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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I'm not denying that overall he was centrist; I'm simply stating that on social policy, he most definitely was far-right.
    Which has nothing at all to do with the left-right spectrum
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Well my perception was there were no far right members in the party apart from me ......would you say your as right wing as me ?
    Wait weren't you the one a few days ago who was decrying the fact that the rich don't pay more tax and complaining at the tories for it?
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Hitler was not a socialist but he did use lots of Keynesian policies to control unemployment, inflation, and some policies were in the socialist spectrum, for instance the Volkswagen car.
    That's where I'm going wrong then ...not totally a socialist but implemented a few socialist ideas ?
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I'm not denying that overall he was centrist; I'm simply stating that on social policy, he most definitely was far-right.
    Social policy, yes.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    That's where I'm going wrong then ...not totally a socialist but implemented a few socialist ideas ?
    I guess UKIP and the Tories are socialists then.
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    The Nazi Party were national socialists by name if I am correct, but Hitler wasn't a socialist by any means
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    The Nazi Party were national socialists by name if I am correct, but Hitler wasn't a socialist by any means
    Was Saddam Hussein?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Last I checked the monarchy de facto self funded, or is that effective 85% tax rate that is written into law all in my imagination?
    Technically she's tax exempt, but voluntarily pays tax instead it seems.

    That said though, would be nice if all of us also had a rule whereby we always earned more in revenue than the previous year.

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    (Original post by banterboy)
    Wait weren't you the one a few days ago who was decrying the fact that the rich don't pay more tax and complaining at the tories for it?
    I said that the rich could pay another 2-3% however i doubt that will happen this is quite a fast way increase revenue however in better economic times a flat rate of tax could happen as the government have increased revenue from other sources / other taxes
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are you going to say anything correct today? You might want to take another look at Nazi economic policy

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    Autarky is pretty socialist

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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Technically she's tax exempt, but voluntarily pays tax instead it seems.

    That said though, would be nice if all of us also had a rule whereby we always earned more in revenue than the previous year.

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    It's a de facto 85% rate, Charles chooses to pay income tax, the Queen has no choice in the matter, 100% of Royal Estate revenues go to the treasury instead of her maj and two years later they get 15% back, self funded with an 85% tax rate.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I guess UKIP and the Tories are socialists then.
    when did ukip have socialist inspired ideas like big state , nationisation
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    That's where I'm going wrong then ...not totally a socialist but implemented a few socialist ideas ?
    Yes, Hitler set up a scheme where workers paid a small percentage of the salaries to buy a people's car at the end which was never received when WWII started; there was a people's strength through joy scheme where employees who worked hard were rewarded by trips to the theatre, the beach, or a holiday; early on there was a people's trade union tightly controlled by the party, but it achieved its aim by providing working with the goods needed to survive that workers had not had before the Nazi rise; a people's investment scheme gave large lump sums of money to women who had children, the lump sums increased for each child a woman had, and women with more than eight children were rewarded with a solid gold medal; a people's trade union was set up for teachers; and the girls were pushed to join the League of German Maidens to learn how to be a good wife, the boys were pushed to join Hitler Youth.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    when did ukip have socialist inspired ideas like big state , nationisation
    Defend minimum wage
    oppose ZHCs
    Only Labour supporters are bigger supporters of nationalised railways and utilities
    Odd income tax arrangements, introducing a 30% tax rate
    More NHS funding
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Yes, Hitler set up a scheme where workers paid a small percentage of the salaries to buy a people's car at the end which was never received when WWII started; there was a people's strength through joy scheme where employees who worked hard were rewarded by trips to the theatre, the beach, or a holiday; early on there was a people's trade union tightly controlled by the party, but it achieved its aim by providing working with the goods needed to survive that workers had not had before the Nazi rise; a people's investment scheme gave large lump sums of money to women who had children, the lump sums increased for each child a woman had, and women with more than eight children were rewarded with a solid gold medal; a people's trade union was set up for teachers; and the girls were pushed to join the League of German Maidens to learn how to be a good wife, the boys were pushed to join Hitler Youth.

    Ah Yes , I remember this for GCSE History! . This is what I based my assumptions that Hilter was a socialist however I was wrong .
    However the stigma that nazis are right wing remains ...I think people get the terms " Authoritian " and Right Winger confused
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Ah Yes , I remember this for GCSE History! . This is what I based my assumptions that Hilter was a socialist however I was wrong .
    However the stigma that nazis are right wing remains ...I think people get the terms " Authoritian " and Right Winger confused
    Clearly you included.
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    I've just noticed how disgustingly socialist Sim City is.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Defend minimum wage
    oppose ZHCs
    Only Labour supporters are bigger supporters of nationalised railways and utilities
    Odd income tax arrangements, introducing a 30% tax rate
    More NHS funding

    But the means of production are private not state controlled ?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    Ah Yes , I remember this for GCSE History! . This is what I based my assumptions that Hilter was a socialist however I was wrong .
    However the stigma that nazis are right wing remains ...I think people get the terms " Authoritian " and Right Winger confused
    There were lots of socialist elements to the government's policy which would not seem out of place in some countries today, the whole concept of Nazism was volksgemeinschaft, or people's community, the aims of removing class, international solidarity, and seeking national unification where all Germans were seen as national comrades is shared with Marxist socialism. Stating Hitler was not a socialist is not accurate, Hitler was a socialist but not in the context of what socialism is widely taken to mean today.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    There were lots of socialist elements to the government's policy which would not seem out of place in some countries today, the whole concept of Nazism was volksgemeinschaft, or people's community, the aims of removing class, international solidarity, and seeking national unification where all Germans were seen as national comrades is shared with Marxist socialism. Stating Hitler was not a socialist is not accurate, Hitler was a socialist but not in the context of what socialism is widely taken to mean today.
    As a socialist, this is unfortunate, but you cannot deny facts so hear, hear.
 
 
 
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