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    (Original post by Cherry82)
    Interesting. May I just ask though, in regards to your first statement brother, what about the women who do not have hymens? Also not to sound foul but what about those who bleed from fingering or the women who bleed after having their hymen's stretched from activities such as horse riding? I'm sure this is an issue bigger than just blood and bleeding.
    Exactly, does God punish them? No. No penetration of a Mans Penis=No Sacred Act=No Marriage. The whole 'Blood Covenant' thing is a type & Shadow Col 2:17. When God designed this system it was meant for the Adamic race of long lived humans that lived up until the time of Noah. They did not break or accumulate injury as easily as we did so this was practical for them even if impossible for us. Its the spiritual implication that is the same for us - not the physical. Your bf can masturbate your vagina for you as nothing more than a sexual favour for you with no fear of having 'married' you or doing anything unclean; even with his mouth. Its not spiritually binding, in the eyes of God its a 'nothing'.
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    (Original post by Cherry82)
    'Or maybe you can find someone where the mutual attraction is so strong you want to get married after the third date. Or is there the option to legitimately 'do everything but sex' which will inevitable lead you in to temptation. You can then seek forgiveness and all will be well going forward.My, albeit some what un Christian, advice would be not to deny yourself fulfilling relationships and sexual pleasure. There has got to be greater sins.'
    'You're bonkers mate. This is why I am very suspicious of Christians..'

    I had to edit this comment to this because your comment actually completely supported what I was saying about atheists on here. Full of arrogant sarcasm, intolerance/ inconsiderate to other people's beliefs, believing they can somehow 'enlighten' other Christians. Pfffttt And I am sure Hydeman thumbs up that post of yours. Thank guys and God bless you all
    So, perhaps I may have been a touch intolerant of your extremely long and sanctimonious post. But regarding OP she did ask for advice so I though it reasonable to share my alternative perspective. I note you left out my point that she might be able to find someone like minded.

    As to chastity before marriage, everyone right and prerogative to do what they want with their body. I just worry about religious folk of all types who propose this as a moral issue for others. And meanwhile some pretty questionable and intolerant behaviours are sometimes going on in their lives.
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    (Original post by TylerClementi)
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    If Homos don't believe in God; why do they want to get married?
    Fool; marriage predates religion; don't act as if marriage is exclusively a religious thing.

    Also, homosexuals would want to get married because:
    - marriage generally signifies a stage in one's relationship, in this society.
    - one gets reduced taxes when they're in a marriage
    - one is granted better hospital visitation rights when they're in a marriage

    Now, if you can't understand these points, the fault lies with you, not me. If you can't understand this, that is because of the extent of your own stupidity, so don't lash out and say, in any words, "what the **** are you on about".
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    Fool; marriage predates religion; don't act as if marriage is exclusively a religious thing.

    Also, homosexuals would want to get married because:
    - marriage generally signifies a stage in one's relationship, in this society.
    - one gets reduced taxes when they're in a marriage
    - one is granted better hospital visitation rights when they're in a marriage

    Now, if you can't understand these points, the fault lies with you, not me. If you can't understand this, that is because of the extent of your own stupidity, so don't lash out and say, in any words, "what the **** are you on about".
    Gay fool

    Marriage is a bedrock for family building, do you fart little gay children out of your arse?
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    (Original post by TylerClementi)
    Gay fool

    Marriage is a bedrock for family building, do you fart little gay children out of your arse?
    On a side not, I'm not gay, I'm bisexual (unless you consider all of a non-heterosexual orientation as one homogeneous group.)

    Marriage is no bedrock for family building; so what do you think about all those (albeit a minority, I think) who don't want to ever get married when in a long-term relationship? Those who perhaps think marriage is like a shackle? Those who have been in a relationship for many, many years? Are the people there who are together not supposed to consider each other family?

    Oh, and for the matter of that last derogatory comment, no, no matter how obscene, can one fart little gay children out of their arse, as if the arse created them. Male homosexuality, for example, has been shown to be partially due to (presumably an allele) on two genes, and another factor for homosexuality has been shown to be due to epigenetics during foetal development (in the mother's womb). Epigenetics is the study of gene expression; the extent to which a gene is "on" or "off", changed by its environment, by the way.

