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    (Original post by Dann.It)
    They're not 'taking' jobs as you say. They're just more qualified for the job, as opposed to the average British person. You think an employer should just employ you just because of the fact that you're British? Even though you're not qualified enough for the job, and thus unable to do it?
    This type of blanket statement is not necessarily correct, as it follows the same logic as the OP's claim.
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    (Original post by TheIr0nDuke)
    I assumed he was talking about Asian Muslim men.

    Thanks for the heads up. I literally had no clue that Islam is a religion.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Now then, lets think about this logically. You're busy hating on white people because of the British empire, you claim that we're all lazy and "oppressive" because of it. So lets look at some other countries.
    Other countries are irrelevant smh
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    This type of blanket statement is not necessarily correct, as it follows the same logic as the OP's claim.
    It is a case of hiring imported cheap labour with the same skills as a uk worker but costing less wages to hire them. You can change the skill level to whichever degree you want and this still applies, obvious isnt it?
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    (Original post by bakedbeans247)
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    Considering that the vast majority of Muslims in the UK are of asian ethnicity it's a reasonable assumption to make.

    Replying with reaction pics stopped being funny about 3 years ago, by the way.
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    A lorry driver in the UK used to earn £14 an hour ibefore 2004, and now after the mass migration of people from Eastern Europe that person now earns £7 an hour. The working class people have a right to be angry as their wages has been cut as result of an open border creating more comptetion for people and giving the multinational/corporates fat cats more profit from exploiting the common Man
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    A lorry driver in the UK used to earn £14 an hour ibefore 2004, and now after the mass migration of people from Eastern Europe that person now earns £7 an hour. The working class people have a right to be angry as their wages has been cut as result of an open border creating more comptetion for people and giving the multinational/corporates fat cats more profit from exploiting the common Man
    Are the drivers all under 25?

    Why should lower wages be bad, we all benefit from lower costs. If the drivers' wages were higher, we all have to pay more for our shopping.
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    A lorry driver in the UK used to earn £14 an hour ibefore 2004, and now after the mass migration of people from Eastern Europe that person now earns £7 an hour. The working class people have a right to be angry as their wages has been cut as result of an open border creating more comptetion for people and giving the multinational/corporates fat cats more profit from exploiting the common Man
    So people are willing to do the exact same job for less and you're upset about that? Maybe lorry drivers were overpaid.
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    A lorry driver in the UK used to earn £14 an hour ibefore 2004, and now after the mass migration of people from Eastern Europe that person now earns £7 an hour. The working class people have a right to be angry as their wages has been cut as result of an open border creating more comptetion for people and giving the multinational/corporates fat cats more profit from exploiting the common Man
    £14 an hour for lorry drivers sounds overpaid tbh. It's higher than the hourly wages for Mechanical Engineers (Median £10.00, Range £6.44 - £22.11) and Aerospace Engineers (Median £13.00, Range £6.70 - £35.87).
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    So people are willing to do the exact same job for less and you're upset about that? Maybe lorry drivers were overpaid.
    So who are the winners here? Who has gained and who has lost?
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    A lorry driver in the UK used to earn £14 an hour ibefore 2004, and now after the mass migration of people from Eastern Europe that person now earns £7 an hour. The working class people have a right to be angry as their wages has been cut as result of an open border creating more comptetion for people and giving the multinational/corporates fat cats more profit from exploiting the common Man
    Well said please God why can there not be more like you who see the real motives behind EU immigration from the point of view of those who control (or rather don't control) it, politicians on behalf of their party paymasters the multinational companies in search of ever increasing profits out of a working mans wage packet.
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    So who are the winners here? Who has gained and who has lost?
    Society, because businesses pay less to transport their goods and customers get their goods cheaper.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    So people are willing to do the exact same job for less and you're upset about that? Maybe lorry drivers were overpaid.
    What a silly thing to say....you do realize that when there is an oversupply of labor from the continent companies can get away with paying a very low wage...and dish out ZHC...
    Companies make £££££ profit as a result of exploiting people!
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    (Original post by Comedy_Gold)
    Well said please God can there not be more like you who see the real motives behind EU immigration from the point of view of those who control (or rather don't control) it, politicians on behalf of their party paymasters the multinational companies in search of ever increasing profits out of a working mans wage packet.
    The government are so desperate to brain wash the masses it's why they've spent millions printing out pro EU propaganda.
    The companies and tax dodgers are lobbying the government and scaring the general public into leaving if people vote out. Haha the Corporate fat cats/Bankers are so desperate it's why they love mass migration 300,000+ people are arriving here every year cutting wages for the working class people.
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    (Original post by _icecream)
    The government are so desperate to brain wash the masses it's why they've spent millions printing out pro EU propaganda.
    The companies and tax dodgers are lobbying the government and scaring the general public into leaving if people vote out. Haha the Corporate fat cats/Bankers are so desperate it's why they love mass migration 300,000+ people are arriving here every year cutting wages for the working class people.
    Can't believe I'm reading such sense I'm so used to people just not getting it!

    It is the young who will be affected the most working in the EU with their working lives to come and they are going to vote in and reap the 'rewards' of the working man unfortunately.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    EU migrants are unequivocally good for the UK. They're more educated and fill skilled jobs that the native population can't.

    Unemployment has been going down for a while. If you're getting outcompeted by people who don't even speak English as a first language, maybe you should've tried harder in school.
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    (Original post by Brillo100)
    Your argument is simply that one person from SA you know makes good money from being a dentist in Britain. (Good money is a relative thing and this example is anecdotal).

    The poster you replied to was simply using a dentistry example. The principle remains.

    The fact still remains that economics operates by supply and demand and that increasing the supply of Labour often decreases the wages and increases the unemployment rate.

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    In this case it decreases the rate of wage growth rather than decreases wages, just as it decreases the rate at which unemployment falls rather than causes unemployment.

    Immigration is not yet above the number of jobs created, hence demand for natives still exists.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    You are losing the argument if you have to attack the person.
    Im not attacking the person.. read on to see why I wanted to know young metro's profession
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    (Original post by Maker)
    I know a dentist from South Africa, he's pretty well off from drilling British teeth. The cheap dentist argument doesn't hold water because dentists in most parts of the world have to pay for their own expensive training and they need to earn that back by making lots of money.

    If lots of foreign dentists started working in the UK and saturate the market, their earnings will decrease to the point it would be better for them to stay at home or move elsewhere.

    You need a better argument.
    Its a hypothetical to try and help a poster emphasise better with people who's skill sets are being flooded. With regards to your point about "earnings will decrease to the point it would be better for them to stay at home" - For skilled labour that may be so, for Romanian strawberry pickers who earn 60p an hour back home... that would never be the case when its £7.20 minimum wage in the UK

    AND NOW YOU CAN SEE THE PROBLEM
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    (Original post by richard10012)
    I got a degree. I keep seeing people who came from other european countries who got degrees on linkedin getting jobs in the uk
    I feel like my original reply was too dismissive, and I apologise for that.

    It's a fair point that even graduates can struggle to get employed. But that's because degrees are common now. It's fairly normal to go to uni, and having a degree won't (and shouldn't) guarantee a job. There are a lot more factors that separate the great candidates from the good. People shouldn't be just going to uni and getting a degree, because that's the bare minimum now. People should aim for better universities, better degrees, and to better themselves outside of their degree too. Competition is good because it encourages this, and I don't think it's fair to stifle competition just because some people don't want to compete.
 
 
 
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