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    (Original post by PrincePaul657777)
    What I said is true and it's most likely true for you to.
    I'm harassed by black racists all the time simply because I'm white. I mentioned this already in this thread. Please take the time to research these things before making such ignorant assertions.

    Like I said previously, it's a rough area. I doubt the majority of black people are like this just as the majority of white people aren't the racists you people make them out to be.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    I'm not saying that no white people are racist, what I'm saying is that overall white people's society is actually the most tolerant of other cultures. I'm also pointing out that this "white people are all racists" hype has extremely bad double standards. Despite us having the most tolerant society and being the first to abolish slavery, we're the one's who're receiving the most racism from other ethnicities. Some Islamic societies still endorse slavery and was also built off of slavery (just as ours was partly built off of it) but because we're white, we're apparently the bad guys.

    How can anyone justify pointing fingers at us (who were the first to abolish slavery AND comprise the society that is the most tolerant of other cultures) and being racist towards us when we're the people who're working alongside them to eradicate racism?! It's absurd!
    What a ridiculous and fallacious claim

    All you seem to do is paint yourself as victim and face injustice when much of the issues were perpetrated by white people historically.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    I have been attacked by a black person.

    Not that it matters in the slightest which race your attacker is. I beat them up just the same
    OK. Well - Let's just say you're not lying and you're telling the truth. How severe was that attack ? When was that attack ? Why was that attack ?
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    (Original post by PrincePaul657777)
    OK. Well - Let's just say you're not lying and you're telling the truth. How severe was that attack ? When was that attack ? Why was that attack ?
    Why does that matter? No it wasn't remotely racially orientated if that's what you want to know.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    I'm harassed by black racists all the time simply because I'm white. I mentioned this already in this thread. Please take the time to research these things before making such ignorant assertions.

    Like I said previously, it's a rough area. I doubt the majority of black people are like this just as the majority of white people aren't the racists you people make them out to be.
    OK. Again. Let's just say you are not lying.

    What do you mean by harassment ? Name calling ? Are these guys putting you in hospital ? Why are they harassing you in the first place ?
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    What a ridiculous and fallacious claim

    All you seem to do is paint yourself as victim and face injustice when much of the issues were perpetrated by white people historically.
    I mean, you can hardly suggest we don't have the most tolerant immigration policies in the history of the world.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    What a ridiculous and fallacious claim

    All you seem to do is paint yourself as victim and face injustice when much of the issues were perpetrated by white people historically.
    Not at all. Go and read some history books before you go pinning the entirety of the blame for slavery on white people. The majority of that blame lies on the Arabs, who enslaved both Europeans and Africans for centuries. Compared to the Arab slave trade, the American one is insignificant in size. But obviously you won't do that, you'll just keep on perpetuating the myth that white people are all racists because of a slave trade that white people today have nothing to do with.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    Why does that matter? No it wasn't remotely racially orientated if that's what you want to know.
    You just said you was attacked by a black person. Now you could have been lying. But you say it was not racially motivated. I mean, if you want to lie, to try and score some cheap point, then that's on you.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Not at all. Go and read some history books before you go pinning the entirety of the blame for slavery on white people. The majority of that blame lies on the Arabs, who enslaved both Europeans and Africans for centuries. Compared to the Arab slave trade, the American one is insignificant in size. But obviously you won't do that, you'll just keep on perpetuating the myth that white people are all racists because of a slave trade that white people today have nothing to do with.
    It's irrelevant that Arabs and etc did it. its like saying 'the arabs did it why cant we!'

    White people did it too, that is the point.
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    (Original post by PrincePaul657777)
    OK. Again. Let's just say you are not lying.

    What do you mean by harassment ? Name calling ? Are these guys putting you in hospital ? Why are they harassing you in the first place ?
    Racial slurs mostly, though like I said it's a rough area and I've seen them trying to start fights with white guys as well. It's literally black gangs vs gangs of all races. How should I know why they do it though? I don't get involved in that kind of thing, I just keep walking.
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    (Original post by PrincePaul657777)
    You just said you was attacked by a black person. Now you could have been lying. But you say it was not racially motivated. I mean, if you want to lie, to try and score some cheap point, then that's on you.
    Not lying. This whole strand of discussion has no bearing on the issues at hand though.

    You said (oddly) that i hadn't been attacked by a black person. So i said i had, because i have.
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    White lives matter Be proud of being white
    Black lives matter be proud of being black
    Any lives matter be proud of coming from where you did
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    I mean, you can hardly suggest we don't have the most tolerant immigration policies in the history of the world.
    Are you deliberately being stupid?
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    It's irrelevant that Arabs and etc did it. its like saying 'the arabs did it why cant we!'