    So in summary, there are genetic, and epigenetic factors during foetal development, to homosexuality.
    Homosexuality is also present in other animals, without human interference.
    All of this supports that it (homosexuality) is natural, as it occurs without human interference.

    Also, even if it was caused by socialisation, the picking up of norm by society, how'd that make it wrong? One should determine whether something is wrong by how it negatively affects all the parties involved, be it yourself, or other people.

    Note, I've added all this information because your stance to it is so predictable; you're so predictable, so predictable that I hope you never play chess, or play any other game against another person (of at least sub-par, or sub-average intelligence.).

    #Let'sCullStupidity2015
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    On a side not, I'm not gay, I'm bisexual (unless you consider all of a non-heterosexual orientation as one homogeneous group.)

    Marriage is no bedrock for family building; so what do you think about all those (albeit a minority, I think) who don't want to ever get married when in a long-term relationship? Those who perhaps think marriage is like a shackle? Those who have been in a relationship for many, many years? Are the people there who are together not supposed to consider each other family?

    Oh, and for the matter of that last derogatory comment, no, no matter how obscene, can one fart little gay children out of their arse, as if the arse created them. Male homosexuality, for example, has been shown to be partially due to (presumably an allele) on two genes, and another factor for homosexuality has been shown to be due to epigenetics during foetal development (in the mother's womb). Epigenetics is the study of gene expression; the extent to which a gene is "on" or "off", changed by its environment, by the way.

    So in summary, there are genetic, and epigenetic factors during foetal development, to homosexuality.
    Homosexuality is also present in other animals, without human interference.
    All of this supports that it (homosexuality) is natural, as it occurs without human interference.

    Also, even if it was caused by socialisation, the picking up of norm by society, how'd that make it wrong? One should determine whether something is wrong by how it negatively affects all the parties involved, be it yourself, or other people.

    Note, I've added all this information because your stance to it is so predictable; you're so predictable, so predictable that I hope you never play chess, or play any other game against another person (of at least sub-par, or sub-average intelligence.).

    #Let'sCullStupidity2015
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
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    That post was good for exercising a muscle.

    People like him honestly baffle me; I understand one being ignorant on matters such as the benefits of marriage, such as the reduced taxes etc. but why would you stop marriage in this society anyway? There are plenty of people who are not religious, who get married, so that shouldn't really be a problem.

    I'm kinda glad that I came across his post, and he expressed his views, instead of foregoing them, because now he's been corrected, and I've been productive (even if he took little away from that.)(And that's why I kinda get pissed off if TSR quells debates, if you already didn't know.)

    I wish I can send him back to school. :sigh:
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    That post was good for exercising a muscle.

    People like him honestly baffle me; I understand one being ignorant on matters such as the benefits of marriage, such as the reduced taxes etc. but why would you stop marriage in this society anyway? There are plenty of people who are not religious, who get married, so that shouldn't really be a problem.

    I'm kinda glad that I came across his post, and he expressed his views, instead of foregoing them, because now he's been corrected, and I've been productive (even if he took little away from that.)(And that's why I kinda get pissed off if TSR quells debates, if you already didn't know.)

    I wish I can send him back to school. :sigh:
    The equal marriage debate is the one big debate of our time which has zero good arguments for one of the positions (hint: the homophobic side). There is not one decent argument - not one - for this bull**** position.

    Yeah, TSR is a little restrictive, especially when people report you for 'bullying' and 'offensiveness' and the mods fall over each other to give you a blue card but, hey, what can you do.

