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    (Original post by TuppenceB)
    That's why I said almost single handedly, ok? Who cares about the tiny insignificant details here? It's a simple question we're bothered about - stay or leave. And everyone is entitled to their opinion.
    This post reads like satire. Almost single handedly except almost every other first world country in the world? You can't be serious.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    No grasp of history or economics.

    No surprise that you are anti EU.
    You got me there . But everyone's got an opinion, even if they haven't studied those subjects, right? It's not like I'm trying to get anyone else to be anti EU, just answering the question in the thread.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    This post reads like satire. Almost single handedly except almost every other first world country in the world? You can't be serious.
    Oh well
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    (Original post by Josb)

    As a firm Paneuropean, I say that the EU has failed and it's just a matter of time before we witness its disintegration. Creating a common market and currency without a government, and open borders without federal police, customs and coast guards, was foolish.

    That doesn't automatically mean it is right to leave. The worker waiting for a redundancy payoff, the manager hoping to do an MBO, the employee with nowhere better to go, all remain with a company even though they know it is going bust.



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    (Original post by TuppenceB)
    That's why I said almost single handedly, ok? Who cares about the tiny insignificant details here? It's a simple question we're bothered about - stay or leave. And everyone is.
    You are dead right, David Beckham used to almost single handedly play against other football teams with the tiny insignificant detail there were another 10 team members as well.

    I also almost single handedly gave birth to my kids with the tiny insignificant detail my wife was there too.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    For the same reason the first and second largest economies don't have one.

    It's not that hard to understand.
    Err TTIP


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    (Original post by Maker)
    The British economy is not a single block. Britain imports a lot of cars from Europe so it has a bit of sway with European car makers but does not import a lot of tequila. So if it wants a trade deal with Mexico, the Mexicans can see export to Britain is small and does not have a lot of leverage.
    Yea you need to read the post again


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    (Original post by paul514)
    Please tell me why the 5th soon to be 4th largest economy in the world, the eu's biggest export market with an 80 billion a year trade deficit with the Eu can't get a trade deal but Mexico can lol


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    Did you even read what he said before posting this?

    He literally said the UK does not need a deal at all, hence it doesn't care what the Eastern European countries think. This is completely different to your point.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    You are dead right, David Beckham used to almost single handedly play against other football teams with the tiny insignificant detail there were another 10 team members as well.

    I also almost single handedly gave birth to my kids with the tiny insignificant detail my wife was there too.
    No need to argue, I don't get to vote till I'm 18 anyway so...I'll take your word for it .
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    We are capable of standing on our own two feet
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    (Original post by TuppenceB)
    No need to argue, I don't get to vote till I'm 18 anyway so...I'll take your word for it .
    Don't worry all the 'stay' crowd can do, it seems, is launch personal attacks.

    They could of course demonstrate to us the benefits of staying in but as they can't they'll just revert to usual form.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    Leave

    We are capable of standing on our own two feet
    That doesn't mean we wouldn't do better together.

    This macho nationalism *******s needs to stop.

    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    Don't worry all the 'stay' crowd can do, it seems, is launch personal attacks.

    They could of course demonstrate to us the benefits of staying in but as they can't they'll just revert to usual form.
    It's been demonstrated over and over, but it's just met with rambling about "sovereignty", "democracy" and "Eastern Europeans are taking our jobs".

    As for personal attacks, there were none made. I just pointed out that it's completely wrong to say that Britain won "singlehandedly". Russia lost far, far more soldiers, the US spent more money, it's just outright wrong.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    Don't worry all the 'stay' crowd can do, it seems, is launch personal attacks.

    They could of course demonstrate to us the benefits of staying in but as they can't they'll just revert to usual form.
    So true. Thanks
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    It's been demonstrated over and over, but it's just met with rambling about "sovereignty", "democracy" and "Eastern Europeans are taking our jobs".
    Really?
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    Stay. EU immigration is unequivocally good for the UK. Leaving the EEA would be unequivocally bad for our economy.

    The people wanting to leave are mostly disgruntled nationalists with power fantasies and delusions. They think we'll leave the EU and suddenly be a world superpower. They think immigrants are taking their jobs, when really they just can't get jobs because they're stupid. They think Britain would still be an Empire if we hadn't joined the EU. It's all a bit pathetic really. We have a representative democracy precisely to prevent issues like this - uninformed masses making decisions they can't understand the implications of. We shouldn't even be having a referendum.
    I am not actually sure whether to stay or leave, but it's people like you that irritate me, spreading stereotypes that aren't always true because someone has a view that is different to your own.
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    (Original post by Xysoo)
    Lol this is a perfect example.

    Most of the people saying leave are people who have very little understanding of economics and the significant negative impact leaving would have on the UK, and are basically just racist/xenophobes who dont want to see any more foreigners in the country, so they're voting to leave.



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    So, basically everybody that doesn't agree with you is a thick racist then.
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    I'd vote to leave.
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    I honestly cannot believe some people truly think that our interests will be served within this crumbling trade bloc/political union. it is common economic knowledge that the EU is faring terribly based on the trends in its performance. long term, this can only mean that the EU is going to act as an anchor to our economic potential. the answer is free trade and economic liberalisation worldwide, but people have no idea that the EU imposes tariffs and protectionism *everywhere* other than within europe itself! therefore, the EU is continentalist, not internationalist - the EU is stuck in the past. we need to trade openly with the entire world, not just ourselves.
 
 
 
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