller communities which is something I support very strongly. A historical example could be those travelling west in 19th century America. If a party of <1000 or so can provide for each other self sufficiently without the need for squabbles or corruption through fair methods then that is ideal. However if a group of say 5 million such as may be in an American state or region of the UK, corruption is more likely to be rife and power is more alluring. Or even the native Americans. They had hunters, cooks, doctors, carers and leaders within a micro-community, which is my idea of an ideal economic situation. And yeah I suppose we are quite alike, which is always a plus.
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I think the problem with what I've read of the venus project is that it doesn't emphasize the need for far smaller communities which is something I support very strongly. A historical example could be those travelling west in 19th century America. If a party of <1000 or so can provide for each other self sufficiently without the need for squabbles or corruption through fair methods then that is ideal.
Ye totally, I dare say the final piece of the puzzle is that aside from a truly democratically represented group of overseers (mainly in terms of maintenance, upkeep and development of technology) people would become essentially self governing and in the generations to come that self governance and using the global system of resource management as a way of decision making would be as natural as today's system is for society.
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Post if you are like me

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I am socially Conservative and a supporter of neoliberal economics.

So, yes, I match your description!
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Ye totally, I dare say the final piece of the puzzle is that aside from a truly democratically represented group of overseers (mainly in terms of maintenance, upkeep and development of technology) people would become essentially self governing and in the generations to come that self governance and using the global system of resource management as a way of decision making would be as natural as today's system is for society.
Perhaps even the idea of democracy is just preamble for corruption. It turns it into a competition where the reward is power over others. Leaders are needed, not politicians. May I ask what/whether you're studying, out of interest? I'm doing (at AS level) English Lit, History, Philosophy and Maths with statistics.
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Perhaps even the idea of democracy is just preamble for corruption. It turns it into a competition where the reward is power over others. Leaders are needed, not politicians. May I ask what/whether you're studying, out of interest? I'm doing (at AS level) English Lit, History, Philosophy and Maths with statistics.
As of September I'll be doing Environmental Science. I agree with democracy as it exists today, yes the lure of power seems to be the corrupting factor.
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