    I doubt any amount of schooling can correct his defects. His username is very interesting - Tyler Clementi was a gay teenager who committed suicide while at university a few years ago because his roommate secretly filmed him having sex with another man (or something like that) and then posted it online...
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    (Original post by TylerClementi)
    Exactly, does God punish them? No. No penetration of a Mans Penis=No Sacred Act=No Marriage. The whole 'Blood Covenant' thing is a type & Shadow Col 2:17. When God designed this system it was meant for the Adamic race of long lived humans that lived up until the time of Noah. They did not break or accumulate injury as easily as we did so this was practical for them even if impossible for us. Its the spiritual implication that is the same for us - not the physical. Your bf can masturbate your vagina for you as nothing more than a sexual favour for you with no fear of having 'married' you or doing anything unclean; even with his mouth. Its not spiritually binding, in the eyes of God its a 'nothing'.
    Well I do not agree with this as another Christian who reads the bible.
    But I respect your views . I think sex and foreplay play in part. Gay, lesbian couples do not exactly have intercourse like heterosexual couples do but as someone else stated, does this make them virgins? Also it would be hypocritical for a Christian to tell others not to have sexual relations outside of marriage yet behind close doors do the complete opposite. What you had stated is still sexual. I always ask myself this question, would Jesus do so and so? Would he approve or could I imagine him doing something? I know that I am not always correct however If an act did not agree with his teachings, I know it is not right.
    I disagree with that belief about penetration because it does not seem biblical but like I had said, we all have different interpretations and if this is what you believe I respect that. It is something I would need to pray about.
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    (Original post by Zarek)
    So, perhaps I may have been a touch intolerant of your extremely long and sanctimonious post. But regarding OP she did ask for advice so I though it reasonable to share my alternative perspective. I note you left out my point that she might be able to find someone like minded.

    As to chastity before marriage, everyone right and prerogative to do what they want with their body. I just worry about religious folk of all types who propose this as a moral issue for others. And meanwhile some pretty questionable and intolerant behaviours are sometimes going on in their lives.
    I stressed on that comment because it supported my statements about the attitude of atheists on this thread. People can still see your original post so do not worry.
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    (Original post by TylerClementi)
    Gay fool

    Marriage is a bedrock for family building, do you fart little gay children out of your arse?
    Are you ****ing kidding me?
    You're disgusting; a despicable excuse for a human being.
    How ****ing dare you take the piss by using that as a user name? I doubt it's a coincidence, considering no one came up with the name Tyler Clementi on FaceBook, and no one even came up with that surname!
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    P.S. Are you SpringBreaker? He was the only user to have this level of obsession with him, and you only popped up recently (though his banning date and your join date don't exactly coincide, but perhaps he had a temporary ban.)
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    any higher thinking would be unavailable to you.:007:
    Why bother, your intellect wasn't up for an argument

    ...your meaningless, dysfunctional existence.
    Typical sissy, hissy, whingy, whiny boy. You claim you "ignored that part" for being irrelevant to your [uninvited] opinion but when I ignore your meaningless drivel you start throwing wobblies.

    Now why dont you un-invite yourself from existence.
    You sad, pathetic, despicable runt of a human being. That's if the term 'human' can even be applied to an intellectually crippled whelp of a creature such as yourself.

    ...severely genetically undermined in that horrible psychological disfigurement you try to justify),

    ... still had the decency to to end his existence and spare us the loathsome miss-occurrence of his self upon society.

    ...sub-intellectual regurgitation...

    ...your puny mind

    ... foolishly oversaw on your crippled wits. ...

    And the inferior, like you do not pass on your genes. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
    Quoted all from him, directed at me, in the past.
    Now directed at you.

    Hydeman I noticed the thing about his user name probably about 5 minutes before your post.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Dat quote... It's like he went mad with a thesaurus. xD
    I edited out all the parts counter-productive.
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    (Original post by Hydeman)
    Dat quote... It's like he went mad with a thesaurus. xD
    Also, I do applaud him there, with those insults.
    I was both impressed and deeply offended at the same time, which is an achievement.
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    Honourable mention: "That's if the term 'human' can even be applied to an intellectually crippled whelp of a creature such as yourself."
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    At OP, sorry for digressing; I just can't stand homophobia, which it is.
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    Also, I do applaud him there, with those insults.
    I was both impressed and deeply offended at the same time, which is an achievement.
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    Honourable mention: "That's if the term 'human' can even be applied to an intellectually crippled whelp of a creature such as yourself."
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    At OP, sorry for digressing; I just can't stand homophobia, which it is.
    They're inventive, that's for sure. But one then has to question how much time he spends on the Internet coming up with the perfect insults and whether anybody who spends a lot of time doing so (i.e. a keyboard warrior) actually deserves any respect. xD