    White people did it too, that is the point.
    And my point is that how is it any different? Both were slave trades, yet only white people get slander because of it whereas the Arabs (who's was far worse) get left alone.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Not at all. Go and read some history books before you go pinning the entirety of the blame for slavery on white people. The majority of that blame lies on the Arabs, who enslaved both Europeans and Africans for centuries. Compared to the Arab slave trade, the American one is insignificant in size. But obviously you won't do that, you'll just keep on perpetuating the myth that white people are all racists because of a slave trade that white people today have nothing to do with.
    You're moral reasoning is broken.

    If you disagree, then when your woman catches you with another woman all you have to do is say this:

    “I know what I did was wrong, but my friend Joe has been cheating on his wife WAY LONGER than me.

    And he beats her too. Please keep that in mind!”

    And if she continues to be angry at you, say this: “Why are you so angry at me but not at my friend? I mean, he is way worse than me! You are being unfair.”

    I know no one who has been affected by the Arab slave trade nor do I live in a country that has been shaped and continues to be shaped by that trade. That is quite untrue about the Atlantic slave trade.
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    (Original post by darkvibes)
    Are you deliberately being stupid?
    There might be a few as good as our, but do non white countries have open door policies like we do?
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    And my point is that how is it any different? Both were slave trades, yet only white people get slander because of it whereas the Arabs (who's was far worse) get left alone.
    The contexts are totally different here. African Americans only exist as a demographic because their ancestors were brought over as slaves based purely on the belief that black people are inferior - a belief that continued to stain the lawbooks way past the abolition of slavery and into living memory, and whose effects are still felt today. The racial aspect was unique to the African slave trade, and is the reason it is still relevant to discussions about present day race relations. The Arabs took whites as slaves due to religious and geographical reasons, not for racial reasons, so I don't really see how it fits into the discussion.

    Copied and pasted what is already on this thread. Don't be silly, the arabs didnt do it on race, the whites did.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    Actually there's a whole branch of history called counter factual history. And historians dealing purely descriptively with what happened don't make claims like "this is the only way such and such state of affairs would have occurred given x other circumstances" like you were.

    Other than that..I can't even disagree with those obvious statements. But they don't justify the conclusion that talking about white lives shouldn't be done.

    Blacks don't have it bad as the media would have you believe. There is a lot of talk about the police just going around shooting blacks, but blacks commit 4x the violent crime (the type you'd think you'd get shot for) than whites, yet whites get shot Twice as much as every other race combined. I just can't reconcile that fact the the media's narrative. It stands against reason surely.

    And if i were to bring this up, I'd get "YOU R A WHITE MALE OPPRESSING ME WITH UR METANARRATIVE OVER MINE< FACTS ARE A WHITE MALE CONTRUCTIONS OPPRESSOR".

    And that's from the university professors.
    Counterfactual history is entertainment for the masses, not a serious academic pursuit. You can argue that white people face their own issues if you want, but the Arabic slave trade isn't one of them, so when people talk about the historical effects the Atlantic slave trade has had on modern day African Americans, it's ignorant nonsense to bring it up as if to say 'look, it happened to us too!'. Black people in America face their own unique issues; BLM is them doing something about it.
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    (Original post by banterboy)
    Not lying. This whole strand of discussion has no bearing on the issues at hand though.

    You said (oddly) that i hadn't been attacked by a black person. So i said i had, because i have.
    OK. Well if you're not lying. Then fair enough. So what happened to the attacker ? Because a black man attacking a white person is just act 1. What was act 2 ?
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    (Original post by PrincePaul657777)
    You're moral reasoning is broken.

    If you disagree, then when your woman catches you with another woman all you have to do is say this:

    “I know what I did was wrong, but my friend Joe has been cheating on his wife WAY LONGER than me.

    And he beats her too. Please keep that in mind!”

    And if she continues to be angry at you, say this: “Why are you so angry at me but not at my friend? I mean, he is way worse than me! You are being unfair.”

    I know no one who has been affected by the Arab slave trade nor do I live in a country that has been shaped and continues to be shaped by that trade. That is quite untrue about the Atlantic slave trade.
    This crying about slavery has to stop, it was a horrible thing yes, it was not just whites. Very very few people actually own slaves now and if they do in the west it is against the law, so stop blaming whites for what our ancestors did.

    We don't look at Germans and call them all part of the nazi regime because their ancestors might have been
 
 
 
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