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    (Original post by Danny the Geezer)
    disgusting...but when you're from a culture where multiple wives is the norm I guess gang-rape seems logical.
    I'm not so sure polygamy is the cause
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    (Original post by AlwaysWatching)
    it could be a factor or all three points?
    I think all three.
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    (Original post by Danz123)
    I'm pretty sure that wasn't just a 'non-PC' thing to say, in fact it epitomised ******* talk. But really dude, 'nig nog'? :lolwut:
    I wondered who'd be the first to bite. Should have known it would be someone with a picture of a couple of ginger beers as an avatar.

    Do you have no sense of irony Danz? Nobody has used the work nig-nog since Alf Garnett or Rigsby. Should have been a clue. Never mind, hopefully you'll catch on once you develop beyond a Laurel and Hardy approach to comedy.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    I wondered who'd be the first to bite. Should have known it would be someone with a picture of a couple of ginger beers as an avatar.

    Do you have no sense of irony Danz? Nobody has used the work nig-nog since Alf Garnett or Rigsby. Should have been a clue. Never mind, hopefully you'll catch on once you develop beyond a Laurel and Hardy approach to comedy.
    If it was satire, then fair enough I apologise. However I took it as just you trying put your view in a jokey 'non-PC' way. I mean if it was actually funny...
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    (Original post by Danz123)
    Thus is what I hate when a story like this comes out: it brings forth the xenophobes who hate multiculturalism. The language used is just atrocious. You can tell from the pronouns used, "THEY raped OUR women." Or "ugh, these vile ASIAN men" "religion of peace my ass" "they're barbarians". Said people get SO angry because of the 'us vs. them' mentality they have, rather than because of the incident itself.

    If 15 white guys raped a white girl, noone would say culture is the problem. Noone would say 'Christianity' is the problem. Finally, if those guys were from some other European country (Poland for example) noone would say "go back to your own country."

    Their ethnicity or religion is not the problem. WHAT THEY DID, is the problem, and it's something ANY group of people can do, regardless of race, religion or anything else.
    That's all well a good to sayid there was little difference with the average demographic of a perpetrator and the average demographic of the population.

    Already posted this but

    With a significant proportion of those found guilty nationally of group CSE being from a Pakistani and/or Muslim heritage, relevant government departments should research why this is the case, in order to guide prevention strategies.

    Serious Case Review into Child Sexual Exploitation in Oxfordshire: from the experiences of Children A, B, C, D, E, and

    Multiculturalism isn't about declaring every culture is great and that attempted to critisise them are bad. It's about saying this culture has good points and it has bad points p, and our culture has good points and bad points, let's work to overcome the negatives and strengthen the positives.

    But for that to happen there needs to be recognition on both sides, otherwise nobody will work together to over come the problems. And with case involving CSE that is a damn tragedy because until the problem is combated people will continue to be victims.

    It's not an issue of race, it's an issue of culture , religion or background (which relates in part to the previous two but also includes other things involved in upbringing). Ultimately though the issue is undeniable and religious communities and more general ones need to work to see if something can be done to stop these crimes happening.


    In regards to your comment on white Christian perpetrators.

    Again race is irrelevant it would be culture for example there are cultures that our predominantly white in Britain that protect criminals of a similar sort, combatting it requires society as a whole and the cultures involved to accept that such an issue exists.

    Bringing in religion to it p, regardless of whether you think Islam is it self inherently sexist it h become clear that sexism is present through out Islamic institutions in Britain. Example would be shariah councils failing to aid women suffering from abuse p, in many cases actually encouraging dangerous situations for the victims and their children.

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    There are more worrying cases involving domestic violence and children. In Leeds, I met Sonia, an attractive woman in her thirties in a mini-dress and ankle boots. She was granted a civil divorce due to her husband’s extreme violence towards her and their children. He was only allowed indirect access to the children by the courts. But when she went to Leyton for a Sharia divorce, she was told she would have to give up her children to him.
    Sharia courts are not allowed to intervene in matters involving child custody, but Leyton’s website features Sharia rulings on children. One Islamic school of thought decrees a father can take custody of a boy at the age of seven and a girl as young as nine. “I could not bear the thought of such a violent person having my children,” Sonia told me. “What was even more shocking was when I explained to Leyton why he shouldn’t have access to the children. Their reaction was – well you can’t go against what Islam says.”
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    Both of them suggested she should ask if the violence was due to her own actions and she should strive to be a good wife in every way: cooking, cleaning and looking after her appearance.



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    Sharia councils in other parts of Britain have also meddled in legal issues that should be matters for the UK courts. In Dewsbury, west Yorkshire, an old pub, once the White Hart Inn, is now a Sharia council. Ayesha, a thin and haunted-looking woman in traditional dress and a headscarf told me her husband, who hit her even when she was pregnant, had been imprisoned for his violent behaviour. She and her children had injunctions against him, and yet when she went to Dewsbury Sharia Council for a divorce, they still wanted the couple to meet for mediation.
    “I said, I can’t do that as he isn’t even allowed near my house because I’m frightened and can’t face him,” says Ayesha, “but they didn’t take any notice.”
    Eventually, when a barrister specialising in family law became involved, Dewsbury agreed to see Ayesha without her husband – but she still had to face five men alone without legal representation. It took her two years to get a divorce; meanwhile, her husband had already moved to Pakistan and married again.



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    Across the country where there are large Muslim communities, there are now Sharia councils. Some seem to discriminate against women in different ways. Women are required to produce two male witnesses, and it costs a woman at least £400 to get an Islamic divorce while a man can pay nothing. Under Sharia law, a woman must hand over all of her dowry before a divorce can be granted. Sharia marriage is not recognised under UK law, so women are not automatically entitled to half the house or financial assets when it comes to a divorce.
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    (Original post by Danz123)
    If it was satire, then fair enough I apologise. However I took it as just you trying put your view in a jokey 'non-PC' way. I mean if it was actually funny...
    Humor is a subjective thing isn't it?
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    (Original post by Danz123)
    If it was satire, then fair enough I apologise. However I took it as just you trying put your view in a jokey 'non-PC' way. I mean if it was actually funny...
    Why can't we be non-PC ?
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    (Original post by garfeeled)
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    Sharia councils in other parts of Britain have also meddled in legal issues that should be matters for the UK courts. In Dewsbury, west Yorkshire, an old pub, once the White Hart Inn, is now a Sharia council. Ayesha, a thin and haunted-looking woman in traditional dress and a headscarf told me her husband, who hit her even when she was pregnant, had been imprisoned for his violent behaviour. She and her children had injunctions against him, and yet when she went to Dewsbury Sharia Council for a divorce, they still wanted the couple to meet for mediation.
    “I said, I can’t do that as he isn’t even allowed near my house because I’m frightened and can’t face him,” says Ayesha, “but they didn’t take any notice.”
    Eventually, when a barrister specialising in family law became involved, Dewsbury agreed to see Ayesha without her husband – but she still had to face five men alone without legal representation. It took her two years to get a divorce; meanwhile, her husband had already moved to Pakistan and married again.
    Why would anyone name their child any variant of Aisha? It's kind of tempting fate...
 
 
 
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