    Yeah, the thread has digressed quite a bit, mainly due to the victim complex of some of the Christians here. One person even called it a 'Christian thread' as if it's some sort of club where non-Christians must sit quietly in the corner, heads hanging in shame.
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    (Original post by TylerClementi)
    Ohh Mr Stuart, stalking me up on the internet already - you must be desperate for some bum!
    So do you confirm it?
    By the way, I will reply to your other response, after I have finished replying to another thread.
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    So do you confirm it?
    By the way, I will reply to your other response, after I have finished replying to another thread.
    Stop hijacking this thread, why you gays want to make everything about you? you got spun now let it go!
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    (Original post by TylerClementi)
    Ohh Mr Stuart, stalking me up on the internet already - you must be desperate for some bum!
    For yours, of course; I'd like to lull you into our ways of hedonism and debauchery. :giggle:
    I'd dominate you, and you'd be coming back for more, begging.

    You still have failed to address my initial points about the benefits of marriage, you fail to say whether you agree, whether you disagree, and if so why.

    (Original post by TylerClementi)
    Stop hijacking this thread, why you gays want to make everything about you? you got spun now let it go!
    Because I'm just so fabulous!!! Don't be a fool; you have yet to address about every point I have made.
    Post #1 to review again.
    Post #2... *long-suffering sigh*

    Y'know, if you fail to address these, I'd know I've won this, won our little bout of something, perhaps our feud, our war.
    I'd know forever more that my arguments were superior.
    Say for each and every one (or at least most will suffice) why my points don't take precedence when considering one's morals.

    If I lose, I'm the runt, if you lose, you're the runt. Can you really let this down and destroy your dignity? I hope not, because I hope for you to be ripped apart, again and again, thrice at least.

    So don't ignore it, don't wade through the posts, pick and choosing what to reply to, stand your ground; take a stand.

    And, although I know you wouldn't care, if you fail to reply, I'd lose my last bit of respect for you (if I had any), as a human being. I'd lose that last bit I apply to all beings, and consider you forever more, the **** under my shoe, from the carcass of a runt.

    P.S. You're still a vile thing for using that user name. This part has been added for other people to see one of the reasons why my post is justified. Put 2 and 2 together.
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    I don't battle with the urge to have premarital sex but I do struggle with other issues.
    It is a daily struggle but you have to remember that you're not doing it on your own. God is right there with you all you have to do is ask.
    Whenever I feel like I might sin I recite this personalised prayer and I know that as long as I say the words every thing will be okay.
    Stay strong
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    (Original post by XcitingStuart)
    For yours, of course; I'd like to lull you into our ways of hedonism and debauchery. :giggle:
    I'd dominate you, and you'd be coming back for more, begging.

    You still have failed to address my initial points about the benefits of marriage, you fail to say whether you agree, whether you disagree, and if so why.

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    I sincerely apologise for this kind of behaviour on his behalf. I am sure you know this already but you do not deserve these insults. This is why gay and lesbian men/women stay away from the church and Christianity because of things like this. I understand that the bible speaks against homosexuality however I have always told my Christian friends even if you disagree and do not accept something, be polite and loving. TylerClementi this attitude of shaming people is wrong. All these insults you have been throwing at him, I am totally against. Jesus was never the accuser but a friend, brother to all including sinners and we are all sinners, even those who say they are Christians. Though he disagreed with many things, he would never speak to any one in this way, even when he was the only human being without sin on this planet. He was always humble and understanding- as followers of Christ, this should be our approach to everyone also.

    To XcitingStuart, I know this may sound all preachy and I know you may not believe in all I have stated but even with the things the bible says about homosexuality, I really do believe God loves you. And because he loves you just as he loves everyone else, for Tyler to speak to you so degradingly as if you're not even a human being shocks me, especially because this person identifies themselves as a Christian.

    To my fellow Christians, please speak to everyone with love and not hate even when you disagree with something, have some respect. <3
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    While I don't necessarily agree with your beliefs, you shouldn't change your opinion or your stance for anyone else. I, too, agree on the basis that virginity is a social construct, but if you want to wait, you can wait. If you suddenly decide not to, that's okay. I'd say ignore your friends/peers because they're obviously a bunch of asswipes, and surround yourself with others. Find a boyfriend with the same ideals. Don't give two damns what anyone thinks. When people see you doubting yourself, they'll poke at you further. If you hold on to your beliefs tightly and let no one give you ****, they'll stop after a while. Just stay strong.
 
 
 
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